To think that people should be quiet in the quiet coach of the train?

[HighlandTERF]

I have autism. When traveling, I always pick the quiet coach to avoid getting overstimulated.

However, the quiet coach always seems to attract those that are performatively loud! Phone calls, music, and chit chat seem are drawn to it like a magnet! If you sit there and aren’t quiet, why are you there? There are seven other carriages where you can make as much noise as you like!

The quiet carriages I have been in recently have had signs about electronic rules, not about conversations. But given that anyone can be assigned a seat in the quiet coach without wanting to be there or knowing they’re there, the whole thing seems pointless. I’m sure I remember news articles about quiet coaches being scrapped for this reason a few years ago

No this was back in the days when they sold those crappy orange sponge headphones that you plugged in between the seats. I think they were as much speakers as they were headphones! It wasn’t loud at all, far quieter than people talking, but still too loud for the quiet carriage.

How do you make this happen?

If the conductor comes through you can report, but personally I don't often fancy a confrontation!

Yes, I avoid the quiet coach for this reason. It stresses me out no end when, inevitably, noisy selfish are sitting in it.

Ah, that makes sense!

If someone was making a noisy phone call in the designated quiet carriage I would have no qualms about asking them to quiet down.

Sometimes there are screens on the carriages saying next stops but mostly I now track the train I'm on with trainline app.

Not in London so tube announcements aren't really an issue for me - though I image if they were I'd notice everyone leaving and ask someone - but as I say not in London so talking to others at bus train stations and asking if they know more about transport isn't uncommon event.

Not being in London wasn't aware there were quiet tube carriages - must have missed them so far when we have visited.

I live in Gernany -I‘ve been told off in the past for having a lovely conversation in the quiet carriage. I hadn’t noticed where we were. Now I‘m careful, although it‘s difficult with deafish friends who tend to talk loudly. I also say to other people when they are annoying me. Normally it‘s loud mobile conversations. I‘ve been on a bus a couple of times when the driver objected to loud mobile conversations or people playing videos with the sound on.

All credit to you but not everyone is as willing to do that.

What is the point of a quiet carriage if everyone carries on as normal

It's never OK to have phone noise i.e. without headphones

I have come to the conclusion that the quiet coach might as well be called the noisy coach and the other coaches can be called the extra noisy coaches. The last time i was in the quiet coach people were still having loud phone conversations. I have got myself some noice cancelling headphones.

Not being in London wasn't aware there were quiet tube carriages - must have missed them so far when we have visited.

There aren’t. I wish there were!

Yes, but sometimes people come onto these threads & say they / their kids can’t use headphones for some reason.

So if there was one carriage where that was ok, they could all make a racket together & not bother anyone else.

And aeons before that, I don't recall any train carriage being particularly noisy, unless it was the last train on a Friday or Saturday night, or was carrying a load of football fans to or from a match (God help everyone else then). What's changed - are the acoustics in modern trains worse now?

People should respect it, but there are a lot of idiots around.🙄

More people have phones and it’s cheaper to use them

Yes, and they have microphones, so you don't have to yell, "HI, I'M ON THE TRAIN!" etc. into them, but a lot of people don't seem to have got that particular memo! 🤷‍♀️

Didn't know there was a Quiet Carriage.

I've noticed that the 'quiet carriage' seems to attract the people who are going to be shouting on their phones or watching YouTube videos with no headphones. That is why I now avoid the so called 'quiet carriage'.

I was in a quiet coach last week and two men got on and sat down and started having a conversation. I doubt they had any idea that they were in the quiet coach.

I am another one who actively avoids the quiet carriage now as I am so infuriated by people ignoring the rules I’d rather be in the other carriages and less irritated by their noise.

The ignorance of people these days is stunning.

Dare I say it, mothers of small children with tablets/musical toys/things to hit the table with are often the culprits in the quiet carriage. Before people jump in with "what they were assigned those seats?!" the train I get is 70% empty most journeys. So yes, I do switch carriages, but that's not the point.

I think some people assume quiet just means no phones or tablet noise but listening to loud conversations is just as bad

quiet not silent