To think millions of litres of fuel shouldn't be wasted on sending a rocket to the moon

[Viviennemary]

With this current fuel crisis it's total madness sending a rocket to the moon. What is the point. Nobody is even going to land on the moon. Doubt therei s any oil on the moon.

Compared to the millions of pointless journeys done in cars, I’ll take space travel

You use technology created as a direct result of space exploration every single day.

So not really pointless, is it.

Amen.

Like cows. The farty bastards.

All, no doubt, while going to cook their dinners made with foods farmed using technology, which could never be farmed in the quantities to feed them (or indeed grown in the country in which they live and transported to them) without technology.

Then will go to bed under blankets of duvets made using machines, in a bed made using machines, in a house built out of materials made in factories by machines, drinking and bathing in water filtered by machines, and posting about how they deplore it all on the internet using a machine. With their electric lights turned on, no doubt, now it’s getting dark.

All made using ENERGY, fuel. That the evil scientists have harnessed for them using their deplorable science, to give them this very privileged existence so that they aren’t living in a freezing cold cave with many of their children dying at less than a year old and their own life expectancy being 25.

It really is unfathomable that people do not realise how very lucky they are that scientists have saved them from the existence that humans used to have, and the fact that scientists are also our only hope for the future.

A good starting point to understand an overview of human history for a non-academic would be to read Yuval Noah Harari’s books. And maybe, if you want to understand something of scientific progress, have a look into Ray Kurzweil. I remember reading some of his books back in the 1990s when he was still being ridiculed, but now I believe he is finally being listened to and has even done some Ted Talks etc for people who find books too much of a challenge.

Let’s send all the nasty Nazis up in the shuttle & leave them on the dark side of the moon….
I’m thinking Trump & cronies, Putin, Orban, Erdogan, Rupert Lowe, Farage, Katie Hopkins, Musk... in fact I have a long list!!!

Obvs there will need to be several trips costing ££ billions but it will benefit the Earth in the long run.

I would also like to say in defence of @ViviennemaryI did assume the space mission used actual fuel…

Another one who thinks it is disgusting spending so much money on space travel when there are so many problems on Earth AND it is also hardly helpful to climate change as well.

Sigh. It’ll make bugger all difference to climate change.

Remind me how the hole in the ozone layer was found?

Why not google for all the day to day innovations/new products that have been discovered due to the space exploration research and development.

Of course it uses fuel. How else would it move?

It just doesn’t use the same fuel that you use in your car, unsurprisingly, given the physics involved and that your car needs enough energy to move along the Earth’s surface and a spacecraft needs sufficient fuel to be propelled off the Earth’s surface — counteracting the gravitational force of the Earth pulling it back down — and that the Artemis needs to travel almost 400,000km to the moon and back at a speed of 25,000km/ hr which I presume is a little further and faster than your daily commute.

I am honestly quite shocked at the comments on this thread. Of course most people aren’t scientists but everybody in the UK receives 12 years minimum of free state education including science as a regular core subject so how can it be possible that there are so many adults who don’t understand even the very basics, and who also feel that their opinions on the subject are well-informed enough that they should post about the topic on a public forum!? So that would indicate there must be a large proportion of the population who despite these 12 years of free teaching about these topics are even more clueless than this?!

I knew things were bad given the appalling excuse for “education” that I’ve seen at my children’s school, but the idiotic comments that have been written here today have been beyond shocking.

I can't tell if this is serious or not. But assuming it is, what do you truly understand about, I don't know... microbiology, or thermonuclear plastics, or gene therapy, or quantum physics, or engineering?
Just because you don't understand them (and I'm not saying I do - I'd be a very uninteresting guest at a party full of boffins), doesn't mean they don't have any value. You just don't understand what that is.

Why are you so concerned about the 0.01% of global emissions used for space exploration and advancing scientific knowledge, and why do you think this is unacceptable given that the technological advances that space exploration has provided have already saved orders of magnitude more of global emissions from being produced?

Well all those satellites are helping to monitor climate change. It's data from those that help prove that it's happening. They are also helping you communicate right now. You couldn't watch your tv tonight without items currently orbiting the earth. You wouldn't even know about the problems on earth without all the systems developed for and as a result of space exploration and technology.

Because there are too many problems in the world that should take priority. Simple as that.

The only space travel I am in favour of is that horrible cunt Elon Musk making up with Donald Trump and the two of them fucking off to Mars and never being able to come back.

The thing is, we could throw money at world poverty/famine/homelessness as we have in the past and it still wouldn’t solve the problems. That’s the sad part. There are too many greedy, corrupt people in the world (unfortunately most in positions of power).

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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Elon is awesome. He does renewable energy and space exploration. I'd rather have 1 Elon than a 1000 of you.

Many of the posters on here, myself included, aren't anti science. They just aren't interested in and can't see the benefit of space travel.

I have lived off grid. It's bloody hard work. I'm grateful for my washing machine and electric light at the flick of a switch now. It doesn't mean I think space travel is exciting or necessary.

It's one thing not knowing much about space exploration. I don't either. It's another thing to start or comment on a thread complaining about things that you had no clue aren't even true about space exploration because you didn't bother to do a quick Google.

I’m no scientist but I’m pretty certain that man made satellites in space are essential to global communications. There are resources on the moon that we are running out of too- isn’t there helium there? Surely we also need decent knowledge of space and rockets for missile defence systems?

Yet you’re posting on the internet and presumably expect to be able to contact people on the other side of the world/ receive data from there rather than it being brought to you via a ship (ooops… more technology).

How do you think this happens exactly? How are data signals passed around the Earth given that it is a sphere so there is no direct straight line via which you could pick up a radio signal etc?

Irony is lost on some people.

I'm really interested in space science and I think research is important, however not with the view to colonising somewhere other than Earth. If an asteroid hits Earth or the Sun dies out, so be it. I think it's arrogant to think humanity deserves more than our lifespan on Earth.

So interesting reading everyone's arguments. Different opinions are what makes the world go round! (Not literally...)