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How long until the License Fee is dropped?

188 replies

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/03/2026 22:07

I reckon by the end of this year, it will begin being phased out.

I am sad about it.

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FoolOfShips · 31/03/2026 08:19

I think the TV licensing model will simply become untenable. More and more people aren't paying it - whether legitimately or not. The generation for which having a TV licence was just something you had to do if you owned a telly is dying out and being replaced by people whose normal is subscribing to their choice of streaming. It will collapse of its own accord if it isn't formally abandoned.

BIossomtoes · 31/03/2026 08:20

Silverbellsandtacoshells · 31/03/2026 08:18

Then you'll know what it says?

" A gentleman was arrested and went into a mental institution. When he was released, the House authorities and the Met police met me and said, “This gentleman is now out and he knows where you live.” "
" I am a person who watches where he walks and does not stand by the side of the platform on the tube. I alter my way of coming into the House. It is very stressful."
"...there does not feel like there is very much for those on the receiving end."

We know this sometimes happens which is why MPs get protection. It still doesn’t excuse Farage never going near his constituency.

Silverbellsandtacoshells · 31/03/2026 08:23

BIossomtoes · 31/03/2026 08:20

We know this sometimes happens which is why MPs get protection. It still doesn’t excuse Farage never going near his constituency.

"Never here Keir" is hardly ever in UK, so what's your point?

Changingplace · 31/03/2026 08:23

Lonelycrab · 31/03/2026 01:16

The bbc didn’t even bother to report the nearly half million people marching against the far right last weekend

When pretty much every media outlet was reporting itHmm

Edited

Yes they did, I’ve seen this complained about elsewhere and it’s been reported, link below.

It was on the front page on Saturday when it happened and has dropped down to a local London page now, unless you have your settings that you’re particularly interested in this type of content.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2rn03ryz8o

These kind of marches happen regularly, unless something exceptional or newsworthy happens in addition to the match they’re never going to get more coverage than this.

A crowd of people walk London, their heads are seen amongst dozens of colourful signs, flags and plaquards.

Thousands gather for anti far-right march in London

Organisers of the Together Alliance march say 500,000 people attended but a police estimate put the figure closer to 50,000.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2rn03ryz8o

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 08:25

randomchap · 31/03/2026 08:05

Great, you're back. You might have missed it earlier, but what is your issue with Pride?

Have you heard of Stephen Ireland?

MissingSockDetective · 31/03/2026 08:27

I really value it and their offerings for children are better quality than some of the others. I also think the extras they do, like BBC bitesize and BBC sounds are fantastic and really useful.

randomchap · 31/03/2026 08:27

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 08:25

Have you heard of Stephen Ireland?

The footballer? What's he got to do with Pride?

BIossomtoes · 31/03/2026 08:31

Why do so many perfectly innocuous threads become homophobic and transphobic? Perhaps you could help me out here@ProudAmberTurtle?

hahabahbag · 31/03/2026 08:34

We will be in worse place if they do, it’s the best value tv you get (yes Netflix has tons of stuff but most has been on there for ages, and was old stuff bought cheaply from tv networks eg loads of itv stuff on there. Only the bbc news can be trusted too (itv, channel 4 and sky aren’t too bad due to strict rules on broadcast news) other news sources are merely opinion and stuff downloaded off the main news agency wires these days, as for so called gb news….

EasternStandard · 31/03/2026 08:36

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 07:46

Let's just say I'd be slightly surprised if Labour put the licence fee into taxation because too few people were willing to pay for it.

Imagine the optics - we would be paying million pound a year salaries for a left wing luvvie to tell us that men are women before they're sacked over a sex scandal.

It wouldn't look good would it?

Even Labour aren't that stupid...

Idk the consultation survey was incredibly loaded towards the BBC surviving. Created with Labour they can site x percent want this. When the questions were stacked in favour.

From the stuff they asked it looked likely they want mc to pay more and maybe a way to do tax. Of course Labour are struggling already so getting voted out could see whatever they do end.

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 08:38

randomchap · 31/03/2026 08:27

The footballer? What's he got to do with Pride?

The former CEO of Pride in Surrey. He and another senior Pride volunteer were jailed for kidnapping and raping a child last year.

It then turned out he'd been using Pride to get access to children.

He also hosted radio shows at the BBC.

And of course the BBC gave this minimal coverage.

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 08:39

BIossomtoes · 31/03/2026 08:31

Why do so many perfectly innocuous threads become homophobic and transphobic? Perhaps you could help me out here@ProudAmberTurtle?

Child safeguarding is not transphobic and you should be wary of anyone who tells you it is

BIossomtoes · 31/03/2026 08:41

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 08:39

Child safeguarding is not transphobic and you should be wary of anyone who tells you it is

That wasn’t the question. I asked why the trans issue constantly finds its way onto completely unrelated threads. Since you’re responsible for that happening on this one, I thought perhaps you could explain.

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 08:45

BIossomtoes · 31/03/2026 08:41

That wasn’t the question. I asked why the trans issue constantly finds its way onto completely unrelated threads. Since you’re responsible for that happening on this one, I thought perhaps you could explain.

It's a thread about the BBC and many people stated that they stopped liking the BBC when it started lying that men could become women.

The only derailment was then others said you're not allowed to say this because...

It's transphobic.

randomchap · 31/03/2026 08:49

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 08:38

The former CEO of Pride in Surrey. He and another senior Pride volunteer were jailed for kidnapping and raping a child last year.

It then turned out he'd been using Pride to get access to children.

He also hosted radio shows at the BBC.

And of course the BBC gave this minimal coverage.

And that makes Pride bad? Cos someone used it as a cover to abuse children. Do you feel the same way about Scouts, the church, etc?

BIossomtoes · 31/03/2026 08:51

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 08:45

It's a thread about the BBC and many people stated that they stopped liking the BBC when it started lying that men could become women.

The only derailment was then others said you're not allowed to say this because...

It's transphobic.

“Many people” stated nothing of the sort. You said The obsession with left wing diversity and especially transgenderism at the expense of quality programming has killed it but the licence fee is a nonsense irrespective of this. The trans issue hadn’t been mentioned until then. So, I ask again, why did you introduce it?

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 09:14

randomchap · 31/03/2026 08:49

And that makes Pride bad? Cos someone used it as a cover to abuse children. Do you feel the same way about Scouts, the church, etc?

There have been five senior Pride people arrested, charged or convicted of paedophilia offences in the UK in just the last 12 months.

Yes I do think that's a bad thing.

Plus the three main Pride events, London, Brighton and Manchester, have all become embroiled in financial scandals.

And yes I think that's a bad thing as well.

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 09:17

BIossomtoes · 31/03/2026 08:51

“Many people” stated nothing of the sort. You said The obsession with left wing diversity and especially transgenderism at the expense of quality programming has killed it but the licence fee is a nonsense irrespective of this. The trans issue hadn’t been mentioned until then. So, I ask again, why did you introduce it?

Many others were talking about the left wing bias at the BBC.

And when they say that we all know one of the main issues has been...

The BBC's obsession with telling us that men can get pregnant.

Would you believe it - there's a documentary on the BBC TONIGHT about...

A 'man' who got pregnant and now lives in a 'throuple'.

Methinks, finally, you're starting to get this..

BIossomtoes · 31/03/2026 09:23

we all know one of the main issues has been...

No we don’t. You’re obsessed. What’s this programme? I’d quite like to watch it.

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 09:32

It's available now: Three Dads And A Baby

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002thqx

randomchap · 31/03/2026 09:36

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 09:14

There have been five senior Pride people arrested, charged or convicted of paedophilia offences in the UK in just the last 12 months.

Yes I do think that's a bad thing.

Plus the three main Pride events, London, Brighton and Manchester, have all become embroiled in financial scandals.

And yes I think that's a bad thing as well.

So Pride is bad because people working for it have abused children? I suspect every single large organisation would be thought to be bad if this is your criteria.

Why single out Pride?

PottingBench · 31/03/2026 09:39

Silverbellsandtacoshells · 31/03/2026 08:23

"Never here Keir" is hardly ever in UK, so what's your point?

Keir Starmer in PM. A key part of his role is outward facing.
Nigel Farage is MP for Clacton. What percentage of his role (well, him MP role, not the other jobs he does) involves international travel?

RhaenysRocks · 31/03/2026 09:45

MissingSockDetective · 31/03/2026 08:27

I really value it and their offerings for children are better quality than some of the others. I also think the extras they do, like BBC bitesize and BBC sounds are fantastic and really useful.

Agreed. I listen to a lot of BBC sounds podcasts and watch a lot of bbc4. I worry that the smaller, niche stuff that doesn't attract large viewing figures and therefore advertisers just won't get made. Its another nail in the coffin of general appreciation of being interested in history, art, politics, culture just because. Of watching a long documentary series just because you want to know about Vietnam or Edward III or Mozart. Unless its a competition with people being voted off, or 5 minute soundbites, it wont get made.

PottingBench · 31/03/2026 09:48

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 08:38

The former CEO of Pride in Surrey. He and another senior Pride volunteer were jailed for kidnapping and raping a child last year.

It then turned out he'd been using Pride to get access to children.

He also hosted radio shows at the BBC.

And of course the BBC gave this minimal coverage.

I just did a quick Google search on this.
The first article that comes up is from the BBC.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx28yj34zgpo

Here are some other articles from the BBC covering this story.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kkrxdpndo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3d5jkkp5zyo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgdq9znqw0o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c07dre35eylo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjvdym7y8ko

Guildford Crown Court building, a red brick building with a triangular entrance

Surrey Pride co-founder Stephen Ireland guilty of raping boy, 12

Stephen Ireland, 41, and David Sutton, 27, have been convicted of a series of child sex offences.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx28yj34zgpo

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 09:49

randomchap · 31/03/2026 09:36

So Pride is bad because people working for it have abused children? I suspect every single large organisation would be thought to be bad if this is your criteria.

Why single out Pride?

Not sure I even want to know the answer to this - but what do YOU think should happen to Pride in Surrey now we know that the ex BBC presenter who ran it is a paedophile who used Pride to get into schools and set up a phoneline for confused children to call, in which the number was .. his personal phone number?

And he didn't even do this alone.

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