Sexual abuse ?????? How ? What? wtf

[TheOpalFox]

Scary shit
ny teenager has a gf. She said my son axles her to touch him and he’s had a warning off the police for sexual abuse! He’s 15!!!!!!! Why are they taking what she said as the truth? Scary world

What's actually wrong with you?

I think the version of events relayed to the police is not what you’ve described here. Can you ask the police to discuss with you the events that led to the caution?

She's either pissed, on a wind up, a teenage boy or all of the above.

How old is the girl?

Ah, now we are getting somewhere.

She reported him.

OP, what makes you think she had consented to whatever took place?

What are you talking about? Why did you alllow him to accept a caution? He has admitted assault.

youve let him down. Only a complete idiot would let their 15 year old accept a caution

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The OP has a fairly long posting history.

Although much of it can be a bit garbled to be fair.

OP, you haven't said why you let him accept the caution if he says he's innocent?

You quoted someone asking the question, but didn't actually answer it.

They only give cautions to people who ADMIT GUILT. You are saying he did nothing illegal but he disagrees.

It reads like he's accepted the caution - that means the reason the police are taking what she said as true is because your son has accepted guilt for it.

15 year olds can sexually abuse others, it's a growing issue in children with some arguing it being connected with media, particularly online, and cultural shifts.

She said yes there was no forcement

I'm not sure if you're going based just on what your son has said or what the police have said to be so certain for something you weren't present for, but either way - submission is not the same as consent (she may have felt forced to say yes), and as she is 15, then she can't legally consent anyways. So yes, it was abuse, by law.

If he thinks she is falsely reporting, then he should have been advised on that. As it is, he's accepted guilt and focus should be on what he's going to differently going forward. It may be a shock for you, but blaming it on the girl as it sounds like you are isn't going to help anything.

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I dunno this is all new to me and I froze I guess . I dunno :( I feel all confused and my head don’t feel great about it all xx

He will have to have admitted that he's done something without her consent, they don't just give out cautions for fun.

Under the conditions you describe, for the allegations you mention, the police interviewing a 15 year old without patent or guardian sou ds to be verging on unlawful. Did he have a lawyer there? I doubt it. If what is said is true, and he was interviewed and accepted a caution without parental or legal representation, then a serious breach of the law has taken place by the police. I am assuming you are on the UK.

I would advise you to contact a criminal lawyer tomorrow and arrange a meeting to get to the bottom of this, and if appropriate to take action as appropriate.

Did you get a solicitor to attend the police station ?

To those saying the op is an idiot for letting him accept the caution..most of us have zero experience of police procedure or knowledge of the implications of things like this. I actually think it would be pretty helpful if there was a parents guide ..if your teen is accused of x...especially in relation to digital stuff, sharing images, accessing porn etc. What should you do, what questions should you ask etc.

But presumably, in order to accept the caution OP would’ve been present whilst the police interviewed him, and he accepted he was guilty in order to accept the caution. This would been spelled out clearly.

Yet OP is still pretending that he didn’t do it, and that she can’t understand why the police believed her. Despite son admitting guilt of assault, in her presence

the police would’ve told them all this and they could’ve sought legal advice

It sounds as though op was there?
Why are you assuming she wasn’t, or that they weren’t at least offered the duty solicitor?

If your kid is telling you they absolutely didn't do what they're being accused of, you don't need a guide to advise you not to allow them to admit guilt.

If you do, you have no business being there in the capacity of 'responsible adult'.

I am guessing that the OP doesn’t actually mean an official police Caution but maybe she means “a warning” was given by police.

As PP are saying, to receive an official police Caution, DS would need to have been formally interviewed with an appropriate adult present, and admitted the offence before accepting and signing official paperwork which would have been fully explained - in presence of AA. Legal advice is optional.

He has LITERALLY accepted that he’s done something illegal by admitting to it and accepting the caution.
I’m not trying to be rude, but do you have learning difficulties, op? You seem unable to process plain English.

Well she used the word 'caution' but who knows.

I don’t think there’s anything else the police could’ve done? What’s “a warning”? The police don’t go around giving informal warnings for serious crimes

That's true.

If they think someone's committed sexual assault, they're not going to slap them on the wrist and tell them not to do it again.