To think Labour is not the party of the working people.

[pinkpalmleaves]

I voted for Labour as I believed their election pledge of being a party for the working people but genuinely I can’t think of one thing, since they’ve been in power, that they’ve done to help me (a single working mother on around £42k a year)! I get zero help from UC, these mystical breakfast clubs don’t exist, people aren’t employing people due to their ridiculous NI implications, they aren’t building affordable housing, energy prices are insanely high and all they talk about is grants (which won’t affect me as I live in a flat)! Genuinely I can’t think of one thing that they’ve done to help working people in the middle. Why are Labour sticking their heads in the sand? Why do they refuse to help the squeezed working class? They are stopping this economy from thriving - as
nobody can afford to spend anything extra (treats, holidays, meals out etc etc)!

Yep, life is only getting more expensive for the majority

This.

Carer's Allowance.

Hammering SMEs is the worst way to go. Plus more on benefits.

The UK’s Net Zero strategy has caused the global price of oil to soar? That’s a new one on me.

Maybe not to the same extent as Labour but they would still have been watered down.

You're very much in a minority as a net contributor and I would be interested in how you would do things if you were given the opportunity to decide exactly how that tax is spent.

Agree about Farage but I personally feel politically lost as none of the parties seem to appeal as anymore

The most boys popular name is I think an indication that perhaps some groups are having more children than others. Often for cultural reasons. I don't know. Have a Google and get back to me. I would like to know proper figures in all these issues so we know facts rather than react to people's feelings.

No we were stuffed on the price of electricity well before the Iran Crisis. Shame we havent got a source of our own oil right on our doorstep really.

Agree about Farage but I personally feel politically lost as none of the parties seem to appeal as anymore

The issues are too big & we need huge reform if that is even possible. It will take years so you need cross party consensus

100%. The SNP pay public sector workers about 20% more than in England and benefits are similarly higher. All paid for by the few highly paid private sector workers that remain. And they keep getting voted in so we have to keep paying for their batshit policies that benefit mainly their voters.

This I agree with.

@Pineneedlesincarpet you seem to be misunderstanding. Birth rates are falling in the UK and have been for years. I haven’t said immigrants don’t have more dc just that they aren’t at replacement level

Have a Google and get back to me. I would like to know proper figures in all these issues so we know facts rather than react to people's feelings.

The irony 😆😆😆

I think the only way forward is to outsource tax changes to the IFS. We need sensible decisions to be made on tax and welfare that will benefit the UK economy and be fair on taxpayers, not decisions that purely serve to increase the election chances of their MPs. The endless cuts to pay for welfare is killing public services.

They are really not the people causing the economic problems!

They have:

• Increased funding and workforce plans for the National Health Service
• Taken steps to reduce strikes and stabilise public services
• Introduced plans for stronger workers’ rights (e.g. limits on zero-hours contracts)
• Began reforms to speed up housebuilding and increase housing supply
• Launched Great British Energy to invest in renewable energy
• Moved toward public ownership of parts of the rail system
• Focused on improving UK relations with the European Union
• Provided a more stable and less turbulent style of government under Keir Starmer

It’s really not been that long and their PR is crap. But they have done some good things for society I think.

A lot of countries in the west we have got rid of our industries and over recent years have found ourselves stuck in knee jerk populist political back and forth's as the very very rich have gotten obsecenly wealthy while contributing little back.

UK and US especially suffered from this political "self harm" with politicians praying on people's fury and anger.

Well I did tell you the right figures about the rise in population v immigration increase. I just don't want to start being controversial about who is having babies and who isnt. Hence why I suggested you do your own research so we don't get sidetracked.

Growth is at zero, unemployment is up particularly youth unemployment. They are the people causing the problems.

I’m already maxed out with contributions.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not pleading poverty, I just think the system is ridiculous and will lead to many higher taxpayers working less. I’m now pretty much forced to negotiate a reduction in working hours until my DC are past the nursery stage. It’s a ridiculous scenario as I’d be happy to pay a reasonable amount of tax but an effective marginal rate in excess of 100% is an insurmountable blocker.

They are the government, how can they not be causing the economic problems?

@Whybother2 I get it, it’s one reason I’m p/t.

@EasternStandard when was growth good?

You think our problems are just down to youth unemployment?!

It is true. What’s your new definition of business? Merchant banking? Hedge fund managers?

What I find most depressing is that there is a small window of opportunity to turn things around although I am less sure now with the Iran issue. However people won’t vote for cross party solutions or long term initiatives & outcomes. So many want short term fixes and don’t seem to actually understand the fundamental challenges we are facing and how we got here.