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To think Labour is not the party of the working people.

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pinkpalmleaves · 24/03/2026 17:57

I voted for Labour as I believed their election pledge of being a party for the working people but genuinely I can’t think of one thing, since they’ve been in power, that they’ve done to help me (a single working mother on around £42k a year)! I get zero help from UC, these mystical breakfast clubs don’t exist, people aren’t employing people due to their ridiculous NI implications, they aren’t building affordable housing, energy prices are insanely high and all they talk about is grants (which won’t affect me as I live in a flat)! Genuinely I can’t think of one thing that they’ve done to help working people in the middle. Why are Labour sticking their heads in the sand? Why do they refuse to help the squeezed working class? They are stopping this economy from thriving - as
nobody can afford to spend anything extra (treats, holidays, meals out etc etc)!

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HermioneWeasley · 25/03/2026 10:34

inkognitha · 25/03/2026 09:22

Kemi is doing great.

The Greens, Labour and Lib Dems are all going to keep pandering to their left and stay in their fantasy world.

If you think this country needs fixing regarding immigration, economy, welfare, etc. and don’t want to vote for Reform, which is a lot of us, she is the only option.

And she is a black woman coming from immigration who made her own path and knows what a woman is, not the usual privileged, disconnected from reality, middle class, uni types you find in politics.

Agree, it’s great seeing her get into her stride. She was so good when she was minister for women and equalities - she was smart, brave, principled and all over her brief when there wasn’t any real advantage to her to put time and effort into it.

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 10:48

inkognitha · 25/03/2026 09:22

Kemi is doing great.

The Greens, Labour and Lib Dems are all going to keep pandering to their left and stay in their fantasy world.

If you think this country needs fixing regarding immigration, economy, welfare, etc. and don’t want to vote for Reform, which is a lot of us, she is the only option.

And she is a black woman coming from immigration who made her own path and knows what a woman is, not the usual privileged, disconnected from reality, middle class, uni types you find in politics.

But polling shows she isn't connecting with voters. For example, in Wales the Tories are predicted to lose all but one of their 11 Senedd seats in May. In England, they are predicted to go from 1146 to 736 seats.

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 11:20

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 10:48

But polling shows she isn't connecting with voters. For example, in Wales the Tories are predicted to lose all but one of their 11 Senedd seats in May. In England, they are predicted to go from 1146 to 736 seats.

Welsh voters who are right of centre obviously prefer Reform. Perhaps you should start promoting Kemi locally and online to increase her standing :-)

Sartre · 25/03/2026 11:30

Alexandra2001 · 25/03/2026 07:58

Our primary has a breakfast club.... do you have any idea how many schools there are in the UK ?

However, after 14 years of Austerity, Covid, Ukraine and the running down of public services... why do you think 18months is long enough to turn things around?

Personally, i don't think any Govt can turn things around atm, we have become a benefits country.... i don't mean UC i mean the clamour to have "Energy Support" "Cut fuel duty" "i want cheap heating oil, other tax payers can pay for it"

No one says "i'll turn the heating down" i'll drive less/slower"

People on 80k or 90k claiming childcare... why? if you cannot afford kids on that salary, don't fucking have them.

Its all "what can i get from the state"

I'm pretty left wing, but this take take take attitude is destroying the country & not what the Welfare state was set up to do & i didn't support the lifting of the 2 cap limit either.

Hopefully Reeves saying any support will be targeted on the poor might start to change things.

They were elected on the mandate they would introduce free breakfast clubs in all schools. They're almost half way through their tenure and this still hasn't happened. I think it was rolled out in a small selection of schools 6 months in but hasn't been extended. The schools in our district selected were in exceptionally affluent areas... So yeah, it's annoying because our DC's school have raised the cost!

Sartre · 25/03/2026 11:32

inkognitha · 25/03/2026 09:22

Kemi is doing great.

The Greens, Labour and Lib Dems are all going to keep pandering to their left and stay in their fantasy world.

If you think this country needs fixing regarding immigration, economy, welfare, etc. and don’t want to vote for Reform, which is a lot of us, she is the only option.

And she is a black woman coming from immigration who made her own path and knows what a woman is, not the usual privileged, disconnected from reality, middle class, uni types you find in politics.

Bollocks, have you looked at her background? Her Dad was a GP and Mum a professor. She isn't Angela Rayner.

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 11:33

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 11:20

Welsh voters who are right of centre obviously prefer Reform. Perhaps you should start promoting Kemi locally and online to increase her standing :-)

Welsh voters who are right of centre obviously prefer Reform

Yes, that is true, sadly, Tory voters in Wales seem to be switching to Reform. As I said, Badenoch is failing to connect with the electorate.

Why would I want to promote Badenoch? The left in some form is going to be in power in Wales by the looks of things. 🤞

EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 11:34

Sartre · 25/03/2026 11:32

Bollocks, have you looked at her background? Her Dad was a GP and Mum a professor. She isn't Angela Rayner.

I bet she’s faced barriers that others don’t. Good on her for being successful.

EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 11:35

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 11:33

Welsh voters who are right of centre obviously prefer Reform

Yes, that is true, sadly, Tory voters in Wales seem to be switching to Reform. As I said, Badenoch is failing to connect with the electorate.

Why would I want to promote Badenoch? The left in some form is going to be in power in Wales by the looks of things. 🤞

Starmer is failing to connect even more, on a national level.

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 11:38

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 11:33

Welsh voters who are right of centre obviously prefer Reform

Yes, that is true, sadly, Tory voters in Wales seem to be switching to Reform. As I said, Badenoch is failing to connect with the electorate.

Why would I want to promote Badenoch? The left in some form is going to be in power in Wales by the looks of things. 🤞

It was a joke Pandora.
Your choice if you prefer Farage to be the contender for votes right of centre.
I don't think Reform want to win in Wales, they'd no doubt prefer to keep their record clean for the next GE. Second place would be more beneficial to them.

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 11:42

EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 11:35

Starmer is failing to connect even more, on a national level.

Yes, he is, but Nuthatch and I were discussing Badenoch and the Senedd elections.

To think Labour is not the party of the working people.
KTheGrey · 25/03/2026 11:45

HermioneWeasley · 24/03/2026 18:03

Thy are the party of people on benefits - they’re not remotely interested in working people m, small businesses or anyone with aspiration.

I think they are profoundly interested in punishing any sign of upward mobility. I still think that VAT on school fees is just vandalism.

EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 11:48

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 11:42

Yes, he is, but Nuthatch and I were discussing Badenoch and the Senedd elections.

That’s fine. Wales will vote as they wish, I doubt any Conservative leader would cut through. I’m happy for Kemi to stay, there’s no way she should go because Wales are moving to Reform or PC.

It’ll be much harder for Starmer to get past losing an area held for 100 years.

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 11:50

EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 11:48

That’s fine. Wales will vote as they wish, I doubt any Conservative leader would cut through. I’m happy for Kemi to stay, there’s no way she should go because Wales are moving to Reform or PC.

It’ll be much harder for Starmer to get past losing an area held for 100 years.

Yep. The only losers in Wales will be Labour.

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 11:51

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 11:38

It was a joke Pandora.
Your choice if you prefer Farage to be the contender for votes right of centre.
I don't think Reform want to win in Wales, they'd no doubt prefer to keep their record clean for the next GE. Second place would be more beneficial to them.

I absolutely don't prefer Farage to be second. I would much prefer a decent, One Nation Tory party. But I don't think that is what Badenoch wants going by her speech a few weeks ago and some of what she has said since.

I don't think Reform want to win in Wales, they'd no doubt prefer to keep their record clean for the next GE

Farage was saying a few months ago that a win in Wales would mean Reform would be on course to win in Westminster. He has gone very quiet on that since Caerphilly. So I don't think it is that he doesn't want to win in Wales. He has realised he (hopefully 🤞) can't. So some face saving going on.

As for keeping Reform's record clean, the horse has already bolted on that one.

DogsInPuddles · 25/03/2026 11:51

Suzysinkingship · 24/03/2026 19:48

Even if the government do give incentives for people to work they then have to actually become employed it's really not quite as simple as just taking away their money and you can't force employers to take on risky people and a lot of those unemployed are not in the areas where the jobs are. "Get on your bike and look" only really works if there's access to affordable housing etc..

The above is the reason most governments since the 80s have struggled with welfare because it's far less simple than the media would have you believe. The system needs changing completely not just welfare but I fear that would in the end make us working class folk even worse off if not done carefully

You are right, but no one wants to hear sensible answers

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 11:51

I don't think Reform want to win in Wales, they'd no doubt prefer to keep their record clean for the next GE.

That ship’s already sailed. Winning all those councils last year has done them no favours.

RichardTice · 25/03/2026 11:52

My favourite economies are the gulf States, Singapore and HK. Low tax, free market and a place to build your success

Whammyammy · 25/03/2026 11:52

Labour look after the lazy, not the working people

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 11:53

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 11:51

I don't think Reform want to win in Wales, they'd no doubt prefer to keep their record clean for the next GE.

That ship’s already sailed. Winning all those councils last year has done them no favours.

Good, all the better for Kemi.

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 11:56

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 11:50

Yep. The only losers in Wales will be Labour.

Agree. They could still be in power via a coalition, though. Although it depends on who Plaid prefers to enter a coalition with. If the Greens do as well as predicted, it could be a Plaid-Green coalition. With Reform as the official opposition 🫣

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 11:57

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 11:53

Good, all the better for Kemi.

I think that’s highly debatable.

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 11:59

RichardTice · 25/03/2026 11:52

My favourite economies are the gulf States, Singapore and HK. Low tax, free market and a place to build your success

Your constituents are getting pissed off with you though, tricky!

www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/mar/25/boston-lincolnshire-flooding-reform-uk-richard-tice-climate

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 11:59

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 11:56

Agree. They could still be in power via a coalition, though. Although it depends on who Plaid prefers to enter a coalition with. If the Greens do as well as predicted, it could be a Plaid-Green coalition. With Reform as the official opposition 🫣

Yes thats exactly what I'm saying. The scenario you allude to in your pp would actually benefit Reform at the next GE. They would have influence as opposition, but could point to all the mistakes of a left wing coalition. Win win.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 25/03/2026 12:00

pinkpalmleaves · 24/03/2026 18:07

@HermioneWeasleyyes this is exactly how it feel. I was expecting the usual Labour UC help etc but also feel they spun a bit of a lie saying they’re th party of the working people. I know it might offend some people but we don’t all have shit loads of cash to spend and are on the poverty line, but entitled to nothing! It’s quite a scary place to be!

You’re upset because you expected to be entitled to UC under a Labour government?

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 12:01

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 11:57

I think that’s highly debatable.

I thought you were going to hold your nose and vote conservative? Aka a vote for Kemi.