Paying to find young person a first job

[mothersdaywoe]

Has anyone tried this, its not expensive £500 for coaching, CV analysis, career advice BUT no guarantee of employment at the end.
Its been a year now, DC is depressed and failing further and further behind

There are a huge number of initiatives coming on stream to tackle youth unemployment...free government schemes...paid work in some cases with guaranteed interviews at the end...are you speaking with the local job centre, other local agencies?

Also unfortunately the money in science isn’t in the actual science work. The money, as with almost all industries, follows the finance, economics and technology graduates.

Art and science grads end up on relatively average salaries unless they’re in healthcare or engineering.

Allied health professionals are the only ones I can think of with those requirements - the physio, dietitian, OT routes

In that case, if she wants a career in science and not lab-based (which is odd, most scientists are at the start at least, I was) frankly she is under qualified with a 2(i) degree. She needs a PhD. My partner is recruiting at the moment in science and what may have been a graduate job 10 or 15 years ago now has a majority of PhDs applying. It is so tough, and getting into big industry even harder. Why did lab work not appeal to her? My PhD was a very happy period for me, steering my own research but with a fab team of bright people around me and superbright post docs. Do you agree her unsuitable lab experience is extrapolatable to other roles in different labs and settings?

If you pay this whoever for advice, I do hope they are current and active in the field.

OK. People in my family and friends with science degrees have found careers in IT, science communication, academia, health and safety, project management, teaching and manufacturing. That's the ones who have built a career on their degree - often life takes us in other directions. Outside advice and support might benefit your DD but does she know what areas she wants to move into?

I am not a scientist but know loads due to my family being stuffed full of them, I married one and he has loads of friends who are scientists.

All of them did grunt lab work without exception and all of them except one has a PhD and they have a masters.

DS mate did an unpaid internship, it’s not great working for nothing but it did lead to a very good reference which in turn led to a job. He already had work experience in a factory on the production line whereas the internship was a professional role. This was last year so recent.

I do agree with this point. However it does not preclude going to networking events with a supporter. Depending on the type of event (eg not focused on recruiters meeting candidates), it is common to arrive with a colleague or associate, splitting off to talk to different people, then getting together again to debrief or whatever. First steps might simply be to get familiar with the landscape before diving in to a serious job hunt. But yes, definitely have a plan so you don't end up telling people 'this is my mum'!

Thank you. I'm dreading the job centre visit when my ds finishes education this year!

Exactly. And it’s only because of so called “low level” work for so many years that I learnt how to really graft. I also went to a “”””Russell Brick””””” university and it did not help me get to where I am today. I think, OP, your attitude needs to change. I wouldn’t hire some 21 year old who thinks they are better than a cleaner, and yes- i have an employee and a cleaner.

How do you think cv analysis, coaching and career advice will help your dd? It sounds like she's unable to cope with many things and I can't see how the above will help. She can't brush her teeth most mornings, doesn't have the mental capacity to be posting herself, is depressed, might sit in a corner and not talk anyone, etc etc. I think you need to start somewhere much more basic before looking at her career.

I think you'd have been better posting asking for advice on how your daughter with MH difficulties/SEND can be supported into her ideal career.

Sorry if this has already been suggested but has your DD registered with recruitment agents? Most companies recruit through an agent as the don't have the man power to review hundreds of CVs. Recruitment agents are free for the candidate and will give feedback on CV and help prepare her for the interview. A lot of recruitment agents specialise in sectors. Eg science, finance, health care etc and are very different from job centres. Other popular route is LinkedIn. I recommend she sets up a profile and follows companies in the sector she wants to work and also registers to get notified of jobs in the sector she wants. Unless graduates have a specific graduate job, most will go in at a low level and work their way up.

OP’s responses have suggested that neither she nor her daughter want to do any of that sort of stuff. She literally just wants someone to rewrite the CV so she will be offered a well paying, non entry level job without putting in any effort. This really is a hopeless thread.

it wasn't great, but just be prepared to hoop jump when necessary.

I was relieved he was spared regular visits and commitments.

Can you PM me details please?

Job hunting can be brutal but so can the demands of a grad role - it’s not for someone who is struggling with basic daily functions.
Good jobs mean pressure to perform to high standards and to do this you need bucket loads of resilience.
Having a degree might get your foot in the door but it’s only the start of the battle.

That’s industry standard
I have the level 6 and I work with post 16.

tbh it sounds like your dd requires confidence building. Permission almost to not seek out sector specific roles yet. Instead find things she can try to see what she likes. I studied science too. My placements in labs made me realise too that it wasnt for me. But volunteering encouraged me to find a role with people.

Is your dd claiming UC? Even though they are unlikely to be qualified careers specialists they will have schemes she can participate in. Dd did this after graduating which led to a job.

You're all missing the point. OP just wants to be told to pay the money and doesn't want to hear anything else.

OP - pay the money.

I wanted to hear people‘s experiences if people didn’t have experiences I didn’t need to hear their life stories or their thoughts or opinions or insults and yet i got them anyway. The joys of AIBU
I really wish people would realise, most people don’t post on here for anything other than traffic

Does your DD want to meet with the careers coach? If it's something she is keen to do then why not, nothing to lose except the money. Has she had any luck getting through the recruitment rounds when applying for jobs? If not, then help with her CV, presentations etc... could be valuable.

My DD sought out a lot of support from the university careers department on writing her cover letter and CV.

Did she apply for jobs whilst she was studying or wait until after graduation? What is her take on all of this? Did she start off confident and optimistic or did she crumble as soon as she was out of the structure of education?

At this stage, I don't think it matters what or where she volunteers. Even helping out in a charity shop twice a week will look great on a CV as it demonstrates drive and commitment. I graduated in 2008 and had to volunteer in a position I hated for almost a year before I got my first full-time job (which was not even in my chosen sector). At interview, instead of saying that I had been unemployed for a year I could rebrand it as developing necessary workplace skills. A gap in a CV is off putting to employers.

If she is at Tesco try and get her to try training to be a manager.

You only wanted to hear from people who had had positive experiences- to me it seemed like you only engaged positively with those who were saying spending £500 on this service was a good idea.
Anyone who offered alternative advice or questioned the service you were talking about were dismissed - often quite rudely.

My professional advice is that spending £500 on this service at this moment in time would be a waste of money .

If (and it’s a big if) it was worth this type of money your daughter needs to be in a better place with her mental health. From what you’ve said she’s not in the best place to be making big career decisions and putting herself out there in very competitive graduate labour market.

Check the qualifications and experience of anyone claiming to be a career coach - it’s an unregulated profession. Literally anyone can call themselves a career coach and there are a lot of unqualified people seeing this as an opportunity to make money off vulnerable people.

She should try again to use the university careers service- even if the appointment is weeks/months in advance. There are lots of things she can do in the meantime to put her in a good place mentally before her appointment. The university team will be experienced in working with recent graduates, will understand the labour market and understand her course and what previous graduates have gone on to do. They will also have industry contacts and connections. And their support is free!

She doesn’t want to be a manager of a shop

Correct and yet here you are again commenting hopefully somebody else is getting something out of your posts

No one would make her manager because she wants a position .It was mentioned she struggled to brush her teeth. Do you really think that kind of person can be responsible for team, health and safety, etc?