AIBU to question why taxpayers should fund Ian Huntley’s cremation?

[PassingStranger]

Can't Ian Huntleys mother who was at his bedside and in touch with him, pay for his cremation.
Why should the tax payer pay?
He's already cost the taxpayer loads.🤔😫

Body disposal costs vary by region, but also by job. Murdered prisoners will always come with a risk of someone acting unpredictably, mostly protesters, but possibly fans. Funeral directors can turn down work that isn't attractive. The government has a responsibility to ensure bodies are disposed of in a hygienic way.

I think people using the word funeral are skewing views a bit. It isn't a funeral in the sense of a eulogy, some hymns and a poem. It is disposal of a corpse.

That is not guaranteed

The family would need to prove that the prison service failed to protect him

They would need to prove there was a credible threat that the prison service knew about and did nothing about

I would be surprised if the family pursue this given the bad publicity they would get

We don't know the taxpayer is paying anything.

If someone dies in prison then the prison service can contribute UP TO £3000.

I would not be surprised if he has already been cremated.

⬆️ this.

She would be allowed to pay if she wanted to. But, it’s normal that the government pay for those who die in prison. Especially if the state failed in their duty of care towards that prisoner.

It’ll be a secret and very basic cremation, and his ashes will be scattered somewhere. A negligible cost against keeping him in prison.

None of this was her fault. 🤷‍♀️

I would think that he has been cremated and that will have carried out with the utmost secrecy so that we don't get protesters at the crematorium or, alternatively, sightseeing idiots. Paying for his funeral allows the government to decide the arrangements.
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@sweetsilenceI'm very sorry for your loss 💐

It was interesting to see an interview with the funeral directors who handled Ian Brady's remains.

They made the point that as a human being he was entitled to a proper funeral.

If I was to get upset about anything its when people like Henry Vincent who was stabbed by a home owner whose house he had broken into in Hither Green then get a huge funeral which is effectively used to try and terrorise the community he died in.

Thats the sort of funeral we should be upset about

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5688751/Henry-Vincent-funeral-Lurid-100-000-send-burglar-killed-pensioner.html

If 'someone other than the taxpayer ought to fund the funeral' it seems logical to me that the person who caused the death should be paying - as in the concept that actions have consequences.

I think it's because usually it's the female members of the family (I.e. mothers) who tend to stick around to pick up all the pieces. I doubt his father was on the scene.

He was murdered in prison. While nobody will mourn him (except his mother), i don't think his mum should foot that bill.

Personally I'd favour dumping him in landfill 🤷‍♀️ I'm only partly joking.

The main thing is, apart from his mum, nobody will miss him. Absolutely nobody .

Exactly. The OP was probably there tbf

Didn't know about the delay but I've just looked it up now. In my memory it happened soon after his death but it was five months. With Huntley they might as well just get on with it cheaply and quickly.

Yes the government do contribute to children’s funerals
there’s actually all sorts of grants for funerals provided by the government.

He's been attacked before, and the murderer got their hands on a metal bar.

So yes they knew he was a target and they knew he was in with other violent men. So yes they failed to protect him

But I don't grudge his poor mum a bit of compensation, she's suffered too because of him.

Thanks I didn't know that. I'll count my blessings its not something I've ever had to deal with.

But they’d still have to cremate him first.

Both families received compensation. It was something like 11k each

He died while under care of the state

Her son brutally murdered two young girls imagine having to live with that ?
Than he was also brutally murdered in prison
I Won't lose any sleep over what happened to him but I have some compassion for his mother .

Her suffering will have been very different to the girls parents but I suspect if suffering could be quantified she’d be found to have suffered just as much in her own way.

She might not have the money or maybe that’s all the money she has and she needs to put it aside for her own funeral. I don’t begrudge this in any way. Tax payers money has to cremate people sometimes, it can’t really be avoided.

He Wasn’t. He was assaulted in prison. He didn’t die in prison.