AIBU to question why taxpayers should fund Ian Huntley’s cremation?

[PassingStranger]

Can't Ian Huntleys mother who was at his bedside and in touch with him, pay for his cremation.
Why should the tax payer pay?
He's already cost the taxpayer loads.🤔😫

Op I truly hope you're not a parent, if you're somehow assuming that his mum visiting him in person equates to a parent sharing responsibility for his crimes. He was a murderer. She also carried him. She's said in in the past - after a previous attack - that if he hadn't lived, it would have been a blessing, as there would have been some closure. The child you had hopes and dreams for, and that's what he turned out to do.

She is not responsible for his crimes
She is not responsible for him in death
She is entitled to have complicated feelings

Why? No-one forces them to take on this sort of job. Presumably some business is better than none.

My back of an envelope calculation is that it would cost each taxpayer approximately 0.0077pence each. Assuming that they pay out the full £3k, which they might not.

Who says they have? I'm sure no one is stopping her paying. But the state allowed him to be murdered in prison, the least they can do us post for a badd so hc cremstion.

i don't know why you think she is being stopped from Paying??

I actually think her situation would be harder to bear. Imagine knowing that your own child had inflicted so much pain on so many.

Her son murdered 2 innocent girls, he doesn't deserve a publicly funded cremation - I'm with his daughter, "flush him down the toilet".

It's just a body. It won't be giving off evil vibes.

What do you think should happen to the body?

Stop making things up. I never said because she visits she was responsible . Weird, what you've read into it.

But what does that actually mean? Presumably you realise that there are public health issues with not disposing of dead bodies appropriately?

You said she should pay because she visited?
And that no other family were expected to because they didn't.

What else did you mean by that post, if I read it wrong?

Yes well that isn’t going to happen though. We bury/cremate our dead, whatever their crimes. Let’s just rejoice in the fact he’s no longer here.

How would you flush him down the toilet, pre cremation, exactly?

She can't be forced to. She'll say have the basic one and that's it. She's not legally responsible for anything. Why make this thread anyway?

There are laws which prevent that.

As a mother who adores her children I fully agree. If one of my children murdered anyone unless self defence I would never want any contact again ! The shame of knowing I had produced such a vile creature would destroy me forever.

OP. No one with an ounce of intelligence - cognitive and/or emotional - is making a fuss over the state paying for a minimialist cremation for a criminal who died in prison. Making a fuss over this doesn't make you good, righteous, passionate, caring, moral or whatever the hell you think it is you are demonstrating by taking such a malicious stance.

Yeah that's definitely the weird bit in this whole thread

You know he can't literally be flushed down the toilet, or thrown into a skip, or fed to safari park lions. The body needs hygienic disposal, for the good of society. That's it. His mother's assets, or lack of them, are none of our business.

It's awful to think she could get compensation, not necessarily, but possible and on top of that a free cremation. .

I hope if she gets compensation she might donate it to a charity, possibly for murder victims/violence against women etc.

As we know he didn't just murder the girls. He was a controlling bully, and had committed other crimes against females too.

The disposal of his body needs to happen and the state is responsible for him, not his mother. Stop making something over nothing.

I googled about his mum visiting, and the only information I could find was about the times she has visited him after attacks (this, and the previous when he'd had his throat slit). Doing that wouldn't mean she supported him. She may have done of course, but on the flip side she may have wanted to be involved in decisions as NOK, or even to be there to witness if he died.

I think it's a bit crass to declare what you'd do in that situation. It's so incomprehensible as a parent that I don't think any of us could really know how we'd actually react.

Your opinion. It's very debatable as proved.

It just sounds a bit stupid tbh.

I mean, there is a dead body. The state is responsible for the dead body. The state needs to dispose of the dead body appropriately.

It isn't rocket science.

Because you don’t have to pay for your adult child’s cremation / funeral. She’s damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t in this situation. She once held him in her arms and loved him, surely you can have empathy for her and separate what he chose to do from her as a human being? There’s never been even a suggestion that she did anything ‘wrong’ or covered for him in any way. If she gave him a remotely sentimental or above bare minimum send off she would be public enemy number one. I imagine someone has told her this is the best way to do it.

Because if someone dies with no money the local council pays for a very basic funeral

in this case he was murdered in prison, he has no money and who knows if his mother has, and anyway it’s not her responsibility, he’s over 18, therefore an adult, with no estate to pay for it

as others have said, small price to pay compared to the annual cost of keeping him locked up