AIBU to expect job adverts to include salary ranges upfront?

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Do you agree that the salary range should be posted on every job hiring ad so that applicants' time is not wasted?

It’s so annoying!! Such a waste of time applying for jobs to withdraw when you find out it’s shit pay

Completely agree with you!!!!

I'm hiring for my team at the moment. Could be anywhere from £50k to £80k depending on location and experience. My company won't think kindly of me if I list that salary range and everyone applying wants £80k+.Applicants wanting 80k will have to prove to me that they are worth it

If I had the skills and experience to be commanding the higher end of that salary range I’d probably not bother applying if you couldn’t give me an idea up front as to what I might be earning. Life is too short to be applying for jobs that you have no idea what they will pay you.

So basically when employers don’t bother posting a salary range, they will almost certainly be missing out on some of the better candidates.

Absolutely no harm in putting a salary range and stating that you expect candidates to start at the lower end of the range unless they can demonstrate competence in specific niche skills that would otherwise be worked towards whilst in post.

UANBU.

When I see "competitive" in a job ad...🙄

Having the salary /salary range in job ads is being made mandatory in the EU this year.

We pay the market rate. People in the industry know the expected salary and (usually) ask for a reasonable level within those parameters.

🤷🏼‍♀️ you’re obviously comfortable with your choices but I’m just saying that from my perspective, any employer that won’t be clear with me from the outset about what they’re willing to pay isn’t one I’d waste my time with and I doubt I’m in the minority.

No-one in my industry does that. We'd look odd as a business if we did. People in the industry understand that.

I think certain states in the US like California and New York need to publish salary bands for roles.
I’m not American or based in the US, but speaking to my US friends in those states, they say it just becomes Mickey Mouse numbers as the salary bands are so wide and ‘catch all’ that it doesn’t have a big significance when actually applying and you may as well be in the same boat as not knowing.

But I suppose you can at least give your salary expectation within the band, but I am guessing most people would just go for the top band.

Totally agree. Especially if they ask you your current salary during the application process.

I’d argue that still doesn’t make it ok. Salary transparency should be widely promoted across the board. Because if we re honest, the reason why employers don’t advertise a decent salary range is because they’re wanting to get away with paying the lowest possible that an employee will accept.

That question always irks me!

I had a quick look for an example. A role at Apple in California has over a 100k USD salary band range.

https://jobs.apple.com/en-gb/details/200649830-0670/head-of-strategy-and-business-planning-apple-tv?team=MKTG

And they don’t want current staff, maybe promoted internally and lowballed, to know what they pay external hires.

I just don’t bother applying for anything that doesn’t have at least a salary range listed.

I don’t want to work for an organisation that can’t be transparent about something so absolutely fundamental. II mean - it’s work. We get paid for it.

Especially pathetic when the job ends up being for a perfectly ordinary salary. It’s like putting a bog standard terrace house on the market as ‘POA’.

Get over yourselves!

This is being banned in the EU too.

Government roles are really bad for asking this ime!

These things are true and, as an employee, I am far from immune from them.

At the same time, there is not an infinite pot of money in our business to hire and pay people.

How do they know that if you won't even confirm the range in the advert?

I'm not going to waste my time applying for a role that it appears matches my specialist skills and experience only to find out right at the last second that whilst they've advertised for an expert, they're actually planning to take the piss and offer a junior admin wage on a endlessly rolling zero hours contract so they can wait until a man turns up.

They know because we are a serious business with a serious reputation in the industry working with serious clients. We wouldn't have our position in our market place if we couldn't attract people with genuinely competitive salaries

Don't tell them the truth.

I won't apply for any role that doesn't advertise a salary. I once got 3 interviews deep into an application process for a job at a "competitive salary" within my industry, at a similar, if not slightly higher level than my existing role. It got to the offer stage and the salary offered was 38k, I was earning 75k at the time. It was a huge waste of time for everyone involved.

Looked at a job lately. No dalary in advert.
I asked.
Was told "competitive".

I 'll be the judge of that.

Told them I wouldnt be applying unless I knew it was more or equivalent to my current job.

I had a phone interview with one listing competitive salary. It was minimum wage

When I was much younger I asked a person senior in my company why they didn't state the salary in job adverts.
I was told "we don't want people applying just for the money..."

Its work.. I only come here to get paid. 😳

It’s shit not to quote a salary range.
You’ll be missing lots of great potential applicants by not stating it.