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International women’s day. Sick day or go in?

57 replies

Sickorno · 08/03/2026 11:02

I want to start by saying that I don’t have strong feelings towards trans people.

I believe if you were born a woman then you will always be a woman and vice versa.
I believe in women’s only spaces.

But apart from that I’m not really bothered.
If you want to wear a dress and grow your hair long then crack on.

However I have been struggling the past few days with my workplace.

Firstly, it started with asking for donations of women’s clothing and make up for the trans residents.
This wound me up but I just said I had nothing to donate.

But we were told on Friday that on Monday there will be a celebration of international women’s day where the trans women residents will receive a party and gift packages.
The male residents and female staff won’t get the same and therefore won’t be celebrated.

I have been wound up all weekend and I genuinely don’t want to go in tomorrow.

Am I going mad or does this seem so unfair?

My AIBU - should I go sick tomorrow?

YABU - no don’t call in sick, go and do your job.
YANBU - yes call in sick so you don’t have to deal with it.

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LittleGreenDuck · 08/03/2026 11:56

Any of those trans women in prison due to committing crimes against women? The irony would be lost, no doubt.

Sickorno · 08/03/2026 11:56

GrumpyInsomniac · 08/03/2026 11:40

If they had decided to celebrate IWD separately for female staff, and also done something for the trans inmates, I think I’d be fine with it. I’m assuming it’s a man who came up with this genius idea, and didn’t think those born female deserved celebrating also?

But I think I would also be looking at whether they celebrated IMD in November for the rest of the prison population. If not, it’s purely performative bollocks.

No it was a women (it was actually 2 women who I feel may be trying to compete with each other).

I would actually feel better if it was a man in some ways.

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Sickorno · 08/03/2026 11:58

LittleGreenDuck · 08/03/2026 11:56

Any of those trans women in prison due to committing crimes against women? The irony would be lost, no doubt.

At least 95% of the trans prisoners are in for committing crimes against women and/or children.

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Melisand · 08/03/2026 11:59

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SabrinaThwaite · 08/03/2026 12:00

The irony of celebrating IWD in a men’s prison where those that are being celebrated have committed crimes against women and children.

Sickorno · 08/03/2026 12:00

79Beastie · 08/03/2026 11:47

A prison?? They shouldn't be allowed to have any celebrations. They're in prison for punishment not for fucking parties.

I initially didn’t want to mention that it was a prison as I didn’t want to sway any opinions but in some ways I feel sorry for the men who are not trans.

The ‘trans’ are getting special treatment and being made a fuss of, whilst the others aren’t.

Its sending the message that if they pretend they’re trans then they get special treatment.

And they do, they get extra packages, extra allowance, single cells and single showers - and now this.

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Haveyouanyjam · 08/03/2026 12:01

As someone who has also worked in men’s prison, has no issue with celebrating trans women as part of IWD generally and is pro rehabilitation for prisoners, this is ridiculous.

If it was a group of trans prisoners putting something on for themselves, fine. But that’s the bloody limit of it. If anything it should be an opportunity to shed light on the poor treatment of women by society amongst a cohort who may benefit from learning this more than others…(the cohort being the men in prison overall, not specifically the trans prisoners)

Sickorno · 08/03/2026 12:04

CornishPorsche · 08/03/2026 11:47

Speak to the POA or your union ASAP today. I'd love to know which governor has pronounced this as acceptable.

Also speak to the SEEN team at the Cabinet Office. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/civil-service-staff-networks/seen-network - there isn't a HMPPS team specifically yet.

It was in an all staff email and so the governors must all be on board as they had to ask permission for the celebration.

It makes you feel like you can’t say anything else you’ll be seen as being prejudice.

One of my colleagues was pulled in because they apparently weren’t treating a trans person fairly (giving them special treatment) and is now walking on eggshells over it.

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Sickorno · 08/03/2026 12:06

MaggieBsBoat · 08/03/2026 11:44

Go. Take some redacted (for ID purposes) photos and take to the press. Bloody ridiculous.

You can’t have cameras or phones etc in prisons and can’t access the emails on the outside.

Else I’d be very tempted.

I am hoping some of the non trans prisoners speak up but then they’d likely get in trouble for hate speech or won’t be listened to.

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dubbie · 08/03/2026 12:09

GardenGaff · 08/03/2026 11:38

Where do you work that has enough trans women residents to make it a party?

Edit: X post. Ah a prison. No, would I fuck take part in celebrating male prisoners on International Women’s Day. In fact, I’d be going to the press about it.

Edited

THIS. Please go to the press.

JudgeJ · 08/03/2026 12:10

LittleBearPad · 08/03/2026 11:40

I’m not sure anyone in a prison needs to be celebrated.

Especially not at my, as a tax payer. expense.

JudgeJ · 08/03/2026 12:11

Sickorno · 08/03/2026 12:06

You can’t have cameras or phones etc in prisons and can’t access the emails on the outside.

Else I’d be very tempted.

I am hoping some of the non trans prisoners speak up but then they’d likely get in trouble for hate speech or won’t be listened to.

If you speak to some of your 'residents' I'm sure you'll find a phone or a camera!

Notmeagain24 · 08/03/2026 12:13

Gosh OP that would really irritate me. Virtue signalling in a workplace is totally unnecessary - especially in the environment you work in!!!!

I did vote YABU though - not because I think it's right, but because I think you should go in and just crack on with your job. Engage as little as possible with the activities - your opinion to not be happy with the 'exclusiveness' of this supposed 'inclusion' is perfectly valid and you have the right to work and express that.

pouletvous · 08/03/2026 12:17

How many trans prisoners are there?

Im very confused by it all

why the why?

ilovesooty · 08/03/2026 12:19

JudgeJ · 08/03/2026 12:11

If you speak to some of your 'residents' I'm sure you'll find a phone or a camera!

In which case she would be disciplined for using it and rightly so.

Either you express your opinion through the appropriate channels or you go in and participate as little as you can.

The OP is not sick.

TigTails · 08/03/2026 12:24

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Sickorno · 08/03/2026 12:25

JudgeJ · 08/03/2026 12:11

If you speak to some of your 'residents' I'm sure you'll find a phone or a camera!

There will definitely be some lying around haha but then I’d have to report it and if I didn’t then my argument wouldn’t be taken seriously.

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Sickorno · 08/03/2026 12:28

Notmeagain24 · 08/03/2026 12:13

Gosh OP that would really irritate me. Virtue signalling in a workplace is totally unnecessary - especially in the environment you work in!!!!

I did vote YABU though - not because I think it's right, but because I think you should go in and just crack on with your job. Engage as little as possible with the activities - your opinion to not be happy with the 'exclusiveness' of this supposed 'inclusion' is perfectly valid and you have the right to work and express that.

Yes it’s the virtue signalling that I can’t stand.
And the fact that they’re getting so risk treatment for pretending to be women whilst the actual women who work there actually have to deal with the hardships of being women.

I hate taking sick days (especially if I need to use them in the future) and so I think I’m going to go in and just pretend I’m really busy.

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Sickorno · 08/03/2026 12:28

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What makes you think that?

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Sickorno · 08/03/2026 17:48

Thank you to everyone who has given advice.

The thread was temporarily deleted due to reports but I have spoken to MNHQ and they have kindly allowed it to be reinstated.

The fact that it was reported/deleted is exactly why I am concerned over the issue as I feel saying anything can negatively impact me.

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 08/03/2026 17:54

Sickorno · 08/03/2026 11:58

At least 95% of the trans prisoners are in for committing crimes against women and/or children.

Yeah I wouldn’t be going in for this.

bigboykitty · 08/03/2026 18:06

Honestly, ring in sick and say "women's problems" 😘

Sickorno · 08/03/2026 18:07

bigboykitty · 08/03/2026 18:06

Honestly, ring in sick and say "women's problems" 😘

😂😂😂

That made me laugh!! 🤭

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TestingTestingWonTooFree · 08/03/2026 18:09

This is outrageous.

CruCru · 08/03/2026 18:09

Honestly? Yes, go in and say that you are really busy. Presumably taking a sick day puts pressure on the other prison wardens and makes the prison unsafe for the prisoners.

Is it really not okay to say that celebrating IWD for people who’ve committed crimes against women and children is distasteful?

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