To think supernanny doesn’t need a come back

[Inthenameoflove]

I’ve noticed that Jo Frost is on a bit of a PR wave at the moment. AIBU to think her brand of ‘parenting’ advice can stay in the 00s.

I’ve always found the idea of parenting experts without children somewhat suspect. To me it’s very different than being a teacher or working with children generally which I don’t think you need to be a parent to do well.

I don’t enjoy her lectures/rants about things I suspect she has very little knowledge of.

I also find it really morally questionable putting struggling kids on TV - immortalised in their hardest moment forever.

Her not having children isn’t suspect in the slightest, my friend is the most incredible doula (birth & pp), adores kids and is exceptional with everyone’s children, and she neither has nor wants her own.
I don’t think kids should be filmed this way, but that’s the parents choice, not hers. I won’t watch it but there’s way worse stuff out there.

Weirdly they’ve been playing episodes in my kids classes the last few weeks. She, and I, have no idea why 🤣

I like her too!

I do the naughty step. It does work!

I love Jo Frost I think had lots of practical ideas for handling behaviour and helping with sleep. You still lots of poor behaviour of children in public so I’m sure many parents would appreciate her ideas.

Judging by the behaviour I see of some children she can’t come back soon enough.

You are not wrong that the type of approach and the way the show was made and presented is not appropriate now.

But I voted YABU for your shitty comment about her status having children herself. Look around anywhere anytime and you will see parents who are completely rubbish. To say that is more important than someone who has studied and worked with children is bonkers.

The back to bed thing became a game in my house. That would end when LO ran into a door or something.

As a person with no children i enjoyed her show even if i disagreed sometimes. As a parent of 2 ND sons i find her horrifying. I do admit though an outside veiw can helo and i did like she was against corporeal punishment.

Oh gosh I think she is absolutely awful, in every conceivable way.

Just no.

It didn’t work on my son either. He ended up laughing his head off, getting more and more wound up while I had a complete mental breakdown and cried. His paediatrician laughed when I told him this and said “well as he’s clearly on the spectrum and I’ve just identified he has a sleep disorder, I'm not at all surprised”. This was back when I knew zero about ASD in my defence.

Lol!

Yes absolutely! Her posts have come up on my facebook afew times (i don't folllow her, but engage with parenting pages, which is probably why)
She seems to have changed her tune and perspective to be more child focused, however has not to my knowledge owned the past mistakes, yet sadly her parenting 'advice' influenced a whole generation (and more, as some still use it today) of parents to adopt a very disciplinarian stance with isolation techniques like the naughty step etc, which have been proven to be emotionally damaging, which is pretty unforgivable IMO.

That absolutely sounds familiar. I couldn't get the covers over him before he was sprinting out of bed.

And yes ASD was suspected at one point

Mine wasn’t distressed. He would laugh in my face and continue doing whatever I was telling him not to do, sometimes even more enthusiastically- sometimes what he was doing would have endangered himself. Time outs worked to correct that in the end.

I tried positive parenting techniques at the time, but he didn’t have the concentration to be able to listen to a word and he would continuously run away (which added to whatever mania he was in). So many of the examples just didn’t work with him before the age of 5. The time out taught him to stay on the spot, and once he calmed down we would talk about whatever the situation was and then have some cuddles after and forget about it. It took a lot of effort to get to the point where he learnt that he would be placed back on the spot until we had a discussion about his behaviour.

I only used time-out between the ages of 3-5 (he didn’t need it after, I was able to use natural consequences instead as he could listen and comprehend it). Something had to be done to address his behaviour. He was the type of preschooler who was on top of the tables in restaurants throwing things at other people’s tables, it was pure hell. I expect if I had just rumbled on then he would have been completely out of control by the age he is now (7 years old). I saw a marked difference after implementing time-outs.

I think you should listen to her podcast episode with Paul C Brunson on his series called 'we need to talk'. Very enlightening. One of her quotes is 'do I need to have children to be able to help parents and children, much like does an oncologist need to have had cancer to be able to help a patient with cancer.' And I agree.

Jo Frost has zero qualifications and will say anything controversial to stay relevant. Her methods are shit and tbh most of the advice she gave out about routines on SN were generic and common sense.
Shes also really fucking annoying

Whether she births a child or not is irrelevant she was a nanny for years so most likely spent more time with the children she cared for then their actual parents. I have a cousin who hardly ever sees her kids they are with one set of grandparents all week why she works and they stay at other grandparents at the weekend as she needs a break from being a single mum and this is the sort of shit she comes out with.

But clearly there are a significant amount of adults who have no common sense as we have a generation of brats and clueless parents

Would you like them played by actors?

She seems to have changed her tune and perspective to be more child focused, however has not to my knowledge owned the past mistakes, yet sadly her parenting 'advice' influenced a whole generation (and more, as some still use it today) of parents to adopt a very disciplinarian stance with isolation techniques like the naughty step etc, which have been proven to be emotionally damaging, which is pretty unforgivable IMO.

I managed to raise two emotional healthy and successful sons by taking advice.
The naughty step, or in our case, the stair in the hall, was used to make them calm down and reflect for a few moments and then we would talk about why things had gone wrong. We would always finish with a hug and I'll tell them we've moved on.

I dont believe there is much wrong with having time out to think about why people are upset by your behaviour. It needs to be used sparingly and for a short time though and the rest of the house needs to be calm so tbe child isnt feeling left out of fun things their siblings maybe doing.

I'd rather have a child with consistent boundaries in place than have some of the children who run wild who I have to see when i do home visits.
I have been called a cunt by children under 5 years old more times than anyone should because they dont want me to have their mums attention. I know it is learned behaviour but it goes unchecked. In a couple of years it will be normal to abuse teachers and anyone who challenges them to do somethjng they dont like.
Thanks to a bit of common sense and watching Jo Frost to guide through challenging situations ny two sons have ended up decent blokes and havent suffered emotional damage from their deserved time outs!

We did time outs it really worked and no long term damaged cause. Its much better then parents now who do the do nothing approach as they don't want to hurt their children's feelings.

This for sure!

I think many families who are struggling could do with Super Nanny’s help. I’d love to see her work her magic again.

I think her techniques were fine. She was always so warm and came over as genuinely caring with both the children and tbeir parents. Her calm and consistent aporoach was spot on. The kuds basically sat a few minutes nearby on a designated spot near their oarents, apologised, hugged and moved on. That really is not 'harsh'. 😂

do you mean attachment theory or attachment parenting?
Attachment parenting is just a style of parenting. It is not the only way.