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AIBU?

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To call him out? Male friend - new dad

52 replies

Ellbee83 · 05/03/2026 16:56

I've been pals with Ben (32) for about 6 years. Not super close but we message maybe a couple of times a week, care about how the other is doing and are objective 2nd opinions on issues with work, relationships, whatever.

He and his partner (S) married last year and they welcomed their 1st child at the beginning of January 2026.
I kept in touch with him, checking he was ok, that the baby was doing well, etc.
Whenever I spoke with him, I always asked how his wife was doing, sort of discreetly checking he was stepping up and supporting her.

We messaged yesterday and I asked how S was doing. He responded with a 2-minute voice note (don't even!) which, instead of saying S is doing well/or not, motherhood suits her/or not, she's struggling or doing amazingly or whatever - which is what I was asking - he launched straight into how great she was doing in that her body was almost back to normal and she'd almost lost all weight and was looking really good, etc.
Followed by grumbling about feeling like 'a spectator' and further grumbling about how up until now, coming home from work to the baby has been a lovely experience for him, but lately his wife is hormonal and moody and it's getting him down.

Now, I don't have children. But I have nieces, nephews, friends with children, and I'm switched on enough to have a decent understanding of how this time is for a new mum.
I also understand that a new dad needs and deserves support but... Oh my word, I was so mad with him!!
And I let him know, nicely, but in no uncertain terms.

So, was IBU?
His response was a bit snarky. Which may just have been guilt.

Should I have just kept my gob shut and been a sympathetic ear that he probably needs?
I'm his friend rather than S's.

From everything else I know, he's a good, dedicated, hands-on dad.
But it pissed me off no end that he reduced how well his wife is doing post-partum to how good her body looks, as well as a bit of a pity party about how rough he's having it.

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Motomum23 · 05/03/2026 16:59

Hopefully it's the kick up the bum he needs to realise his crappy behaviour - or it's the last time you'll get any version of truth out of him for fear of a telling off.

Kingdomofsleep · 05/03/2026 17:00

He sounds quite unlikeable. Poor S.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/03/2026 17:02

Sounds like he deserved every word of it.

Twat.

Portugal1987 · 05/03/2026 17:10

Thank you from all mums for telling him - my heart would break if my DH would say something like this to a friend. Like mums don't have enough sh*t to deal with

PeopleLikeColdplayYouCantTrustPeopleJez · 05/03/2026 17:19

You weren’t wrong and hopefully he’s having a good long think about his attitude.

JHound · 05/03/2026 17:21

You were absolutely right.

Ellbee83 · 05/03/2026 17:23

Thanks for the replies, I've genuinely been feeling guilty about having a go at him. Because, as I said, obviously it's a difficult time for everyone, new dads included.
I tried to make it constructive but I'm not sure I managed it! 😂

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Evaka · 05/03/2026 17:23

Good for you. What a pig.

CinnamonBuns67 · 05/03/2026 17:38

Sometimes the best way you can turn up as a friend is to call them out when they are out of order. I think you did the right thing by not only your friend but his partner too.

Abd80 · 05/03/2026 21:50

his poor wife what awful things to say
you are absolutely right to call him out

CheeseWisely · 05/03/2026 21:54

You were absolutely right to call him out OP, and I hope it gives him some pause for thought.

MCF86 · 05/03/2026 22:07

Ellbee83 · 05/03/2026 17:23

Thanks for the replies, I've genuinely been feeling guilty about having a go at him. Because, as I said, obviously it's a difficult time for everyone, new dads included.
I tried to make it constructive but I'm not sure I managed it! 😂

Friends absolutely should call each other out for being dickheads though!

blubberyboo · 05/03/2026 22:09

You are trying to save his marriage. He should be grateful and listen.

Are you close to his wife. Could you offer her support

PollyBell · 05/03/2026 22:20

It may be something his partner was going on about herself, but this seem to me that is is more about him not acting the way you decided to so had a go at him because he did not fit into the box you put him in

Women call ''well I called him out so will give myself a medal'' I call it controlling, he did not anything abusive or dangerous sure he didnt answer the way you had in your head but I dont see the issue

Women can turn any situation into them being right and other women can go along with it because of the 'sisterhood' of all women have to think the same, but it doesnt make the man wrong

and no before I get the snarky ''you must be a man"" I am not

nondrinker1985 · 05/03/2026 22:22

Why are you friends

IrishSelkie · 05/03/2026 22:31

First of all you’re not his wife’s friend and you have no business grilling her husband about how good a mother she is and her mental or physical well being beyond superficial “she’s fine” stuff. I would be absolutely livid if my husbands friend of a few years felt entitled to information from him about how well motherhood is “suiting me” or whether I am “struggling“

And how do you know that getting her body back wasn’t important to S? It was to me after my first child and there is nothing wrong with that.

I think he handled your incredibly intrusive questions perfectly. For all you know he was with his wife and discussed what was ok to talk to you about. I’d want my husband to only talk about his issues to his friends, that’s what they are there for. The circle of support goes outwards. Him leaning on you for support instead of whinging to his wife is exactly what is supposed to happen and doesn’t indicate he isn’t supporting his wife.

IrishSelkie · 05/03/2026 22:34

Portugal1987 · 05/03/2026 17:10

Thank you from all mums for telling him - my heart would break if my DH would say something like this to a friend. Like mums don't have enough sh*t to deal with

No thank you from this mam. I would not have my husband gossiping behind my back about my mothering to some Ginny up the lane.

WhateverMate · 05/03/2026 22:36

Portugal1987 · 05/03/2026 17:10

Thank you from all mums for telling him - my heart would break if my DH would say something like this to a friend. Like mums don't have enough sh*t to deal with

What the fuck?

Please don't speak for me.

I'd be angry and I'd pull my husband up on this but my 'heart wouldn't break' thank you 🙄

Portugal1987 · 05/03/2026 23:06

WhateverMate · 05/03/2026 22:36

What the fuck?

Please don't speak for me.

I'd be angry and I'd pull my husband up on this but my 'heart wouldn't break' thank you 🙄

No need to take it so personal.
I said it would break “my” heart.

direct your what the fuck to the dad

CaragianettE · 05/03/2026 23:12

Are you male or female OP?

You sound a little bit over invested in what’s going on in their lives, maybe put a bit more focus on your own?

outerspacepotato · 05/03/2026 23:17

It's only 8 weeks later and his focus is wow, she's lost the weight and looking good but complaining she's moody 8 weeks post partum!

What a fucking ass🤡

Clonakilla · 05/03/2026 23:23

Are you married OP?

My practice when single was to take a big step back from married male friends who complained about their wives to me. I found it led to uncomfortable situations in which some married men did not behave very well.

IrishSelkie · 05/03/2026 23:27

Now, I don't have children. But I have nieces, nephews, friends with children, and I'm switched on enough to have a decent understanding of how this time is for a new mum.

I find this hilarious. You have no children but felt the need to parentsplain to him.

WhateverMate · 06/03/2026 00:06

Portugal1987 · 05/03/2026 23:06

No need to take it so personal.
I said it would break “my” heart.

direct your what the fuck to the dad

I’m directing it at you since you’ve set yourself up as the spokeswoman for all mums.

Ellbee83 · 06/03/2026 10:01

Thanks again for the replies and I appreciate the differing opinions, food for thought I guess.

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