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Some of the Iranian protesters deaths were fake

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Ipendem · 04/03/2026 07:00

So we heard 30,000 in the news but a lot of people are coming out saying that they were counted in the dead but didn’t die.

Seeing their name and face in the news.

Below are the videos they posted saying they are alive. It’s surreal.

So how many were actually killed, and can we trust any published number?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRmYs7YQ/

vm.tiktok.com/ZNRmYV4cq/

OP posts:
randomchap · 04/03/2026 07:53

Are you trying to cast doubt on the whole thing? and if so, why?

CautiousLurker2 · 04/03/2026 07:58

TheFilliesWillRiseAgain · 04/03/2026 07:12

On the one hand there is a lot of evidence that there was a massacre of tens of thousands of Iranians in January and February by their own regime.

On the other there's the Iranian regime that lies about everything for propaganda and TikTok videos..

And in one of those hands there is the high probability that some victims were misidentified. So, this woman didn’t die. Doesn’t mean they didn’t kill the rest of the 30,000 or another woman they thought was this one?

I lose interest when ‘TikTok’ is used in any sentence, let alone one purported to be reporting ‘news’.

tutugogo · 04/03/2026 07:58

I think I trust the guardian article more, they use proper news gathering techniques. Individual stories can be wrong eg someone wrongly reported as killed but on a larger level the mainstream news is correct

HoskinsChoice · 04/03/2026 08:00

Ipendem · 04/03/2026 07:15

Then get your phone out and google. There are loads of sites reporting on it. I can’t hand everything to you. Or even watch the video the woman posted herself

If you 'get your phone out and Google' stuff, you will find literally everything can be 'proved'. It will 'prove' the earth is flat and 'prove' the earth is round. One is clearly ridiculous but there's plenty of flat earthers around that believe and so the money driven scammers will meet the vulnerable/idiots' needs by providing the 'proof' for them to' lap up.

Don't believe everything you read, particularly on obscure websites or ones where the content is user created (AKA unverified) and where clicks make money. Your life would be much happier if you step away from the Internet.

HarlanCobenDogshit · 04/03/2026 08:01

There's folks out there that think the extermination of the Jews in WWll was fake.

Doesn't make it true.

HarlanCobenDogshit · 04/03/2026 08:03

TorroFerney · 04/03/2026 07:40

Is it not more a thinly veiled anti Israel post? That’s what I’d assumed. I’ve not opened the link but is this an Israeli woman ?

It's not even thinly veiled....

HarlanCobenDogshit · 04/03/2026 08:05

Anywaus OP, I'd love to hear your stance on the Irainian regime.

What is your accepted death count number from all of the murdered Iranians since 1979?

Ipendem · 04/03/2026 08:05

It’s in real newspapers that you can check yourself. If the internet is so bad how did you get online to comment on this post.

OP posts:
bumblingbovine49 · 04/03/2026 08:11

Ipendem · 04/03/2026 07:29

Did you read the title? I said some of the deaths were fake.
So yes I’m still correct.
At least two women have caught themselves in the news being counted as dead.
How many don’t watch the news but have their image and name taken without knowing? You don’t think that’s strange

Look, do you expect perfect counting, reporting and admin during a period of chaos and confusion.? Do you expect things to be neat and tidy and all true or all false?

The reports of people being reported dead when they are not, are most probably true but what point are you making and what conclusion are you drawing from this?

You have chosen confrontational language saying the deaths were 'faked'. Yes, sometimes people tell lies for nepharious reasons, but sometimes they make honest mistakes. These individual stories could be either of these things.

On their own, or even if a few more similar stories come out, what they are not is proof that the Iran government did not murder massive numbers of its own citizens.

Frankly, I'd be surprised if every single desth reported was true in a time of confusion, confrontation and chaos.

Never2many · 04/03/2026 08:15

There are names in the book in auschwitz of people who didn’t die there. My DS’ partner is Jewish and her great grandparents are in there, except they weren’t killed.

When there are large numbers involved, and if you were in the right place at the wrong time it is inevitable that misreporting will happen.

There were in fact tens of thousands of misreported deaths in Auschwitz, not because they were fake but because it was always going to happen that way.

Similarly there will be deaths of people reported in 9/11, the tsunami, any major world event.

That doesn’t mean those events didn’t happen or that those deaths were faked.

But it does provide ammunition for conspiracy halfwits who believe in the power of TikTok, most of which is manned by AI and will tell you whatever you want to see.

ilovesooty · 04/03/2026 08:17

Nevermind17 · 04/03/2026 07:38

The very idea that there are people out there using TikTok as a credible news source makes me feel like giving up on mankind.

I can't believe anyone with any maturity or intelligence relies on Tik Tok for their information.

Never2many · 04/03/2026 08:18

ilovesooty · 04/03/2026 08:17

I can't believe anyone with any maturity or intelligence relies on Tik Tok for their information.

They don’t.

I.e. anyone who tells you they rely on TikTok has neither maturity or inteligence. ;)

TheFilliesWillRiseAgain · 04/03/2026 08:20

If it's real and in newspapers then do please provide showing credible evidence that it's real instead of a link to TikTok videos.

And feel free to answer the question: What is the number of deaths that's acceptable to you?

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 04/03/2026 08:25

I am fairly sure that for each person incorrectly reported dead, there will be several as yet unnoticed or unidentified or uncounted.

Ahaj · 04/03/2026 08:26

That doesn’t show the number of deaths was fake, it just show mistaken identity and sloppy journalism for a couple of people.
the second person was first posted by a twitter account with the wrong picture and then by places like RT so just sloppy journalism and shows the negatives on relying like stuff on twitter and shitty “news” places like rt

ColdAsAWitches · 04/03/2026 08:27

Ipendem · 04/03/2026 07:29

Did you read the title? I said some of the deaths were fake.
So yes I’m still correct.
At least two women have caught themselves in the news being counted as dead.
How many don’t watch the news but have their image and name taken without knowing? You don’t think that’s strange

Did you think exactly 30,000 people were killed? Or do you think, in the absence of people being able to confirm every single person in a volatile situation, it was a rounding of what they thought was a good representation of the scale of what happened? 2 people out of that being wrong doesn't matter.

ilovesooty · 04/03/2026 08:27

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 04/03/2026 08:25

I am fairly sure that for each person incorrectly reported dead, there will be several as yet unnoticed or unidentified or uncounted.

Definitely.

Weareoutofwine · 04/03/2026 08:29

Thank you for prompting an important discussion and encouraging us all to look at this. The pursuit of truth is an admirable business.

I've found multiple verifiable sources and reports. Ive tried to include a mix of media - eNGOs, centrist, ledt leaning and right learning. You know... for a little sprinkling of objectivity. I hope you take the time to look at them. I'm afraid you will need a concentration span that hasn't been addled by tik tok. But I'm sure your desire for the truth will drive you on to read the following (in no particular order):

https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/01/16/iran-growing-evidence-of-countrywide-massacres

https://phr.org/news/iranian-physicians-testimonies-highlight-extent-and-severity-of-government-attacks-on-protesters/

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2026/01/what-happened-at-the-protests-in-iran/

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601255198

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/02/25/opinion/iran-protests-doctors.html

BBC News - Machine guns to machetes: Weapons that massacred thousands in Iran
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mgndkklvmo

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2026/02/28/iranians-will-never-forget-khameneis-reign-of-terror/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/02/04/hid-in-a-morgue-with-a-severed-leg-to-survive-irans-regime/

https://news.sky.com/video/iranian-rapper-describes-massacre-during-blackout-13495640

https://news.sky.com/story/what-do-we-know-about-the-number-of-people-killed-in-iran-protests-13501129

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/ng-interactive/2026/feb/06/rasht-massacre-protests-iran-timeline

Or for the sake of brevity, in Tikky Tokky language... TL:DR - Shame. On. You.

Fires are lit as protesters demonstrate in Tehran, Iran, on January 8, 2026.

Iran: Growing Evidence of Countrywide Massacres

Iran’s security forces have carried out mass killings of protesters after nationwide protests escalated on January 8, 2026. Thousands of protesters and bystanders are believed to have been killed.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/01/16/iran-growing-evidence-of-countrywide-massacres

PandoraSocks · 04/03/2026 08:38

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 04/03/2026 08:25

I am fairly sure that for each person incorrectly reported dead, there will be several as yet unnoticed or unidentified or uncounted.

For sure.

What are you hoping for by starting this thread @Ipendem ?

Itsmetheflamingo · 04/03/2026 08:39

I think propaganda in a war is normal and expected from both sides. Of course the public should avoid taking the situation as reported as gospel.

HappyFace2025 · 04/03/2026 08:50

Ipendem · 04/03/2026 07:00

So we heard 30,000 in the news but a lot of people are coming out saying that they were counted in the dead but didn’t die.

Seeing their name and face in the news.

Below are the videos they posted saying they are alive. It’s surreal.

So how many were actually killed, and can we trust any published number?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRmYs7YQ/

vm.tiktok.com/ZNRmYV4cq/

The title of your thread and OP is goady. 'Faked' deaths is not the case here. HTH.

TorroFerney · 04/03/2026 09:00

HarlanCobenDogshit · 04/03/2026 08:03

It's not even thinly veiled....

Fair point. It’s getting harder for them though isn’t it as it’s a choice between everything being Israel’s fault versus saying effectively they support the Iranian regime. I think they are finding it a bit of a head scratcher.

Weareoutofwine · 04/03/2026 09:31

Ipendem · 04/03/2026 08:05

It’s in real newspapers that you can check yourself. If the internet is so bad how did you get online to comment on this post.

Real newspapers you say? Ohh that also suggests unreal newspapers and unreal news. How are we to tell the difference I wonder. It's a real conundrum isn't it.

randomchap · 04/03/2026 09:44

Weareoutofwine · 04/03/2026 09:31

Real newspapers you say? Ohh that also suggests unreal newspapers and unreal news. How are we to tell the difference I wonder. It's a real conundrum isn't it.

There absolutely is unreal news and newspapers pushing unreliable narratives. I'm amazed people aren't aware of this

Weareoutofwine · 04/03/2026 09:47

randomchap · 04/03/2026 09:44

There absolutely is unreal news and newspapers pushing unreliable narratives. I'm amazed people aren't aware of this

I think I may have been a little too subtle. Re - read my message with perhaps a hint of cynicism and that I might also be reflecting back at the OP.