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My beautiful mixed race dd worried about war.

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malificent7 · 03/03/2026 13:27

Dd is half iranian. Iranian Dad is not around. In Uk btw running a business but not really involved. She is worried about anti Iranian feeling which is so sad as she was just feeling so proud of her iranian/persian heritage. We were doing persian cookery I've already had a few anti iranian comments this morning at work. I havn't mentioned dds ethnicity.
How do I deal with this?
Obviously I will carry on the cooking etc.
Please be gentle btw.

OP posts:
Bringemout · 07/03/2026 05:41

Bigwelshlamb · 03/03/2026 21:59

I'm my work place today we were mainly discussing how anti Trump and Bebe we were and despite everything, killing their religious leader during Ramadan was designed to inflame... No one is surprised at the retaliation and I don't know anyone blaming Iranian people, quite opposite.

Afghanistan and Pakistan declared war on each other during ramadan, muhammed conducted military campaigns during ramadan. This idea that ramadan is a special non conflict time is just not true.

FiatLuxAdAstra · 11/03/2026 06:45

Clavinova · 06/03/2026 23:21

You’re quite right, a fine British teen that was definitely provoked into sneaking up behind a foreigner and punching him so hard in the back of the head, he killed him. The victim never pushed him according to court records

I didn't say he was a fine British teen, I said he was convicted of manslaughter and the case was not a Brexit-related hate crime as originally claimed by the media. Neither did I post that the victim pushed him - my Guardian quote states that the victim pushed one of the youngsters (he pushed the teen's friend);

“The deceased and his companion, according to the witnesses called by the prosecution, were staggering from drink; they made racist remarks; they invited violence from those youngsters; and they were considerably bigger and stronger than the young people involved.
“It was after the deceased pushed one of the youngsters that this defendant did what he did and that presents a rather different picture from the hullabaloo that arose after this incident took place.”

I see you have used Wikipedia for your source. You could have quoted:

Initial reports in August 2016 alleged that Jóźwik was killed for speaking Polish. James O'Brien, an LBC radio host, said that UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage was responsible for Jóźwik's death...
Separately, the BBC interviewed a friend of Jóźwik, who said that Farage had "blood on his hands".

There was considerably less media interest in the verdict of the trial, which found that there was no xenophobic motive to the attack on Jóźwik.

Only one [youth] was charged, and he threw only one punch.
the victim died as a result of injuries caused when he hit the ground.

Examples from the rest of your post:

Lack of reliable data
One key data gap highlighted by the report is on ethnicity, which is described as "appalling" and a "major failing".
It says the ethnicity of perpetrators is "shied away from" and still not recorded in two-thirds of cases, meaning it is not possible to draw conclusions at a national level.
Latest figures show there is a long way to go. In 2023, police tackling organised abuse recorded the ethnicity of 34% of suspects and 47% of victims.

Well quite - you claimed that 'white British were disproportionally responsible for child sex exploitation'

How do you know that white British [males] were [disproportionately] responsible for child sex exploitation if ethnicity data is not recorded in the majority of cases? Not to mention that the ethnicity data does not tell us nationality - so we do not know what percentage are British either.

The data we DO have so far where ethnicity was recorded shows that white British males are disproportionately responsible for child sex exploitation crimes.

Yes, the data is incomplete because ethnicity isn’t recorded consistently in all cases which is being rectified.

This is no different from reporting that the current data shows that males are disproportionately responsible for sexual assaults other than rape even though they don’t record the sex of the offender in all cases and that is also being rectified especially since some trans offenders were misrecorded by gender not sex. That data too is incomplete.

FasterMichelin · 11/03/2026 06:48

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 03/03/2026 13:31

Actually I am not aware that there is much anti Iranian sentiment among most British people. Anti-Iranian Islamist fundamentalist regime yes. Anti-Iranian, no. Probably quite the opposite.

Same.

Bluegreenbird · 11/03/2026 06:56

FiatLuxAdAstra · 03/03/2026 15:08

I’d be honest. During Brexit, Eastern Europeans were harassed and beaten, one was even killed.
During Covid, East Asian people were harassed and beaten in the streets.

During the Gaza/Israel conflict both Jewish antisemitic and Muslim islmaphobia hate crimes skyrocketed.

Putin in Ukraine has stoked anti-Russian hatred.

The grooming gang scandals has been manipulated into anti Pakistan bigotry not seen since the 80s despite white British being disproportionally responsible for child sex exploitation.

Trump’s antics and warmongering has pushed up antiAmerican sentiments.

During the troubles the Irish were hated.

With Reform, there is alot of xenophobia and racism to go around today.

Anti-Iran/Persiam sentiment due to fighting in Iran is being added to a long list of people many British Bigots feel they have carte blanche to harass and attack.

England isn’t a safe country any more for me and many others.

Sounds like you have an agenda. All racist attacks are despicable but in general non white/British have no more to fear from white/British than we do from them when it comes to physical attacks. Everyday racism is another matter.

Catladywithacat · 11/03/2026 07:13

If you tell people you have a half Iranian child they may shut up, racist like to be quiet

FiatLuxAdAstra · 11/03/2026 07:17

Bluegreenbird · 11/03/2026 06:56

Sounds like you have an agenda. All racist attacks are despicable but in general non white/British have no more to fear from white/British than we do from them when it comes to physical attacks. Everyday racism is another matter.

I suppose the ONS reports on crime statistics also have an agenda too then because statistically, mixed race people are at higher risk of being a victim of violent crime than white British. If we look at religiously motivated hate crimes against Jews and Muslims that boosts the risks even more for anyone who is both mixed and Jewish or Muslim.

My beautiful mixed race dd worried about war.
AfternoonTeaPotDictator · 11/03/2026 07:31

FiatLuxAdAstra · 11/03/2026 07:17

I suppose the ONS reports on crime statistics also have an agenda too then because statistically, mixed race people are at higher risk of being a victim of violent crime than white British. If we look at religiously motivated hate crimes against Jews and Muslims that boosts the risks even more for anyone who is both mixed and Jewish or Muslim.

Being a victim of violent crime is not the same thing as being the victim of racially motivated violent crime.

Your leap from mixed race people are disproportionately victims of violent crime to white people are committing these crimes is nonsensical and transparent.

janietreemore · 11/03/2026 07:34

@malificent7 Are you not coming back to the thread you started and which lots of people have taken the trouble to reply to?

Clavinova · 11/03/2026 17:34

FiatLuxAdAstra · 11/03/2026 06:45

The data we DO have so far where ethnicity was recorded shows that white British males are disproportionately responsible for child sex exploitation crimes.

Yes, the data is incomplete because ethnicity isn’t recorded consistently in all cases which is being rectified.

This is no different from reporting that the current data shows that males are disproportionately responsible for sexual assaults other than rape even though they don’t record the sex of the offender in all cases and that is also being rectified especially since some trans offenders were misrecorded by gender not sex. That data too is incomplete.

The data we DO have so far where ethnicity was recorded shows that white British males are disproportionately responsible for child sex exploitation crimes

white British males

The child sex exploitation statistics you quoted up thread do not state nationality.

Also, from the Casey report;

Presenting the data with a large percentage of unknown data skews the figures (as we show in chapter 4). For example, in the COCAD data for perpetrators of group based offending in 2023, self-defined ethnicity is 88% White when ‘unknowns’ are excluded, but 28% White when the unknowns are included. We can be confident that at least 28% of group-based offenders are White; but we cannot reach a conclusion that 88% are White overall.

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