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I feel like I'm not my partner's true love

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ForSpryPeachWasp · 03/03/2026 10:40

Posting from outside of the UK, I hope that's not an issue... Anyways, I'm 30 years old, a FTM (baby is 19 months old), and have been with my partner (29 years old) for 5 years now. Our relationship has been good for the most part, despite our rocky beginnings. I mention the way our relationship started because, being totally honest, this may be the main reason for some of what I'm about to describe. We met on a dating app when he was still in a relationship with his ex. I didn't know when we met but found out very quickly and decided to carry on seeing him anyways. Not proud of it to be clear. They broke up eventually after six years together.

From day 1 I have felt like I found 'my person' in him. He's smart, ambitious, handsome, has a lot of values and interests I share. Along with our baby we have built a beautiful life together. And yet despite all of the good things I can't describe the way I feel the lack of... intimacy (?) from his side. I don't mean purely in the physical sense. It's more like something I'm missing from him? I've thought a lot about this over the years and the only thing I can come up with is a feeling of him being reluctant. It doesn't feel like he's curious about me at all, or at least, not anymore. He doesn't put in effort to get me to open up or understand where I'm coming from when we're going through something. For example, I went through a rough patch with my mental health after my mom passed last year, and have honestly been needing quite a bit of support emotionally. I've tried to talk to him about this but he doesn't really engage or understand. Or bother to ask me what I'm experiencing. It's like he doesn't care enough to put in effort. And I've always felt like, for true love, you put in work and effort. I know I have...

I suppose his ex comes in here as well. She's been a bit of a third factor in our relationship since the start. The first year and a half of our relationship was filled with ups and downs as he clearly hadn't moved on from one relationship and was already starting a new one. We did work through that, he went completely no contact, and for a while it worked. Until about a year ago, shortly after I gave birth. We hti another rocky patch, one thing lead to another, and by his own confession to me he started slipping and making 'contact'. Meaning saving her social media pictures to his phone and DMing her when he drinks, begging her to take him back, asking for nudes. He showed me the messages he sent and they were....... not good.

Now, I've chosen to trust him and his word because he was transparent about it and seemed sincerely apologetic, and so far he has kept his promise to me and our child. But combined with his general reluctant attitude towards me sometimes, it just makes me feel more and more unwanted. I've expressed that I'd like to get married soon since we've been together for 5 years, had a baby, and are financially stable. Even though I try my hardest not to come off desperate (which is really difficult when you've dreamt of your "happy ever after"), he dismisses the idea anytime I bring it up and says that there's no rush. Knowing full well he proposed to her at one point. She rejected him but still. It hurts.

Sometimes I feel like what we have has all been in my head, built up and imagined because I want him so badly to be my happy ending. Does he even want this, does he want me, or does he want her? What am I missing? What does she have? This is all very hard to write to be honest. Makes it too real. But I don't have any friends or family to talk about this with irl, so reaching out here felt like my only option to get some perspectives on this and see if anyone can relate. Thank you in advance.

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throwawayimplantchat · 03/03/2026 13:00

You know what OP? One of the greatest gifts you can give your child is not making them grow up under the same roof as a toxic, unhealthy relationship.

Far better to split now and work on being good coparents than it is to stay together, continue to be unhealthy and unhappy as a couple (with a cheat who sends unsolicited wanking videos to exes) and teach your child that this dynamic is what normal looks like.

Or when they’re adults they’ll end up either going out with arseholes or being the arsehole.

ForSpryPeachWasp · 03/03/2026 13:03

Its strange how it went from sending reciprocal skanky messages to each other, to her blocking him, randomly unblocking him, him then randomly messaging and sending a perverted video and asking for nudes, then her talking about him hurting you/baby and blocking again and him then suddenly feeling guilty and telling you (or, getting in there first)
Something else has happened or had started up again from the initial messages between them both and now and has gone sour. Its so obvious.

What do you mean? Like they may have been seeing each other? Why?

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Notsosweetcaroline · 03/03/2026 13:03

Sorry op, this is bad, you’re second best and you know it. You won’t change that, she sounds like a good person not wanting him to cheat on you with her. Good for her not giving you the same back and having morals.

its onky a matter of time I’m afraid, if he wants her back. Which he does, he will need to end it with you. He told you as he wanted you to end it. Most women would have when they saw that.

he also won’t have the same respect for you. Knowing you were a willing participant in cheating, and knowing she won’t do that. The fact he was cheating won’t enter his mind.

dp you really want to live like this, being someone’s second best. The man doesn’t want to marry you for this reason.

ThatCyanCat · 03/03/2026 13:04

Trusttheawesomeness · 03/03/2026 12:55

She literally said “the ex is accepting contact like that from him” when this woman has been minding her own business for several years and this loser of a guy starts sending her videos of him wanking… then another poster says “she was accepting contact like that.” Anything to blame the woman.

By "accepting", I meant (pretty clearly, I thought) "not repelled by him" (although she probably should be). Or perhaps she is, and OP doesn't know or hasn't mentioned it. She seems worried he'll get back with the ex so if that's a possibility then yeah, it sounds like she has forgiven him and he's the only one who owes her an apology anyway.

Point is: OP doesn't owe ex an apology, he does but it looks like she's forgiven him anyway, either way, no point in OP apologising. Ex hasn't done anything wrong, very obviously.

Honestly I can't be bothered to explain a third time. You've completely misread, you've gone off on a rant about something that didn't even cross my mind when I was writing the post, you're arguing over something I don't believe and didn't say. I'm sure there are plenty of other posts you can go to if you really need your daily dose of moral castigation, and you'll find it far more satisfying when there's actually something to complain about.

Thirtylifecrisis · 03/03/2026 13:04

Do you think he told you in hopes you would break up with him? As a 'way out'?

Of course he went through the motions of saying he's sorry, wants you and won't do it again blah blah blah, but really he was hoping you'd end it and walk away so it's taken out of his hands?

BruisedNeckMeat · 03/03/2026 13:05

Other posters have nailed it.

You are romanticising this woman as his “first love” so that you can convince yourself he would only cheat on you with her because of their special bond.
Now that she has rejected him you can tell yourself he won’t look elsewhere. He will.

I feel for you, OP, despite your morally questionable values. You sound quite young and idealistic. You don’t sound d ready to face reality but I hope this thread will help you prepare for what will most likely come.

LittleMyLabyrinth · 03/03/2026 13:05

Does anyone over the age of 10 actually believe in "true love"?? Yes, love exists but it's not worth building your whole life and personality in pursuit of it. That's a bad example to set for your child.

I'm curious what your parents' relationship was like.

ForSpryPeachWasp · 03/03/2026 13:06

LittleMyLabyrinth · 03/03/2026 13:05

Does anyone over the age of 10 actually believe in "true love"?? Yes, love exists but it's not worth building your whole life and personality in pursuit of it. That's a bad example to set for your child.

I'm curious what your parents' relationship was like.

I grew up rather sheltered. Slept with and entertained a lot of men who disappointed me... All I'll say about it. Move on.

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Hoppinggreen · 03/03/2026 13:06

He is cheat, you know this.
He cheated with you and now he is cheating on you.
Unfortunately you are one of many women who think that you can fix a man and that you are so special that despite knowing he is cheater you think he will never cheat on YOU
Sadly you are wrong

ForSpryPeachWasp · 03/03/2026 13:07

Thirtylifecrisis · 03/03/2026 13:04

Do you think he told you in hopes you would break up with him? As a 'way out'?

Of course he went through the motions of saying he's sorry, wants you and won't do it again blah blah blah, but really he was hoping you'd end it and walk away so it's taken out of his hands?

I don't know what I think at this point.

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2026Y · 03/03/2026 13:08

Meaning saving her social media pictures to his phone and DMing her when he drinks, begging her to take him back, asking for nudes. He showed me the messages he sent and they were....... not good.

Woah - that escalated quickly. Unfortunately I don't think there's much coming back from this....

outerspacepotato · 03/03/2026 13:09

ForSpryPeachWasp · 03/03/2026 13:06

I grew up rather sheltered. Slept with and entertained a lot of men who disappointed me... All I'll say about it. Move on.

Edited

That must have been some shelter for you to think you found your person while he was cheating on his long term relationship partner.

Life is not a Harlequin romance. The end.

Trusttheawesomeness · 03/03/2026 13:10

ThatCyanCat · 03/03/2026 13:04

By "accepting", I meant (pretty clearly, I thought) "not repelled by him" (although she probably should be). Or perhaps she is, and OP doesn't know or hasn't mentioned it. She seems worried he'll get back with the ex so if that's a possibility then yeah, it sounds like she has forgiven him and he's the only one who owes her an apology anyway.

Point is: OP doesn't owe ex an apology, he does but it looks like she's forgiven him anyway, either way, no point in OP apologising. Ex hasn't done anything wrong, very obviously.

Honestly I can't be bothered to explain a third time. You've completely misread, you've gone off on a rant about something that didn't even cross my mind when I was writing the post, you're arguing over something I don't believe and didn't say. I'm sure there are plenty of other posts you can go to if you really need your daily dose of moral castigation, and you'll find it far more satisfying when there's actually something to complain about.

She replied telling him to leave her alone and stop dragging her into his mess, stop hurting her and now hurting another woman and baby, then she blocked him.

What part of that tells you she has accepted the contact and forgiven him?

pinkdelight · 03/03/2026 13:11

One of the saddest things isn't even the cheating. It's that he doesn't even pretend to be interested in you, yet you still think there's some future with him. He's not going to change, either from the cheating, nor is he going to start caring how you are and being a supportive loving partner who wants to marry you. Don't waste any more of your self-esteem on a man who'll grind it all away. If the most you have to hang onto is that you don't (yet) believe he's actively cheating, that's a terribly low bar. And probably wrong, given how he was on the apps even when he was with this alleged first love. He's only interested in himself.

ThatCyanCat · 03/03/2026 13:11

Trusttheawesomeness · 03/03/2026 13:10

She replied telling him to leave her alone and stop dragging her into his mess, stop hurting her and now hurting another woman and baby, then she blocked him.

What part of that tells you she has accepted the contact and forgiven him?

Right, I missed that. I thought I'd seen all of OP's posts but obviously I hadn't. However, it still doesn't change my point that it's pointless for OP to apologise.

So we both misread something in this thread. Fabulous. I can accept it and alter my view accordingly. Can you?

janietreemore · 03/03/2026 13:12

ForSpryPeachWasp · 03/03/2026 11:02

Someone asked, I feel I should say he is an amazing dad. The best. He takes on a lot of care and did exhaust himself when I was dealing with my mom passing - I know bare minimum or whatever. But I can't imagine a better, more doting father. Genuinely.

Hes not an amazing enough dad to make sure his child has a happy stable home and a contented mum, sadly.

ForSpryPeachWasp · 03/03/2026 13:15

Does anyone think they may have been seeing each other leading up to the videos and messages?

OP posts:
ThatCyanCat · 03/03/2026 13:15

ForSpryPeachWasp · 03/03/2026 13:15

Does anyone think they may have been seeing each other leading up to the videos and messages?

What difference does it make?

ForSpryPeachWasp · 03/03/2026 13:16

ThatCyanCat · 03/03/2026 13:15

What difference does it make?

Physical cheating would mean the end of our relationship for me

OP posts:
Trusttheawesomeness · 03/03/2026 13:16

ThatCyanCat · 03/03/2026 13:11

Right, I missed that. I thought I'd seen all of OP's posts but obviously I hadn't. However, it still doesn't change my point that it's pointless for OP to apologise.

So we both misread something in this thread. Fabulous. I can accept it and alter my view accordingly. Can you?

I didn’t misread. You posted that the ex had obviously forgiven him if she was happy to accept contact like that from him. I called you out on that, because she absolutely did not. And it read like you just trying to somehow drag her into the blame. The only two people at fault here are the OP who jumped into an affair and the loser boyfriend who cheated on his girlfriend.

You were wrong because you missed the post explained her reaction. Im sure you would no longer accuse her of accepting this type of contact. But I didn’t misread.

Catza · 03/03/2026 13:16

ForSpryPeachWasp · 03/03/2026 13:15

Does anyone think they may have been seeing each other leading up to the videos and messages?

It doesn't matter. Videos and messages are enough to realise he is not that into you. Despite his (drunk) confessions.

BippidyBoppety · 03/03/2026 13:17

ImFinePMSL · 03/03/2026 12:53

He doesn’t love you.

He doesn’t love his ex.

He is very immature and likes ‘the chase’ and the thrill of being sneaky.

You need to be single to work on your self esteem.

He needs to be single so he can fuck around without hurting or betraying anyone.

For men like this, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. Regardless of who their partner is.

Agree with the above. OP - you are all caught up in your head that this is all about the first girlfriend, his 'first love' yadda yadda. Give your head a shake and look at this from another angle -

Do you feel cherished? Do you feel supported and adored? In a room full of beautiful, sexy women would his eyes go to you or do you think he'd be assessing the other women? Be honest with yourself.

You have one child together, please please don't have a second child, or get married, unless you feel this man has you at the front and foremost of his mind. No child should be born into a relationship where the bloke has his eyes on another 'prize' .... Telling yourself he's a great Dad is just an excuse so you won't find yourself alone and out there dating more rubbish guys. Stop, find some self esteem. You are never going to make this man love you, or marry you, when he feels there is better out there. Are you loved, are you cherished? From your posts it seems a big fat NO.

Trusttheawesomeness · 03/03/2026 13:18

ForSpryPeachWasp · 03/03/2026 13:15

Does anyone think they may have been seeing each other leading up to the videos and messages?

Given her reply to him? No. Stop trying to drag her into the blame.

And what a low bar you have. He can message whoever he likes and send wanking videos to other women and you’ll continue playing happy families, cooking, cleaning, servicing him in bed, earning more than him so subsidising his lifestyle… just as long as he doesn’t actually have sex with someone else.

Have you ever had therapy?

throwawayimplantchat · 03/03/2026 13:18

throwawayimplantchat · 03/03/2026 13:00

You know what OP? One of the greatest gifts you can give your child is not making them grow up under the same roof as a toxic, unhealthy relationship.

Far better to split now and work on being good coparents than it is to stay together, continue to be unhealthy and unhappy as a couple (with a cheat who sends unsolicited wanking videos to exes) and teach your child that this dynamic is what normal looks like.

Or when they’re adults they’ll end up either going out with arseholes or being the arsehole.

You’re a parent now OP. Your baby is your priority.

What do you think of what I have said here about the blueprint you’re providing for your child?

You’re focusing now on posts where people have suggested he might have physically cheated, rather than on ones about the importance of the example this is setting for your innocent child.

ClearFruit · 03/03/2026 13:18

He's a prick and a chancer. Leave him.