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To think colleagues joke was NOT acceptable?

471 replies

LaurenkI · 02/03/2026 18:10

My team has a meeting every Monday (virtual) and there’s always chat at the start about weekends etc. One of my colleagues said he’s worrying because his holiday plans for the year include already booked trips to Cyprus and Dubai. Another colleague then said ‘any chance you can book a trip to France next’ and he got a few laughs.

I have family in France, as does another colleague I’m aware of. Is it me or is this type of ‘joke’ really inappropriate given the current climate?

OP posts:
CantBreathe90 · 02/03/2026 22:54

LaurenkI · 02/03/2026 18:44

That’s for them to decide, they’ll need to acknowledge my grievance though and I expect seek guidance from HR on any next steps.

I flagged an equally inappropriate ‘joke’ by another colleague a couple of years ago and I know they were warned as to their future conduct.

Oh good, maybe he'll get fired. That'll certainly be proportional and make the world a better place. When he's having a shit day and feeling rotten, you can feel smug that you've made the world just that little bit more tiresome and difficult!

Applecup · 02/03/2026 22:58

LaurenkI · 02/03/2026 20:35

Not in my experience, I’ve always found the Dfrench to be extremely hospitable on my numerous visits over the years.

They’d not sink to such depths.

Rather naive. I lived in France for a while. They joke about us English, believe me. Usually when invited for dinner they jokingly announced they had already eaten as they know what bad cooks we are.

BadLad · 02/03/2026 23:02

Applecup · 02/03/2026 22:58

Rather naive. I lived in France for a while. They joke about us English, believe me. Usually when invited for dinner they jokingly announced they had already eaten as they know what bad cooks we are.

Before a meal:

In France - Bon appetit
In Germany - Guten Appetit
In Italy - Buon appetito

In England - Never mind

Namechangerage · 02/03/2026 23:08

LaurenkI · 02/03/2026 20:35

Not in my experience, I’ve always found the Dfrench to be extremely hospitable on my numerous visits over the years.

They’d not sink to such depths.

Well that’s ridiculous! Of course there may be idiots in France making jokes about Britain. Just as there are Brits would “be hospitable” to French tourists.

I was on your side actually with reporting this “joke”, but cannot agree at all with this silly remark 🤣

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 02/03/2026 23:09

Equalityumber · 02/03/2026 18:31

It might be worth jumping on a call with the colleague and explaining why his comments might be seen to be inappropriate.

It’s a great opportunity to educate and foster a kinder working environment.

It would be a great way for OP to be seen as, well, a bit odd and for colleagues to give her a wide berth

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 02/03/2026 23:12

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 02/03/2026 18:46

Oh god, you’re one of those.

Just what I was going to post!

Wintersgirl · 02/03/2026 23:16

LaurenkI · 02/03/2026 18:44

That’s for them to decide, they’ll need to acknowledge my grievance though and I expect seek guidance from HR on any next steps.

I flagged an equally inappropriate ‘joke’ by another colleague a couple of years ago and I know they were warned as to their future conduct.

Now you're just being ridiculous...get over it for Christ's sake

Marmalademorning · 02/03/2026 23:17

If one of my employees reported to this to me, I’d think the person reporting it was being a bit petty to be honest and wouldn’t look too favourably on it.

Dollymylove · 02/03/2026 23:20

BadLad · 02/03/2026 23:02

Before a meal:

In France - Bon appetit
In Germany - Guten Appetit
In Italy - Buon appetito

In England - Never mind

I wouldnt be taking any culinary advice from anyone who eats snails 🤢🤢

JaffavsCookie · 02/03/2026 23:20

LaurenkI · 02/03/2026 18:44

That’s for them to decide, they’ll need to acknowledge my grievance though and I expect seek guidance from HR on any next steps.

I flagged an equally inappropriate ‘joke’ by another colleague a couple of years ago and I know they were warned as to their future conduct.

OMG, literally either relax by about 180o or deal with tiny trivial issues like this yourself (politely and like and adult btw)

BadLad · 02/03/2026 23:26

Dollymylove · 02/03/2026 23:20

I wouldnt be taking any culinary advice from anyone who eats snails 🤢🤢

My wife is Japanese, and when she pulls a face at the concept of, say, black pudding, I remind her that raw chicken meat is considered a delicacy in her country.

Isit2026yet · 02/03/2026 23:33

@LaurenkI stop over thinking it!

SouthernNights59 · 02/03/2026 23:34

You seem to live in a bubble OP. I'm in NZ and we trade insults with Aussies, and they with us. We even make disparaging remarks about Dorklanders (people from Auckland). It's natural to do with neighbouring countries, how can you not be aware of it?

2O26 · 02/03/2026 23:39

OP, if I were your boss I would be looking for a way to fire you, or at the very least encouraging you to take early retirement. Overly sensitive is an understatement.

2O26 · 02/03/2026 23:48

DuchessofStaffordshire · 02/03/2026 20:12

Having read OPs latest update, I'm wondering if this is a wind up.

I think you are right. It's too ridiculous to be anything but a wind up.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 02/03/2026 23:49

I think it’s just a joke.

Its sort of a joke on a joke - because everyone knows the British don’t actually hate the French any more - we’re sort of like sibling countries that will always have a jokey rivalry but don’t actually dislike each other any more. We’re allies when it matters.

I’d have laughed (but obviously have assumed it was ironic, as above)

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 02/03/2026 23:51

Oh and just to be clear - I really like France and the French, have been there many times and have friends there.

I would equally laugh if they said it about us.

It funny because neither country is vulnerable, fortunately for us, or in any way downtrodden or oppressed.

IdaGlossop · 02/03/2026 23:56

parkezvous · 02/03/2026 18:47

Just seen your update OP have you really sent an email to your manager?! Bet s/he loves you 🤣

As a manager, I have never received a 'mummy, please sort this out for me' email. Had I done so, I would have told the sender that they were in a workplace, not a primary school, and offered to be the 'joker' as they role-played being an assertive grown-up.

IdaGlossop · 03/03/2026 00:01

LaurenkI · 02/03/2026 20:03

I do think some have lost sight of what a professional workplace looks like in this day and age.

I am glad retirement is on the horizon.

The responses here evidence exactly why it was an inappropriate remark - heck, I hadn’t even considered the possible link to boats given the rise of the likes of Farage and the far right in this country.

A professional workplace? One in which the women are all secretaries and shorthand typists, people call one another 'Miss Brown' and 'Mr Jones', and Miss Brown gets slapped on the bum by Mr Jones every time she opens a filing cabinet?

FantasyFoodhall · 03/03/2026 02:40

DFrench 😂
I hope French Mumsnetters refer to Brits as DBrits.

KTCustard178 · 03/03/2026 03:44

LaurenkI · 02/03/2026 19:10

Been there, done that. If this sort of thing came across my desk I’d have treated it with the utmost importance.

@LaurenkI Do you really want to see this guy get potentially sacked over this as you are putting in a grievance? I'm asking you this in the kindest way but are you menopausal? I was put into a chemical menopause after 1 round of IVF and I got offended by stuff like this! No one could put a foot right! I was only 35. Anyway look; whatever it is, you have not only sent a message to your manager waiting to be picked up but you have also come onto a forum / platform (maybe not just this one?) and asked if you are being unreasonable? If you know in your heart that your male colleague was being unreasonable then speak to the male colleague tomorrow, pull him aside and just ask him outright and express how it made you feel, there is no harm in that and what you got to loose? Your colleagues and manager might have all interpreted it differently too - so I wouldn't set the hares running

EvangelineTheNightStar · 03/03/2026 04:34

FantasyFoodhall · 03/03/2026 02:40

DFrench 😂
I hope French Mumsnetters refer to Brits as DBrits.

Mais non! C’est les CBretangne! (Chere Bretangne)

FantasyFoodhall · 03/03/2026 04:46

EvangelineTheNightStar · 03/03/2026 04:34

Mais non! C’est les CBretangne! (Chere Bretangne)

But of course! 😆

HoppingPavlova · 03/03/2026 04:57

I am glad retirement is on the horizon

As is your manager I suspect, although probably wishing for more immediacy than ‘horizon’.

Seriously, as a manager, I’d be so pissed to return to such a piece of tripe if someone in my team did this. Whilst I’d ‘have’ to deal with it, I’d be thinking the colleague was either not quite right emotionally, or must be very bored and I’d really be looking at their workload (and no, not retaliatory, just can’t imagine a busy person’s would have time for such shite).

Zanatdy · 03/03/2026 05:09

An email to the manager would be sufficient. A grievance and all the work that comes with it is OTT.

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