Men just causing wars

[MsTigs]

Is there a war they didn’t cause?

The Falklands war....

Golda Meir in 1973.

Indira Ghandi in 1971.

Elizabeth I was actively involved in military campaigns and imperial expansion.

Not a war as such, but Mary I executed (horribly) a large number of Protestants.

Margaret Thatcher in 1982.

Oh dear, embarrassing lack of knowledge (yours) ..

It would be so much better if we just put the leaders, who want to go to war, into an arena and they fight each other to death.

I guess they would think twice about it then, what with Trumps bone spurs and all…

Argentina invaded the Falklands Islands. Margaret Thatcher had a choice to go to war over it or take some other path. She went to war over it.

I’m not suggesting that was the wrong choice, it wasn’t, but it’s an example of a female leader going to war.

Give me a history lesson then.

In the words of certain leaders:

As well as Thatcher, I'm guessing you've never heard of:

Boudica

Queen Zenobia of Palmyra

Queen Isabella I of Castile

Catherine the Great of Russia

Queen Teuta

Golda Meir did not start the Yom Kippur War!

I thought female rulers were more likely to start wars?

There was a study where they looked at about 400 years of European history and queens were something like 30-40% more likely to start a war than kings. Probs helped that they weren't expected to lead the army into battle like many kings did!

Isolated examples of female leaders doesn't really cut it as proof that women cause wars. As a percentage of all the wars ever, it's a rounding error, and they were still operating within a patriarchal system. There has never been a truly matriarchal civilisation, so there's not even a proper basis for comparison. Which probably tells us all we need to know.

You obviously haven't worked in a female dominated industry 😂

I wonder how we can know. With my experience of women and their behaviour at times I find it very hard to believe that war wouldn't exist if women were leaders. And unfortunately, we do rely on men to protect us from other aggressive males. The world is a violent place, a war of all against all, and we have the luxury of feeling as powerful as we do because of male power.

400 years of historical data is.....an isolated example? 🤔

Women squabble much more than men. However, they don't usually have the power/authority to start wars. But when they do have the power they do start the wars.

I defer to the comedian Chris Rock ….

If women ruled the world there’d just be a whole bunch of countries not talking to each other.

You know what? That's actually a good idea.

Politics and religion is ultimately what causes the majority of wars.

And oil.

But they are mainly caused by men.

I remember seeing something about Heorge Bush starting wars. ‘Give him a couple of toddlers to cope with’ was the suggested solution!

I mean, we could say that every beneficial invention of note was invented by a man. Or the vast majority of truly great works of art. But it would be meaningless without context.

All those women have been in male dominated societies though. If women had the majority of powerful positions rather than the minority or token leader roles then the whole blueprint of what good leadership and strategic action looks like might be drastically different.

Ada Lovelace
Marie Curie

To name just two. Women have invented hundreds of things. They just don’t get the credit men get.

And speaking as an ex art teacher, plenty of women created phenomenal art. Again they were never credited or were just ignored

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/5-women-artists-renaissance-2388731

Women have always invented and painted. They’ve just been ignored. Women haven’t always started wars.

Err. Not really.

The Yom Kippur War was started by men from Egypt and Syria. This fact is not disputed. Unless Israel fought another war in 1973 that only you know about..?

Pie in the sky

And in the 20th and 21st century?

How many were started by women as opposed to men?