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Dual citizens with expired passports

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Disturbedisanunderstatement · 27/02/2026 04:40

Don’t know if there is a thread on this already so happy to join an existing one if that is the case.
Posting in Aibu for traffic. Don’t care if iabu or not. I just need to fly to the UK next week and UK passport is expired.
I could fly almost anywhere in the world on my eu passport so it is ironic I am technically locked out of my country of origin but that’s where I have a work meeting spontaneously scheduled for next week. I would literally fly in the morning and out on the evening.

Anyone else in a similar position?

Apparently these airlines are accepting expired passports:

British Airways
easyJet
Lufthansa
Singapore Airlines
United
Virgin Atlantic

Anyone actually had success with this yet? Or works with the airlines and can confirm passengers will be allowed to travel?

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Angelil · 27/02/2026 20:01

Natsku · 27/02/2026 16:58

And you are required to provide original birth certs for all grandparents - even the non British ones! (Why???) At short notice this can be really difficult - maybe grandparents are away. (I don't hang on to my parents birth certs...)

We have to provide birth certificates for the non British grandparents? That's going to be impossible for me to do for my DD as her dad and his parents are all dead and its not possible to order birth certificates in my country for anyone else but yourself and your dependents so I can't order copies of them.

You don't have to. It's something that shows up on the list online when you apply but you don't actually have to. My son's other grandparents are French and I just added a letter of explanation in lieu of their birth certificates when applying for his passport and we were still issued the passport with no trouble.

Angelil · 27/02/2026 20:02

StarlightLady · 27/02/2026 16:56

But the expired passport must be in the exact same name, so if you have subsequently changed your name due to marriage, divorce or other reason you are not covered.

Welcome to Brexit Britain.

Just carry a copy of your marriage certificate with your passports. I always do this, just in case (French passports don't record last names in the same way that British ones do) and it's never been an issue. People are always able to join the dots.

Angelil · 27/02/2026 20:04

You believed one person whinging?

Angelil · 27/02/2026 20:06

missmonstermunch · 27/02/2026 19:59

Not a UK birth certificate, a British Born Overseas birth certificate.

I know. My children have those too.
But if they allow it for that type of birth certificate (which does prove citizenship) they then have to allow it for every other type of British birth certificate (which does not prove citizenship). Cue an unholy mess. It's easier for them not to allow it as a form of proof so I can understand why they don't.

Angelil · 27/02/2026 20:09

BlooomUnleashed · 27/02/2026 20:00

I live in Italy. Left the U.K. in 1989. They want me to prove I’m really still me with parents’ and grandparents’ birth marriage death certificates. The site I get sent to for GRO numbers, doesn’t tell me a GRO number, or at least I can’t see it.

I can’t even find a photo place that gives you a digital code in town. And so far the site hates every picture I’ve tried to take of myself.

I’m not built for all this level of admin. Which is how my passport ended expired for so long in the first place. Italian DH takes care of of all Italian admin because I end up flustered and throwing in the towel by the time I’ve been sent to yet another counter for more “stamps”.

Big horrible crisis ? Multiple casualties ? I’m your woman.

Admin doom maze… not so much.

You don't need GRO numbers. Just the information about the people you need certificates for (names and dates of birth; ideally places of birth too).
You can't get a photo with a digital code for British passport applications overseas. Just go to a photo place that specialises in ID photos and get them to take it (they will know the photo requirements for British passports, e.g. what colour background is needed).
I agree that getting the photo uploaded to the website is the trickiest part. Unless said photo place supplies you with the digital copy, you need to take a photo of the photo yourself and then upload it to the Passport Office website. It took me about 4 goes because it doesn't like it if you take it in a place that uses non-natural lighting. I had to go into a room with lots of natural daylight/sunlight before I could take a digital photo of my physical passport photo that the website would accept.
It is solvable/doable but you need to think more laterally.

Ello27 · 27/02/2026 20:10

When getting my British passport a few weeks ago I just sent a colour copy of every page of my EU passport and they accepted this?

StarlightLady · 27/02/2026 20:23

Angelil · 27/02/2026 20:02

Just carry a copy of your marriage certificate with your passports. I always do this, just in case (French passports don't record last names in the same way that British ones do) and it's never been an issue. People are always able to join the dots.

Not so in this case. The new rules state that the names on the (expired) passport must be identical.

Natsku · 27/02/2026 20:35

Angelil · 27/02/2026 20:01

You don't have to. It's something that shows up on the list online when you apply but you don't actually have to. My son's other grandparents are French and I just added a letter of explanation in lieu of their birth certificates when applying for his passport and we were still issued the passport with no trouble.

Thank you, that's a relief to know. Going to try and deal with this all this weekend.

BlooomUnleashed · 27/02/2026 20:39

Angelil · 27/02/2026 20:09

You don't need GRO numbers. Just the information about the people you need certificates for (names and dates of birth; ideally places of birth too).
You can't get a photo with a digital code for British passport applications overseas. Just go to a photo place that specialises in ID photos and get them to take it (they will know the photo requirements for British passports, e.g. what colour background is needed).
I agree that getting the photo uploaded to the website is the trickiest part. Unless said photo place supplies you with the digital copy, you need to take a photo of the photo yourself and then upload it to the Passport Office website. It took me about 4 goes because it doesn't like it if you take it in a place that uses non-natural lighting. I had to go into a room with lots of natural daylight/sunlight before I could take a digital photo of my physical passport photo that the website would accept.
It is solvable/doable but you need to think more laterally.

Thank you, I’ll go and chat to the local photographer and see if he can give me a digital copy.

I’ll try again. The whole process gives me the willies.

As long as DS can get in and out on his Italian passport because he’s not offically registered anywhere as British there’s less pressure on me to sort my passport out. I took him to the consulate in Milan when he was a newborn to check, and they said I didn’t need to do anything, but this was back in 2000.

Thechaseison71 · 27/02/2026 21:27

Angelil · 27/02/2026 19:48

You won't be able to do that when travelling as a family with children (who cannot use the gates).

Is the other parent us a non UK citizen they could go through manual check with them

Thechaseison71 · 27/02/2026 21:30

anniegun · 27/02/2026 16:24

I am not sure what is wrong with requiring British Citizens to show their British passport when entering the country. Most countries have the same rule

Yeah I have British/NZ passports. Always has to use the NZ one to enter there

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 27/02/2026 21:38

BlooomUnleashed · 27/02/2026 20:39

Thank you, I’ll go and chat to the local photographer and see if he can give me a digital copy.

I’ll try again. The whole process gives me the willies.

As long as DS can get in and out on his Italian passport because he’s not offically registered anywhere as British there’s less pressure on me to sort my passport out. I took him to the consulate in Milan when he was a newborn to check, and they said I didn’t need to do anything, but this was back in 2000.

He will need an ETA on his EU passport and I believe the ETA application asks about dual nationality.

Brefugee · 27/02/2026 21:44

Natsku · 27/02/2026 17:02

128 quid I think for the passport plus courier costs to send it back to you, and then you have the costs of getting all the documents you need and sending them by registered post which could add up to a lot of money, especially if they keep asking for more documents or decide they don't like the ones you sent (I know someone that had to send photocopies of passports 3 times because each time they didn't like the way they had been photocopied, even though there isn't any guidance on how you are supposed to photocopy them)

And in another brilliant twist: went to a copy shop here in Germany to get DC expired UK passport copied. It's not allowed...

Catsbreakfast · 27/02/2026 21:53

Jasmine222 · 27/02/2026 05:32

I've also heard of a case where a Polish woman emigrated to Britain with her family as a child, became a Naturalized British Citizen, returned to Poland in 1990, got married to a Polish man and had children who are now in their 30s and have now discovered that due to their mother's status as a Naturalized British Citizen they are also considered British by descent even though they don't speak English and have no ties to the country. Her mother also lost her Naturalization Certificate and has a passport that expired in 1993 so they don't even know where to begin to apply for British passports and yet they're not allowed into the UK without one!

You’d start at your nearest consulate or embassy. They can also issue you with a new passport. I’m not sure why this isn’t first port of call for op.

Brefugee · 27/02/2026 21:55

You can't get a photo with a digital code for British passport applications overseas

You can in Germany. DH did. My photo on my phone was fine for mine. As was the photocopy I did on my printer of my German passport. Used the same printer for his and... rejected. It makes no sense and depends entirely on the mood of whoever is checking

notimagain · 27/02/2026 22:03

Catsbreakfast · 27/02/2026 21:53

You’d start at your nearest consulate or embassy. They can also issue you with a new passport. I’m not sure why this isn’t first port of call for op.

British Embassies/Consulates are no longer involved with Passport renewal, haven't been for years.

cooldarkroom · 27/02/2026 23:23

I took my own selfie for ID photo. It was fine ( took a few trial runs, & chose the best)

unicornflakegirl · 27/02/2026 23:25

Catsbreakfast · 27/02/2026 21:53

You’d start at your nearest consulate or embassy. They can also issue you with a new passport. I’m not sure why this isn’t first port of call for op.

Overseas passport production stopped in August 2011.

Gioia1 · 28/02/2026 05:06

@AgentJohnson yes your daughter can have both British and Dutch. I live in the Netherlands and my children have British and Italian passports through me and Dutch passports the other father. So three passports whereas I only have two.
the downside is that it is expensive to renew them. The Italian ones are the most expensive to renew. Thankfully,the expiry dates overlap so we always have a valid passport.

Jasmine222 · 28/02/2026 05:21

Angelil · 27/02/2026 19:38

Oh this is also a total non story. Do you seriously think that the passport office has never seen a woman's Spanish passport before? (Ditto French etc where it's the same situation) I'm pretty sure they understand what they look like / how this is meant to work.
I also have a French passport, which lists my maiden name and married name (standard for French passports), whereas my British passport only lists my married name. You just chuck in a copy of your marriage certificate and a letter of explanation with the other passport documentation when applying. It's really not that hard.

Just because you've clearly never run into hurdles with this doesn't mean it's
not an issue. A friend of mine had to send an official letter from the Registry Office of the EU country she's from, stating that her names could not match her UK names due to local laws. They eventually issued her a passport after 6 weeks of waiting, including an official "observation" about this in the notes section.

Jasmine222 · 28/02/2026 05:28

Angelil · 27/02/2026 18:48

Yeah, and?
I'm British, married to a French man, living in the Netherlands. We got all the British paperwork lined up for our kids ASAP after they were born as we wanted to maximise their opportunities (e.g. they might want to live/study/work in the UK in the future for all we know) and because we don't trust the British government any further than we can throw them (they constantly move the goalposts; just ask the Windrush generation and the EU citizens living in the UK who have no physical or even digital proof of their right to reside in Britain). Why would you not get every bit of paperwork you can get for your kids?
It's annoying and expensive but not difficult.

On the one hand I completely agree with you, but where I don't agree is-

If you don't want or can't afford to pay for a British passport or Certificate of Entitlement for your kids, and also can't afford to pay £500 to renounce British Citizenship (which you can't do until you're 18 anyway), I do believe there should be a cheap and easy way to just go on holiday to Britain like you can as an EU Citizen. I really don't believe it's fair to lock Brits out of Britain while they go through what can in some case be months of expensive bureaucracy.

Natsku · 28/02/2026 06:01

Brefugee · 27/02/2026 21:44

And in another brilliant twist: went to a copy shop here in Germany to get DC expired UK passport copied. It's not allowed...

What?? How are you supposed to copy it then??
Its alright for me, I still have a key for my old workplace that has a colour photocopier so I can just pop in after work and copy myself.

Beekman · 28/02/2026 06:03

I think it’s all a mess but it costs around £12 a year per person to have a British passport, I don’t know why you just wouldn’t do it. Had this always been the rule then no one would object to it, it’s just because it’s new that it seems ridiculous. I have never thought twice about having to use my US passport to leave or enter the country, even when I wasn’t resident there, because that’s how it’s always been.

If you’re entitled to British (or any other country’s) citizenship, why would you not claim it?

Zemu · 28/02/2026 06:22

BuddhaAtSea · 27/02/2026 16:41

How would they know if your mother was British? Like, seriously. You present an Italian passport at the border, you cross, that should be the end of story, no? It doesn’t say anywhere on my passport anything about my mother’s nationality.
what am I missing?

The Italian passport holder will now need to apply for an eta before travelling to the uk. You can’t just rock up anymore. I don’t know what questions are asked on the eta, but presumably there are questions about whether you/your parents are British and so you would need to lie on the eta in order to get one.

ThatOrThis · 28/02/2026 06:43

NoArmaniNoPunani · 27/02/2026 06:31

This is crazy. It hasn't been well publicised, this thread is the first I've heard of it.

To be fair, I've seen it reported in mainstream news for the last month or so, almost every couple of days

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