To think people are overeducated in the UK?

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I am raging about this too be honest and I'm not sure why.

One of the mums at the school apparently lost her corporate job 8 months ago. Found this out today when I ran into her in Lidl in the next town - she was working as a manager there.
We ended up talking later in the day and turns out four of the staff there have masters degrees or above (one has a PhD). Apparently this is a common thing people are doing now as they cant get jobs in their fields
AIBU to think we are completely over educating people in this country now?

Feeling angry I think as DS (18) tried so hard over the summer to get a job like this but am finding out now they are all being taken up by people with lots of degrees!

Maybe you’d benefit from studying some of the content covered in a media degree as your views seem to be heavily influenced by your unconscious biases and stereotypes.

There were around 19000 people graduating with a media related degree last year. Are you suggesting that ALL of them fit the description you’ve just written?

Genuin

They didn’t vote against it in 2019 - they voted for it in landslide numbers.

That’s not what they voted for.
The 2019 UK Conservative manifesto focused on ending free movement, introducing an Australian-style points-based system, and reducing lower-skilled migration while controlling overall numbers
. Conversely, the Labour Party pledged to scrap the 2014 Immigration Act, end the "hostile environment" policy, and protect migrants' rights to work and access public services.

19000 people? WTAF. That is ridiculous, I have a lot of empathy for graduates in the employment market right now but you are really asking for it getting yourself £60k in debt reading media studies

Why is it ridiculous? Over 500000 people graduate from university every year. People graduating with a media related degree is a relatively small number if you consider the number of graduates overall.

Only around 37% of the UK population have a degree. Why shouldn’t some of those graduates study a media course? The degree teaches skills which are valued by a range of employers.

What skills and which employers? I’m not buying it.

The people want it stopped, the politicians don't want to implement it.

The subject area of Media and Communication covers a broad range of topics including PR, digital media, marketing, journalism, content creation, film and TV production to name a few.
Many graduates go into marketing, social media, web/online content creation, PR related jobs.
Employers can be specific media companies or marketing agencies but most organisations now employ people to do marketing and/or digital content creation and social media.
For example, universities and colleges have huge teams of people working on marketing and content creation.

Yep

Ha ha, that read like a brochure. I can understand the odd person being duped, but 19000 a year was that? Astonishing

Why do you think they’re being duped? What do you think people should be studying?

My job is to understand the graduate labour market. I’m not a media studies graduate, academic or employer. I’m someone who studies the labour market and looks to understand the link between curriculum and the wants and needs of graduate employers.

You decided to be disparaging about a particular subject with nothing but your own biases and ignorance to draw upon. You asked ‘what skills and what employers’ and I told you.

bascially these areas :

Employers want graduates who can:

• Work in digital, tech, health, engineering, and creative sectors
• Bring strong problem‑solving, communication, and adaptability
• Handle complex tasks in fast‑changing environments
• Combine technical competence with reliable, resilient behaviour

And they want universities to produce graduates who are job‑ready, with skills that map directly onto real workplace tasks.

but then that does railroad education to be more about advancing the companies and business etc over learning for the subject etc

That’s debate isn’t it? What is the purpose of a university? Is it a place where we look to advance knowledge and understanding or is it a place where we produce work ready graduates?

I’ve worked in higher education for 25 years and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to balance those two competing priorities!

These days, it seems the labour market is driven much more by advancing technology, and £ needs than by the Enlightenment idea of learning purely for the enjoyment of learning.

but then they sell the idea of uni and pritty much any degree without saying whats truly better in terms of earning and business requirements etc

Are you suggesting all humans should stop studying all art forms because of AI? I mean AI produces soulless garbage and will probably get worse if it continues to use its own output for its machine learning and will soon eat itself in that regard. It also has a job to do keyframe animation and certainly won't be able to create anything truly original as of yet.

What some animation studios are doing though is using AI as a tool to help workflow and will just mean greater output, AI is okay if used as a tool to help with processes like inbetweening, simulation or creating libraries of animations that you can reuse with animators guidance. But it will always be an ugly imitation if its just some prompt jockey using it to make slop instead of training it to be a valuable assistant in the creative process.

I disagree with everything you've said.

Immigration went up under the right.

What you have described is not fascism.

The nasty, intolerant, hate-filled people I see spreading their vileness are generally on the right and racist, homophobic, xenophobic...

And reform voters are trying to impose their nasty, intolerant views on everyone. They are also comprised of bullies, people with domestic violence convictions, predominantly white men who have achieved nothing in life due to their own choices and behaviour but want to blame everyone else for it. That's not a cultural identify that's worth saving.

And they'll be on the first space colonisation ships along with all the telephone sanitizers and double glazing salesmen.

If you say so 🤷‍♀️