To think people are overeducated in the UK?

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I am raging about this too be honest and I'm not sure why.

One of the mums at the school apparently lost her corporate job 8 months ago. Found this out today when I ran into her in Lidl in the next town - she was working as a manager there.
We ended up talking later in the day and turns out four of the staff there have masters degrees or above (one has a PhD). Apparently this is a common thing people are doing now as they cant get jobs in their fields
AIBU to think we are completely over educating people in this country now?

Feeling angry I think as DS (18) tried so hard over the summer to get a job like this but am finding out now they are all being taken up by people with lots of degrees!

How are the ‘media studies kids’ going to be the ‘only ones laughing’? I don’t mean to sound snobbish or rude, but I don’t think media studies is helpful at all as it doesn’t teach any helpful skills.

I do find it bizarre that qualifications, regardless of the quality, are seen as useful and equipping young people for life in the modern world.

I have seen pupils with decent but uninspiring GCSEs go on to read STEM A levels, come out with a bunch of Bs and then go on to study, say, engineering at, to put it politely 2nd rate institutions, and come out with good degrees. The B grades can come in at under 50% in Maths and Physics. How can someone who has failed to understand more than 1/2 the A level syllabus understand degree level work?! In reality, they can’t, so the degree is massively dumbed down. And we still have the farce of pretending that all 2 1s are equal, regardless of institution.

(Of course there are exceptions, with pupils maturing later, special factors in A level grades etc, but they are statistically few).

What does a well educated population mean? To me, it means people educated to a suitable level, given their ability, to contribute both economically and socially to the community. If we reduced degrees substantially, we could support those who would truly benefit with cheaper loans and even grants, as I was lucky enough to get.

Most teachers I know think the current system is the worst and this contributed to social mobility being the worst in decades.

It teaches the same academic skills as any other humanities degree.

So less employable than stem?

That depends on what the job market wants.

Ironically, the ignorance of your post goes to show this is not the case…

It doesn’t matter what amazing achievements someone has in their CV, if they did a media studies degree then you know what type of person they are.

😂

They’re a person with a degree.

On the other hand, when someone makes a comment like yours I know exactly what type of person they are.

Put me in a room with a media studies graduate any day of the week.

I am a Russell Group STEM academic but this comment is preposterous, in that it makes any sense at all.

There are strong degree programmes and weak degree programmes in every field, and one nice thing about UK HE is that some less elite universities have strong points of excellence.

This post does speak to a complex problem. Maturity, motivation, and modern teaching and learning methods help. But the core features of the post are a real issue.

We do seem to gave a tier of jobs geared to the students @Newbutoldfather is referring to and the training they have actually received. In this sense it not necessarily a big problem. But the lack of transparency, the myth that all students with eg a 2.1 in a given Engineering discipline have the same backgrounds and can realistically compete for the same jobs - these fictions help no one.

They’re a person who decided to do a media studies degree for 3 years. Tells you everything you need to know really.

In just what way does it ‘ tell you everything you need to know’?

You said previously that if someone does Media Studies degree ‘then you know what type of person they are’.

You have not added an explanation for your statement. This is what we would appreciate.

Actually proper media studies, involving analysis of printed and digital media, AI , PR etc is incredibly useful these days in business and life , I don’t mean the ‘analyse coronation st’ kind.

What exactly is that telling you? Because from here it sounds like you’re just parroting the usual tropes about media studies. You’re one post away from using the term ‘Mickey Mouse Degree’.

I think it should be taught in schools

But not as dim as people who call Farage a fascist. It’s the Left who are the bullies. THEY are the fascists. They have imposed mass immigration and multiculturalism on us, and they have destroyed any sense of shared history and shared culture. No one asked for this and no one voted for it. That is what you call fascism.

As a naive and ignorant teen, I belonged to Left-wing organisations. I have never met such nasty, cruel, brutal, intolerant, hate-filled people. The left is a magnet for bitter people who want revenge on the world.

Reform voters aren’t trying to impose anything on anyone. They are ordinary people desperately clinging on to their national and cultural identity.

I have one word for you - Boriswave. Remind me, didn’t Johnson have a landslide? So people did vote for it.

Did you have some bad experiences along the way? It seems that something made a big impression on you.

One of my favourite hate reads is the comments section on the local news site. I read the headine and try and guess the comments. Most of them show that they have barely construct a coherent, correctly spelt sentence let alone comprehend the contents of the article.

Whenever the electorate has been given a vote on mass immigration, they have voted against it…every single time. It’s nice to know we’ve moved on from pretending it’s not helping at least, it’s now you wanted it.

What are you actually in favour of? Under educating people?

This 100%
I am not from the Uk and actually don’t think it’s a very educated population at all. Anti intellectualism is rife. I had not come across this before I came to this country.

It tells me unmotivated and left wing. They are likely to be a pain from day 1, won’t get on with their colleagues, will be off sick a lot and will harp on about issue de jour like everyone having to display their pronouns on teams or something.

Shows you know nothing about what media studies is.

When people wheel out the “left wing” shit, I think uneducated daily mail reader.