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To think if you can't understand English/Welsh or Gaelic you shouldn't be voting in a British election?

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Yetanotherwaterbottle · 25/02/2026 18:41

Is this unreasonable?

The Greens desperation is doing serious damage to their brand.

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DeepBlueDeer · 26/02/2026 22:18

JHound · 26/02/2026 19:28

We disagree. That’s fine.

Sorry for double-replying, but I'm trying to frame my question better.

Noting that almost every route to British citizenship, other than the typical "inherited through parentage" route that applies to most citizens, requires English language proficiency, which of the limited avenues would you close, or how would you narrow the parentage route?

GreenCaterpillarOnALeaf · 27/02/2026 10:53

JohnBullshit · 25/02/2026 18:48

What exactly are you on about?
My problem is that far too many people vote without even a rudimentary understanding of how our political system works. That's far more prevalent than being unable to speak any of our national languages, and leaves people vulnerable to unscrupulous grifters.

The amount of people I’ve come across who think we directly vote for the PM is insane. They always say “oh we weren’t taught that in school” and I don’t remember getting taught FPTP til college, but surly you pick it up from the news or the fact we get 500 election leaflets for different MPs and MSPs every few years.

Yetanotherwaterbottle · 01/03/2026 17:37

GreenCaterpillarOnALeaf · 27/02/2026 10:53

The amount of people I’ve come across who think we directly vote for the PM is insane. They always say “oh we weren’t taught that in school” and I don’t remember getting taught FPTP til college, but surly you pick it up from the news or the fact we get 500 election leaflets for different MPs and MSPs every few years.

Do you think voting should be reserved for people with a basic understanding of what they are doing?

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Yetanotherwaterbottle · 01/03/2026 17:39

Makayana · 26/02/2026 10:13

Shouldn't be a citizen if you don't know the language. Surely knowing English is a requirement to naturalise anyway?

You would think

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GreenCaterpillarOnALeaf · 01/03/2026 17:46

Yetanotherwaterbottle · 01/03/2026 17:37

Do you think voting should be reserved for people with a basic understanding of what they are doing?

Yes but I think if you introduced any kind of test before voting I think we would need to roll out programs to educate people (in schools but also available and accessible to all adults who wanted to participate). Basic stuff like FPTP, how a majority works, what a coalition government is, ect. Procedural stuff, as depoliticised as possible. I think it would also need to be disability friendly as well and the point shouldn’t be to catch people out, but to help them participate. This would be a huge and costly thing though and probably will never happen.

Yetanotherwaterbottle · 01/03/2026 17:51

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 26/02/2026 14:12

This I think.

I don’t mean that I think people should be banned from voting or made to pass an exam. I think there should be much better, compulsory education re politics and philosophy in schools. And the basics of how economics works. Should help people not to be lead astray so easily! Maybe something about responsible and safe use of social media too? It should be dynamic so that we can respond to new threats.

I think language lessons should be easily and readily available to help people learn at least one of our native languages, but I don’t think it should be a bar to voting. What you’d end up is more women disenfranchised than men - women who are tied to the home through childcare or “cultural” reasons and can’t access education, and elderly women too.

I disagree. People can study politics at a very high level and still be very right wing!

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Yetanotherwaterbottle · 01/03/2026 17:53

GreenCaterpillarOnALeaf · 01/03/2026 17:46

Yes but I think if you introduced any kind of test before voting I think we would need to roll out programs to educate people (in schools but also available and accessible to all adults who wanted to participate). Basic stuff like FPTP, how a majority works, what a coalition government is, ect. Procedural stuff, as depoliticised as possible. I think it would also need to be disability friendly as well and the point shouldn’t be to catch people out, but to help them participate. This would be a huge and costly thing though and probably will never happen.

I mean, these are the very bare bones of it. If that is all we require, then at the time of the test, if all the info fits on to a side of A4 then give them 20 mins to read and understand it, then take the test.

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