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To think if you can't understand English/Welsh or Gaelic you shouldn't be voting in a British election?

82 replies

Yetanotherwaterbottle · 25/02/2026 18:41

Is this unreasonable?

The Greens desperation is doing serious damage to their brand.

OP posts:
TeenagersAngst · 25/02/2026 20:02

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 19:04

What about English speakers who have low levels of literacy and can barely read or write English? Are they allowed to vote? Or would you like to suggest intelligence tests, too, while you're at it.

How patronising. Some people struggle to acquire good levels of literacy for genuine reasons and it has nothing to do with intelligence. It is, however, a precursor to ongoing challenges including a propensity to criminality. Up to 50% of prisoners are functionally illiterate.

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 20:04

Ermmm. Deliberate irony missed there.

TeenagersAngst · 25/02/2026 20:11

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 20:04

Ermmm. Deliberate irony missed there.

So patronising and superior. Ok then.

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 20:13

Not sure what your beef is. Perhaps address the OP's point?

DoAWheelie · 25/02/2026 20:15

Nice to know you think deaf signers and other non-verbal disabled people shouldn't be able to vote OP.

TeenagersAngst · 25/02/2026 20:17

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 20:13

Not sure what your beef is. Perhaps address the OP's point?

I’ll address whatever I like. Your post was offensive by implying that people with low levels of literacy lack intelligence.

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 20:19

I'm very sorry if you missed my point and that is all I shall say. Of course I think people with poor English should have a right to vote. It was my whole point. It's OP and people with these kinds of views who might suggest thta intelligence can be measured and policed. I think you know I meant that, really.

As it goes, the prison population - who you mention- are one of the very few groups that do not get a vote.

It is also deeply deeply offensive to suggest that people whose first language isn't English shouldn't vote.

Havanananana · 25/02/2026 20:26

@Fearlesssloth "Everyone who is a resident of a country has the right to vote for the government of that country."

This is not true. About 10% of adults resident in the UK do not have the right to vote in the UK Parliamentary elections because they are not qualified to do so - mainly because they are not British. For example, none of the European or American citizens resident in the UK can vote in UK Parliamentary elections, even if they are taxpayers. Millions of EU citizens resident and paying tax in the UK were not allowed to vote in the Brexit referendum.

This is not exclusive to the UK, but it does mean that there are millions of people who are subject to taxation but who have no representation in the Parliament of the country in which they live.

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 20:33

Of note is that Commonwealth citizens registered to vote in the constituency can vote. Some of whom may not speak English as a first language , of course.

Scotland and Wales have broader voting eligibility for their own elections.

ColdAsAWitches · 25/02/2026 20:33

FreshInks · 25/02/2026 19:08

I don’t agree with the OP. But immediately jumping to accusations of racism or hurling insults is exactly the kind of reaction that fuels Reform’s rise in popularity. If people want to challenge their appeal, the only effective way to do it is through calm, constructive engagement. Shutting conversations down with insults just pushes more people in their direction, you may as well be campaigning for them.

If you're insulted by being called a racist, maybe you could try not being racist?

SayWibble · 25/02/2026 20:35

I can think of plenty of white British people who were born here who can barely string a coherent sentence together. I wouldn’t trust them to tie their shoe laces, let alone vote.

KTheGrey · 25/02/2026 20:45

Halphabetty · 25/02/2026 18:42

What about Scots?

That’s Gaelic.

FreshInks · 25/02/2026 20:47

ColdAsAWitches · 25/02/2026 20:33

If you're insulted by being called a racist, maybe you could try not being racist?

What did I say that was racists? I’m not even white. I’m terrified of reform getting in, and people who are incapable of calmly engaging with those they disagree with are part of the reason they are getting so many votes.

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 20:50

KTheGrey · 25/02/2026 20:45

That’s Gaelic.

No. It isn't.

KTheGrey · 25/02/2026 20:51

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 20:50

No. It isn't.

Yeah. It is.

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 20:52

Or I should say 'naw it isnae'.

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 20:53

Gaelic is a language spoken in Scotland by a minority of Scots. Scots is another language spoken by some Scots.

mindutopia · 25/02/2026 20:54

Well, first of all, anyone who is allowed to vote in the UK must have either ILR (for, I believe, some local elections) or be a British citizen. And to be either of those things, you must have already passed an English language test or be from an English speaking country and you must pass a Life in the UK test, which requires a grasp of UK history and politics that most British people don’t possess.

I’ve had to do both of the above to become a British citizen and acquire the right to vote. Something that many native British English speakers could benefit from frankly.

KTheGrey · 25/02/2026 20:56

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 20:53

Gaelic is a language spoken in Scotland by a minority of Scots. Scots is another language spoken by some Scots.

Edited

Beg your pardon - I Googled and Scots is indeed a language where I thought it was a dialect.

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 20:57

Commonwealth citizens can vote too. And Irish.

FreeWheezin · 25/02/2026 20:57

A) Bhòt air mo shon mas e do thoil e

B) Na, pleidleisiwch drosof i

Ok OP who are you voting for?

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 21:00

KTheGrey · 25/02/2026 20:56

Beg your pardon - I Googled and Scots is indeed a language where I thought it was a dialect.

Thank you.

Yetanotherwaterbottle · 25/02/2026 21:20

So over half respondents think I'm not being unreasonable, but most the posters are saying I am.

I am willing to bet these posters aren't so quick to defend English migrants in Spain who complain because they can not understand Spanish.

OP posts:
MNdrama · 25/02/2026 23:10

TeenagersAngst · 25/02/2026 20:02

How patronising. Some people struggle to acquire good levels of literacy for genuine reasons and it has nothing to do with intelligence. It is, however, a precursor to ongoing challenges including a propensity to criminality. Up to 50% of prisoners are functionally illiterate.

Never heard of sarcasm?

MNdrama · 25/02/2026 23:16

Yetanotherwaterbottle · 25/02/2026 21:20

So over half respondents think I'm not being unreasonable, but most the posters are saying I am.

I am willing to bet these posters aren't so quick to defend English migrants in Spain who complain because they can not understand Spanish.

How exactly are those related?

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