Am I overreacting to this teacher’s comment?

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I’ll start by saying that I’m a teacher myself -primary. My daughter is in year 7 at high school and today her personal development teacher was talking about stereotypes. He mentioned the stereotype that English women go abroad on holiday, get really drunk and sleep with lots of men.

I’m shocked by the reference to sleeping with lots of people and want to email the school but honestly don’t know if I’m overreacting. I teach in UKS2 and cannot imagine touching on this subject even at the very end of year 6.

Should I accept that this is high school and that stuff like this is ok? Or am I right to be shocked that my 11 year is being exposed to this.

Excellent description of PSHCE.

That’s the point!

Everyone has a story. But it’s also a stereotype ….so perhaps that’s what should be discussed in class.

Well, I suspect they did and that was the point ...

The whole class wasn't just "English women are slags according to stereotypes. Class dismissed"

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I had 3 handsy priests at school and a couple of young maths teachers that were constantly flirting with teenage girls in the class and that's just in school.

Outside, there were many many more pervy men before even reaching 18 (first flasher aged 5 or 6, several dirty old men felt me and other very young girls up on our way to primary school. It got worse in my twenties, lots of gropers in confined spaces such as packed trains or buses, nightclubs, busy streets, etc.

If you haven't met any creepy men, you're the first woman I've ever encountered who hasn't. Even Queen Camilla had to fight off a man with the heel of her shoe on a train when she was a teen.

No but the class weren’t discussing creepy male high school teachers were they?
That’s a very common stereotype.

The sort of type that uses the excuse of talking about a young woman’s sexuality to use as a talking point. Strange how that one came up aeh?!

I can't see where the OP says that 'drunk woman' was the only stereotype mentioned - just that it was mentioned. They may have discussed many others including creepy male teachers dodgy priests and the like.

Sure, of course he did

TBH I don't see any reason why a teacher would be talking about stereotypes like this- how on earth can it be helpful?

Wait until you hear about stereotype of British retired women looking for toyboy in Gambia 🤭

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/inside-gambias-booming-sex-tourism-34083466.amp

www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/08/17/gambia-tells-uk-grandmothers-seek-toy-boys-elsewhere/

Disagree. Secondary school is a long journey. Discussing promiscuity, whether with reference to stereotypes or not is not appropriate for this age group. It should be reserved for year 10 and above. Inexperienced teachers can make this kind of mistake.

I agree. Also a teacher and parent to a yr 7. She does not need to know about these stereotypes. TBH I’d be furious.

They were talking about how stereo types are stupid. You don't understand how to teach critithinkong, do you.

The 3 priests were teachers so were the two maths teachers - all in the one school...
A week doesn't go by without some news story about teachers sexually abusing children. Paedophiles are attracted to the teaching profession because it gives them access to children.

I wouldn't presume that at all based on my own experience in school.

You sound ignorant. He's teaching about stereotypes, and why they are bs. He's not saying its true or anything.

Parents like you are exactly why Gen Alpha is the most under educated ge eration in 200yrs. You make it impossible to actually educate kids, and teach them critical thinking skills. You are literally making your kids DUMBER in the long run.

Yes! Two birds with one stone

He sounds like a creep with experience!

You sound completely delusional. It DOESN'T MATTER what he's teaching, that is not an acceptable example! For a teacher of children of any age, but especially not a man to a group of 11-year-old girls.

OK you are talking about stereotypes (I don't see how it can be helpful , but ok) why go directly to a sexual stereotype with a class which is not sexually active yet? How can an 11 year old be expected to evaluate such a stereotype.
At best unhelpful and at worst downright damaging.

Yes this is exactly what I’m saying

If you knew what critical thinking was you’d question whether that was a) an appropriate topic for school age children b) even a stereotype ( I don’t think it is - I think it’s him saying something offensive and misogynistic about women and framing it as a “stereotype”

Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, it very much is a stereotype. What's more, it's one that is widely held to be true in many places where British people holiday en masse. Surely it's better for our daughters to know this and be prepared for the way it might affect them?