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John Davidson shouting the N word during the BAFTAS

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Crawse · 23/02/2026 10:02

John Davidson has Tourettes and is a campaigner for the condition. Whist Michale B Jordan and Delroy Lindo were presenting he shouted out the racial slur. It’s extremely uncomfortable to watch. I feel terrible for the two presenters. I’m really conflicted on this one.

What are your thoughts?

No one should be subjected to abuse. That is my bottom line. Maybe the fact I was called P*** (I’m half Indian) growing up has influenced my views. I obviously recognise Tourette’s is involuntary.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

British acting awards interrupted by racist slur from man with Tourette Syndrome | CNN

At Sunday night’s BAFTA ceremony in London, a man yelled a racist slur as two of the world’s most celebrated Black actors, Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo, presented an award on stage.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

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Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:40

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 18:38

No, but insisting that something was racial abuse when it was a disabled man's tic, does.

Ok, so not only is racial abuse fine if it comes via a Tourette’s tic but if you object to this then you’re deserving of further abuse on top.

Lovely.

TheEdenSide · 23/02/2026 18:41

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:38

Did you read the quoted posts in full?

The person I was responding to had told another poster, a woman of colour, that her child would be likely to call the poster a racist name if she was to encounter her in real life. And she went on to say that the poster would be the person who was at fault if she took any issue with said child calling her a racial slur.

How many times - the remarks from tics of Tourette’s sufferers are not intentional, they are not meant and not offensive. Therefore there is no offence needed

That POC doesn’t get a “always right” pass just because they’re black. Like anyone else the best thing to do is explain the other child has Tourette’s and can’t help it, and isn’t that sad. Rather than participate in some sort of oppression olympics that helps no one

BTW the way you describe what happened on here is incorrect

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 18:41

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:40

Ok, so not only is racial abuse fine if it comes via a Tourette’s tic but if you object to this then you’re deserving of further abuse on top.

Lovely.

Racial abuse is never fine. This was not racial abuse though. Refusal to see that is ableism.

ScarlettSarah · 23/02/2026 18:41

PointlessTrip · 23/02/2026 18:39

I think most people with emotional intelligence can see that all the affected individuals have suffered here.

Hearing offensive words is difficult. I am Asian. Whilst I have had abuse of all sorts in my life, about my shape, glasses, teeth, etc, it is the P word and racism that have made me feel most humiliated. I can only speak for myself but it’s a complex mix of anger, fear and embarrassment. I also recognise that this was an involuntary tic. I’d like to think that I would be able to rise above it, but I can’t pretend that I wouldn’t have a moment of feeling upset by being called an unpleasant racist name. I would be able to mentally rationalise it as I know what Tourette’s is, but privately my feelings would be momentarily hurt, I would be reminded of the racism in the world and my precious experiences etc and I think that’s okay to have those feelings and process them?

People with Tourette’s cannot help themselves. Their brain automatically goes to the worst possible insult and they end up saying it. I bet they hate themselves for it. We can all look at people who are gay, a different colour, disabled etc and imagine the worst possible insult, but that doesn’t mean that we are prejudiced against them. People with Tourette’s automatically think about the worst possible insult and say it. That does not mean that they are prejudiced. In a way it is actually the opposite of what they actually want to do.

I sometimes think back to when I had a small baby. Looking back, I think I had some kind of anxiety or OCD. I used to get intrusive thoughts of throwing my baby out of the window or dropping him down the stairs. I would imagine doing the worst things to him. Of course I didn’t want to, it was the opposite of that. But my brain was doing weird things. I didn’t confide in anybody because I was so horrified at myself. I know this is not what Tourette is, but I can certainly imagine having the worst possible thoughts un my head, which did not reflect the person I was.

The whole thing seems to have been handled badly. It is such a shame that we are discussing all this rather than celebrating the successes of all the deserving winners.

I feel sorry for those whose nights were spoiled by hearing ‘racist’ words which whilst not intended that way, it may have reminded them of other abuse they had received in their lives, and also reminded them of the historical connotations of the dreadful word. I really hope that they are able to understand and move on from this whilst being heard and understood themselves.

And I really hope that John is doing okay. He has lived a life of shame and no doubt self loathing. My heart really goes out to him. It’s not his fault he has this condition. He is inadvertently a target for abuse and mockery and it is just not fair. He doesn’t want to be this person.

There are no winners here.

Thank you. A very sensible post!

TheEdenSide · 23/02/2026 18:41

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:40

Ok, so not only is racial abuse fine if it comes via a Tourette’s tic but if you object to this then you’re deserving of further abuse on top.

Lovely.

If you’re ableist (which you have been) you deserve to be called out for it

Lucyccfc68 · 23/02/2026 18:42

He can’t change his disability any more than someone of colour can change their skin.

Of course he used a racist word, but it is part of his disability and he can’t control it. Part of his disability also means he told the Queen to Fuck off.

People really need to educate themselves about his disability. He is getting so much abuse and all he has ever tried to do is highlight the disability and educate people around the symptoms and difficulties that people have. He has been hospitalised by people who beat him up because of something he said that is totally out of his control. He was suicidal at one point and now he is having people bully him yet again because of his disability.

Anyone having a go at him or what he said should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

Vivi0 · 23/02/2026 18:42

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:40

Ok, so not only is racial abuse fine if it comes via a Tourette’s tic but if you object to this then you’re deserving of further abuse on top.

Lovely.

Language that comes from a Tourette’s tic is never abuse.

You clearly don’t understand the distinction, but that’s a you problem.

Most people get it.

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:42

TheEdenSide · 23/02/2026 18:41

How many times - the remarks from tics of Tourette’s sufferers are not intentional, they are not meant and not offensive. Therefore there is no offence needed

That POC doesn’t get a “always right” pass just because they’re black. Like anyone else the best thing to do is explain the other child has Tourette’s and can’t help it, and isn’t that sad. Rather than participate in some sort of oppression olympics that helps no one

BTW the way you describe what happened on here is incorrect

Can you please stop this pile on @Forgetnotyet ?

She KNOWS it was unintentional.

You don't need to keep bleating on about it.

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 18:43

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:42

Can you please stop this pile on @Forgetnotyet ?

She KNOWS it was unintentional.

You don't need to keep bleating on about it.

She doesn't know it's unintentional if she's calling it racist abuse.
And there you are with the "bleating" again.

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:44

TheEdenSide · 23/02/2026 18:41

If you’re ableist (which you have been) you deserve to be called out for it

She has not been ableist, she has consistently said she knows the swearing was unintentional. She has simply made the point that for the person hearing the slur, it's racial abuse. You can see this from the way Jordan and Lindo's faces fall when they hear the word.

This pile on by the 94% is unseemly.

Vivi0 · 23/02/2026 18:44

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:42

Can you please stop this pile on @Forgetnotyet ?

She KNOWS it was unintentional.

You don't need to keep bleating on about it.

Perhaps @Forgetnotyet should stop bleating on about “racial abuse”, when there has been no racial abuse.

It would stop the so called pile on.

TheEdenSide · 23/02/2026 18:45

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:38

Did you read the quoted posts in full?

The person I was responding to had told another poster, a woman of colour, that her child would be likely to call the poster a racist name if she was to encounter her in real life. And she went on to say that the poster would be the person who was at fault if she took any issue with said child calling her a racial slur.

Actually what happened was when a poster said her DD, who has Tourette’s, would likely say an insult in public, someone (who has never once said they’re black BTW) came on to say “I don’t care if she has Tourette’s id be offended”. I ask them if they weren’t embarrassed to be so think skinned.

No idea where you got the above from

ChequerToRed · 23/02/2026 18:46

nomas · 23/02/2026 17:56

This is why I stay on these threads. Chip beneath the surface, and the ugly underbelly soon shows itself.

You seem to operate from an incredibly fixed and hierarchical oppression stack, and probably consider yourself to be an empathetic person, but your empathy looks more rote than organic, and your oppression stack is incredibly fixed with no grey areas or room for nuance.
When people are like that and also set themselves up as some sort of progressive moral arbiter, their inflexibility can seem just as prejudiced as they accuse and insinuate of others.
I don’t care what reply you write, and I doubt you’ll reflect on what I say anyway, too ego bruising. Probably just accuse me of something or another like a latter day Mathew Hopkins waving his copy of the Malleus Maleficarum, but it’ll be a waste of pixels as I won’t read it.

kkloo · 23/02/2026 18:46

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:38

Did you read the quoted posts in full?

The person I was responding to had told another poster, a woman of colour, that her child would be likely to call the poster a racist name if she was to encounter her in real life. And she went on to say that the poster would be the person who was at fault if she took any issue with said child calling her a racial slur.

Yep I read it, the poster said she wouldn't care if the child said she couldn't help it.

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:46

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 18:43

She doesn't know it's unintentional if she's calling it racist abuse.
And there you are with the "bleating" again.

Even Jamie Foxx has said it's heard as racist abuse even though it's unintentional.

That doesn't mean people don't understand that it was unintentional.

People are allowed to feel hurt and know it wasn't intentional.

clickthat · 23/02/2026 18:47

It makes me sad that the wonderful film about his life has lead to this unfortunate incident. Also makes me sad that a previously suicidal man is getting bombarded with hate and ignorance online. Hope he has support.

SlipperStar · 23/02/2026 18:47

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 17:46

Have I? Please point out any inaccuracy.
You have just said you don't think the N word is SUCH an issue.

The fact you don't think white slavery is currently a massive issue for one

TheEdenSide · 23/02/2026 18:47

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:40

Ok, so not only is racial abuse fine if it comes via a Tourette’s tic but if you object to this then you’re deserving of further abuse on top.

Lovely.

It’s not abuse.

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:47

TheEdenSide · 23/02/2026 18:45

Actually what happened was when a poster said her DD, who has Tourette’s, would likely say an insult in public, someone (who has never once said they’re black BTW) came on to say “I don’t care if she has Tourette’s id be offended”. I ask them if they weren’t embarrassed to be so think skinned.

No idea where you got the above from

You can't stop someone feeling offended. It doesn't mean they're going to charge you with a crime.

PointlessTrip · 23/02/2026 18:47

clickthat · 23/02/2026 17:43

You’ve misunderstood.

Black people don’t hold the monopoly on bad things happening to them. So I don’t see why the N word is SUCH an issue compared with other slurs.

It is an interesting and important question. I think the N word is actually worse than other insults. It is so tied up in history with slavery and appalling brutality and lynchings in the US. Even now, many black
people are targets for systemic inequality and institutional racism. I am Asian and hate being called the P word. But for me it does not have quite the same historic connotations as the N word. That’s just my take on it, I don’t expect everyone to agree.

Anyway, it probably merits a discussion on its own. But I don’t think it would go well on this site so best avoided.

TheEdenSide · 23/02/2026 18:49

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:42

Can you please stop this pile on @Forgetnotyet ?

She KNOWS it was unintentional.

You don't need to keep bleating on about it.

She clearly doesn’t as she keeps saying JD was abusive

And no, I always call out ableism

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 18:50

SlipperStar · 23/02/2026 18:47

The fact you don't think white slavery is currently a massive issue for one

You think bringing up white slavery is relevant to this thread? I disagree.

Vivi0 · 23/02/2026 18:50

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:46

Even Jamie Foxx has said it's heard as racist abuse even though it's unintentional.

That doesn't mean people don't understand that it was unintentional.

People are allowed to feel hurt and know it wasn't intentional.

Jamie Foxx said “nah he meant that shit”.

He clearly doesn’t understand that it was unintentional.

Just like the poster on this thread who keeps calling it “racial abuse”.

Shego · 23/02/2026 18:50

I have been on Mumsnet for nearly 20 yrs and I've never been so disgusted by a comment as I am by some on this thread.

Utterly awful, and totally ignorant to suggest that someone with this disability should be in an institution, or never leave their house. If you really want to know why people with tourettes can just train themselves to say something neutral, go and do some fucking research.

I am furious with the BBC that they didn't edit this out, they are the only ones who have anything to be ask of here. How dare they bring this kind of unnecessary and cruel attention to this amazing man who already has so much to struggle with.

TheEdenSide · 23/02/2026 18:50

John Davidson has released a statement saying he’s deeply mortified.
Poor man, what he does for Tourette’s sufferers is extraordinary, he has done 100x more wonderful things than the bigots on this thread, and ableist dummies STILL call him abusive and racist.

He shouldn’t have to apologise

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