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John Davidson shouting the N word during the BAFTAS

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Crawse · 23/02/2026 10:02

John Davidson has Tourettes and is a campaigner for the condition. Whist Michale B Jordan and Delroy Lindo were presenting he shouted out the racial slur. It’s extremely uncomfortable to watch. I feel terrible for the two presenters. I’m really conflicted on this one.

What are your thoughts?

No one should be subjected to abuse. That is my bottom line. Maybe the fact I was called P*** (I’m half Indian) growing up has influenced my views. I obviously recognise Tourette’s is involuntary.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

British acting awards interrupted by racist slur from man with Tourette Syndrome | CNN

At Sunday night’s BAFTA ceremony in London, a man yelled a racist slur as two of the world’s most celebrated Black actors, Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo, presented an award on stage.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

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clickthat · 23/02/2026 18:29

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:27

We're white people (although that's occasionally debatable even though we're about as pale as people get outside of a physical condition) and the slurs are aimed at us by people of all nationalities and colours.

Imagine how much worse it is for black people.

At least you haven't had people on this thread tell you that's not such an issue for people to say Paddy etc, as they have said about the N word.

Edited

Are you wilfully being obtuse?

Why do you get to decide the N word is worse than ‘paddy’? You’ve even spelled it out in whole.

Mt563 · 23/02/2026 18:30

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 23/02/2026 18:21

You literally do want him hidden so that people don’t get offended by his disability though. There’s no strawman here. Shameful. Total lack of empathy.

Right? The only other way to interpret this is that it's not OK to offend rich, famous black men but for ordinary black people, offend away (because I think the argument is he shouldn't have gone to the event but he can still go out and about).

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 18:30

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:28

So objecting to racial abuse makes you an ableist little wetwipe does it?

No, it makes you a decent human being. The same as those who object to people not bothering to understand tourettes and its debilitating effects.

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:30

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 18:29

Don't make things up - I've never claimed there was no issue with the n-word. I've pointed out that there's a difference of intent between someone using it as a deliberate slur, and a disabled man's tic.

You've misread the post, I asked you about the poster who said the word's not an issue that and your lack of response to them. I didn't say you said it.

TheEdenSide · 23/02/2026 18:31

Isthateveryonethen · 23/02/2026 18:26

Why would he should something so racist though? Is it not in his mind already? Why that particular thing?

There have been ample explanations of why this happens with many people living with Tourette’s.

The same way he has called women sluts and whores - he doesn’t think that, but it’s the most offensive thing to say about a woman so it just pops out.

He apparently also shouted “I love bears” when Paddington came on. It’s not all insults.

Vivi0 · 23/02/2026 18:31

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:28

So objecting to racial abuse makes you an ableist little wetwipe does it?

You can keep saying “racial abuse” over and over again, but it doesn’t make it so.

What part of “it’s a Tourette’s tic” is it that you are failing to grasp?

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 18:32

Isittimeformynapyet · 23/02/2026 18:04

Years ago I saw a documentary about routes in which a young, male sufferer was being seen by a consultant with red hair and he shouted out "ginger pubes!"

It's as though the brain thinks "what's the worst thing I could say right now?" and then out it comes.

That's him! That is John. See also "up to my knees in cowpats!" 😂

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:32

clickthat · 23/02/2026 18:29

Are you wilfully being obtuse?

Why do you get to decide the N word is worse than ‘paddy’? You’ve even spelled it out in whole.

I didn't say any word is worse. I spelled it out because the Irish person who posted it spelled it out.

Why aren't you asking them why they spelled it out?

kkloo · 23/02/2026 18:32

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If I had a child with Tourettes I wouldn't apologise for them, but if I had a very ignorant and intolerant family member like yourself I'd apologise on your behalf!!

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:32

Vivi0 · 23/02/2026 18:27

It may well have been hurtful, but it’s certainly not racial abuse.

The man has Tourette’s syndrome.

You seem like the kind of person who has definitely said the words “educate yourself” once or twice, so I suggest you do the same. Educate yourself.

Nope, I have never told anyone to educate themselves. That would be a lazy and evasive response. Don’t put words into my mouth.

As I said, John shouting “n*gger” may not have been INTENDED as abuse but it FUNCTIONED in the same way.

It would have produced the same shock, the same hurt and the same humiliation in the people it was seemingly aimed at.

Do you understand?

TheEdenSide · 23/02/2026 18:33

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:28

So objecting to racial abuse makes you an ableist little wetwipe does it?

Objecting to the uncontrolled symptoms of disabled people makes you an ableist little wet wipe.

What aren’t you getting?

But hey if racism offends you there’s plenty of things to be offended about. Get mad about what ICE is doing to POC in the US. Get mad about racism in football. Don’t get mad about something which has no offence (because there’s no intent) and is said by someone who literally cannot help it

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 18:35

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:19

Calling people racist slurs is always abusive. You are gaslighting.

No it isn't, in contexts like this. The man is disabled, he has coprololia - there is no intent to abuse anyone.

It's actually a really horrible thing to say.

clickthat · 23/02/2026 18:35

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:32

I didn't say any word is worse. I spelled it out because the Irish person who posted it spelled it out.

Why aren't you asking them why they spelled it out?

My beef is with you.

Vivi0 · 23/02/2026 18:35

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:32

Nope, I have never told anyone to educate themselves. That would be a lazy and evasive response. Don’t put words into my mouth.

As I said, John shouting “n*gger” may not have been INTENDED as abuse but it FUNCTIONED in the same way.

It would have produced the same shock, the same hurt and the same humiliation in the people it was seemingly aimed at.

Do you understand?

I understand that it would have been hurtful to hear. But that still doesn’t make it racial abuse.

Why are you so intent on interpreting the tics of someone with Tourette’s as abuse?

TheEdenSide · 23/02/2026 18:36

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:32

Nope, I have never told anyone to educate themselves. That would be a lazy and evasive response. Don’t put words into my mouth.

As I said, John shouting “n*gger” may not have been INTENDED as abuse but it FUNCTIONED in the same way.

It would have produced the same shock, the same hurt and the same humiliation in the people it was seemingly aimed at.

Do you understand?

Do you understand that it’s not abuse?

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 23/02/2026 18:36

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:26

No, not hidden. No need for the dishonest hyperbole.

But if he’s likely to shout racial abuse at people of colour when he encounters them then there IS a conflict of interests around his attendance at events where he’s going to be sharing space with any.

You literally did say he should be hidden away so he didn’t offend the privileged healthy wealthy men though. In many ways HE has more of a right to be there than them as a film about him was being celebrated.

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 18:37

Isthateveryonethen · 23/02/2026 18:26

Why would he should something so racist though? Is it not in his mind already? Why that particular thing?

Because he suffers from coprolalia, which makes you say the most taboo, socially inappropriate things in the context of the situation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprolalia

"Coprolalia encompasses the uncontrollable utterance of words and phrases that are culturally taboo or generally unsuitable for acceptable social use"

Coprolalia - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprolalia

nomas · 23/02/2026 18:37

clickthat · 23/02/2026 18:35

My beef is with you.

Clearly!

loislovesstewie · 23/02/2026 18:37

Isthateveryonethen · 23/02/2026 18:26

Why would he should something so racist though? Is it not in his mind already? Why that particular thing?

This has been explained countless times on here.

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:38

kkloo · 23/02/2026 18:32

If I had a child with Tourettes I wouldn't apologise for them, but if I had a very ignorant and intolerant family member like yourself I'd apologise on your behalf!!

Did you read the quoted posts in full?

The person I was responding to had told another poster, a woman of colour, that her child would be likely to call the poster a racist name if she was to encounter her in real life. And she went on to say that the poster would be the person who was at fault if she took any issue with said child calling her a racial slur.

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 18:38

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:28

So objecting to racial abuse makes you an ableist little wetwipe does it?

No, but insisting that something was racial abuse when it was a disabled man's tic, does.

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 18:39

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 23/02/2026 18:36

You literally did say he should be hidden away so he didn’t offend the privileged healthy wealthy men though. In many ways HE has more of a right to be there than them as a film about him was being celebrated.

No, I did not literally say that.

Can you quote the post where I literally say this man should be “hidden away”?

PointlessTrip · 23/02/2026 18:39

I think most people with emotional intelligence can see that all the affected individuals have suffered here.

Hearing offensive words is difficult. I am Asian. Whilst I have had abuse of all sorts in my life, about my shape, glasses, teeth, etc, it is the P word and racism that have made me feel most humiliated. I can only speak for myself but it’s a complex mix of anger, fear and embarrassment. I also recognise that this was an involuntary tic. I’d like to think that I would be able to rise above it, but I can’t pretend that I wouldn’t have a moment of feeling upset by being called an unpleasant racist name. I would be able to mentally rationalise it as I know what Tourette’s is, but privately my feelings would be momentarily hurt, I would be reminded of the racism in the world and my precious experiences etc and I think that’s okay to have those feelings and process them?

People with Tourette’s cannot help themselves. Their brain automatically goes to the worst possible insult and they end up saying it. I bet they hate themselves for it. We can all look at people who are gay, a different colour, disabled etc and imagine the worst possible insult, but that doesn’t mean that we are prejudiced against them. People with Tourette’s automatically think about the worst possible insult and say it. That does not mean that they are prejudiced. In a way it is actually the opposite of what they actually want to do.

I sometimes think back to when I had a small baby. Looking back, I think I had some kind of anxiety or OCD. I used to get intrusive thoughts of throwing my baby out of the window or dropping him down the stairs. I would imagine doing the worst things to him. Of course I didn’t want to, it was the opposite of that. But my brain was doing weird things. I didn’t confide in anybody because I was so horrified at myself. I know this is not what Tourette is, but I can certainly imagine having the worst possible thoughts un my head, which did not reflect the person I was.

The whole thing seems to have been handled badly. It is such a shame that we are discussing all this rather than celebrating the successes of all the deserving winners.

I feel sorry for those whose nights were spoiled by hearing ‘racist’ words which whilst not intended that way, it may have reminded them of other abuse they had received in their lives, and also reminded them of the historical connotations of the dreadful word. I really hope that they are able to understand and move on from this whilst being heard and understood themselves.

And I really hope that John is doing okay. He has lived a life of shame and no doubt self loathing. My heart really goes out to him. It’s not his fault he has this condition. He is inadvertently a target for abuse and mockery and it is just not fair. He doesn’t want to be this person.

There are no winners here.

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 18:40

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 23/02/2026 18:36

You literally did say he should be hidden away so he didn’t offend the privileged healthy wealthy men though. In many ways HE has more of a right to be there than them as a film about him was being celebrated.

Delroy Lindo is a Windrush child. He came here with nothing. The film ' Sinners' is about black music. He and MBJ and Hannah Beachley had a right to be there.

I am tired of this privilege argument.
JD had a right to be there. So did the two presenters. So did everyone invited.

Skinnysaluki · 23/02/2026 18:40

Crawse · 23/02/2026 10:02

John Davidson has Tourettes and is a campaigner for the condition. Whist Michale B Jordan and Delroy Lindo were presenting he shouted out the racial slur. It’s extremely uncomfortable to watch. I feel terrible for the two presenters. I’m really conflicted on this one.

What are your thoughts?

No one should be subjected to abuse. That is my bottom line. Maybe the fact I was called P*** (I’m half Indian) growing up has influenced my views. I obviously recognise Tourette’s is involuntary.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

If you ‘obviously recognise that Tourette’s is involuntary’ then you’ll know that this was in no way deliberate.

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