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John Davidson shouting the N word during the BAFTAS

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Crawse · 23/02/2026 10:02

John Davidson has Tourettes and is a campaigner for the condition. Whist Michale B Jordan and Delroy Lindo were presenting he shouted out the racial slur. It’s extremely uncomfortable to watch. I feel terrible for the two presenters. I’m really conflicted on this one.

What are your thoughts?

No one should be subjected to abuse. That is my bottom line. Maybe the fact I was called P*** (I’m half Indian) growing up has influenced my views. I obviously recognise Tourette’s is involuntary.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

British acting awards interrupted by racist slur from man with Tourette Syndrome | CNN

At Sunday night’s BAFTA ceremony in London, a man yelled a racist slur as two of the world’s most celebrated Black actors, Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo, presented an award on stage.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

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GingerBeverage · 23/02/2026 12:33

Is it because he is white that there is such outrage?

Are there no black or asian people with similar Tourette’s tics?

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 12:34

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 12:26

People can exclude whoever they want from their wedding for whatever reason they want.

Excluding someone with a disability purely for that reason, would imo make that person a cunt.

But it's still their choice.

Are people cunts for excluding children? Or are children somehow an exception?

JonesTown · 23/02/2026 12:35

GingerBeverage · 23/02/2026 12:33

Is it because he is white that there is such outrage?

Are there no black or asian people with similar Tourette’s tics?

Yes, almost certainly. Some on the far left believe that white men can’t possibly suffer any disadvantage.

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 12:35

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 12:30

If you had a colleague with Tourette's who shouts racist abuse coming to your wedding would you warn your non-white friends beforehand so they could choose whether to be on the receiving end of it? Or just judge them from your high horse when they left? If the colleague shouted at children and frightened them would you tell their parents they are cunts for leaving?

I would warn everyone having first consulted the person with Tourette's to discuss the best way to do that.

No I wouldn't tell anyone they would be a cunt for leaving.

I just wouldn't be the sort of cunt who would exclude someone from my wedding, due to their neurological condition.

Smartiepants79 · 23/02/2026 12:35

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 12:00

Exactly what I said. They look at the person, and their brain involuntarily picks out the most appropriate insult, in their opinion.

It is completely not what you said!
Do you understand what ‘involuntary’ actually means because from your posts it seems not.
The person is NOT choosing the word. He is not actively sitting there thinking ‘oh, I wonder what the most offensive thing I can say is??’
Read the information that people are giving you.

GreatAuntytobe · 23/02/2026 12:36

Just read Hannah Beachler's comments, that poor woman probably had what should have been one of the best nights of her life absolutely ruined. John might have also ruined his own night but he really should have stayed away or watched from a distance, if he knew he was likely to racially abuse people. Why are his feelings more important than hers? Before I'm accused of being ableist or whatever, most people with a disability don't abuse other people. Someone in a wheelchair isn't going to cause distress to other people (I know because dh uses one), but John knows his disability is going to cause major upset and that he's going to be in a situation where someone is on stage and he is going to humiliate them and himself, in front of millions of people. If I was him I'd definitely keep away from situations like that.

YourFluentQuoter · 23/02/2026 12:37

It's an interesting discussion.

Where do we draw the line when inclusivity causes harm to others?

Wasn't it John who involuntarily smacks his dog? or otherwise puts the dog at risk of harm?

Society generally prioritises dogs above humans for some reason so that'll disturb SM more than using the N word.

CuppaTeaBab · 23/02/2026 12:37

I see both sides here, yes he has Tourettes, I really feel for him, it must be so exhausting, however it doesn't change the fact that the word he used hurt people. I know he had no intention and he must feel the worst, but he still hurt feelings.

I'm so on the fence with this one, I see both sides.

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 12:40

Smartiepants79 · 23/02/2026 12:35

It is completely not what you said!
Do you understand what ‘involuntary’ actually means because from your posts it seems not.
The person is NOT choosing the word. He is not actively sitting there thinking ‘oh, I wonder what the most offensive thing I can say is??’
Read the information that people are giving you.

Good gracious. Yes, I realise that they are not consciously choosing the word, but clearly their brain is choosing the words they use or they'd just shout sheer nonsense or mismatching swear words, instead of applicable insults, wouldn't they?

If you brought up a child with Tourettte's and this particular tic to believe that the most offensive thing you can say to a black person is 'duvet cover!' then that's what they'd shout, I'm sure. The 'involuntary' indicates that they can't help it, and don't want to, but clearly their subconscious brain is still operating and 'deciding' on what the most offensive phrase would be.

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 12:40

NemesisInferior · 23/02/2026 12:15

If you know someone well enough to consider inviting them to your wedding but you exclude them solely because they are disabled, then yes, that makes you a bigot in my view.

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They are being excluded because the bride does not want to be abused on her wedding day. Who would?

nomas · 23/02/2026 12:43

Nevermind17 · 23/02/2026 11:48

You’re assuming that the actors are feeling the same way you would feel. My mixed race (half white half Asian) DD regularly gets racially insulted at work by customers - both white and Asian. It’s water off a duck’s back to her, she’s the most thick skinned person I’ve ever met. It makes (white) me 100 times more angry than it does her.

What is with this modern obsession with choosing a ‘side’? You don’t need to come down on one side or the other. You can express sympathy for BOTH sides at once. Feeling sympathy for JD doesn’t mean you don’t also feel sympathy for the actors, or that you’re racist. The whole #TeamWhatever is madness.

Oh please don’t start this shit, Asian people absolutely DO mind being racially abused.

It haunts us for fucking years, we never forget, so just STOP IT.

NemesisInferior · 23/02/2026 12:43

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 12:40

They are being excluded because the bride does not want to be abused on her wedding day. Who would?

Decent people would have the ability to understand that it's a disability and make allowances as such, just like decent people would ensure that if a guest had mobility issues they would be equally accomodated.

It's not hard.

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 23/02/2026 12:44

Your comparison of a flying object doesn't ring true. People choose to take offence or not. I would never use a word like that but this was entirely involuntary - no malicious intent - and directly caused by someone's disability. So in this case I think you're being VU

nomas · 23/02/2026 12:45

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 12:14

Hannah Beachler, the production designer of "Sinners" and a black woman, says Davidson used racial slurs three times. once to her. And she is offended by the "throw away apology". Can't say I blame her. HannahBeachler on X: "I keep trying to write about what happened at the BAFTAs, and I can't find the words. The situation is almost impossible, but it happened 3 times that night, and one of the three times was directed at myself on the way to dinner after the show." / X

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That’s awful. He should have kept away and not approached her.

itsthetea · 23/02/2026 12:45

I think calling it abuse is wrong

a PP pointed out that an accidental elbow is the face isn’t abuse - but a deliberate one would be a criminal offence

john did not abuse anyone. He used words that are usually terms of abuse but it was not abuse

itsthetea · 23/02/2026 12:46

No he shouldn’t be excluded from life because people are eager to take offence

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 12:46

The BBC has now said it will edit out the slur from iplayer. Good move but a bit late

From Variety:
"The BBC has apologized for not editing out a racial slur from the BAFTA Film Awards and will remove it from the version of the broadcast on iPlayer. "Some viewers may have heard strong and offensive language during the BAFTA Film Awards. This arose from involuntary verbal tics associated with Tourette syndrome, and as explained during the ceremony it was not intentional. We apologize that this was not edited out prior to broadcast and it will now be removed from the version on BBC iPlayer."

nomas · 23/02/2026 12:46

NemesisInferior · 23/02/2026 12:15

If you know someone well enough to consider inviting them to your wedding but you exclude them solely because they are disabled, then yes, that makes you a bigot in my view.

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She wouldn’t be excluding them because they’re disabled, she would be excluding them because she doesn’t want to be called a ‘n”””””’ on what should be the happiest day of her life.

Alpacajigsaw · 23/02/2026 12:47

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 12:40

Good gracious. Yes, I realise that they are not consciously choosing the word, but clearly their brain is choosing the words they use or they'd just shout sheer nonsense or mismatching swear words, instead of applicable insults, wouldn't they?

If you brought up a child with Tourettte's and this particular tic to believe that the most offensive thing you can say to a black person is 'duvet cover!' then that's what they'd shout, I'm sure. The 'involuntary' indicates that they can't help it, and don't want to, but clearly their subconscious brain is still operating and 'deciding' on what the most offensive phrase would be.

Only if you brought them up away from society. People don’t just get their knowledge of what’s acceptable or unacceptable in the outside world from their parents. In this case anyway that’s a poor example as John didn’t know he had Tourette’s til he was much older and there wasn’t much understanding/support for the condition.

OotontheRandan · 23/02/2026 12:49

I hate the idea that people think John should stay away from an event where film about his own life story, highlighting the difficulties of life with Tourettes, was nominated for awards. His life is good enough for entertainment, but his real life should be kept in a back room or hidden away?

He said "fuck the queen" to her face when he received his MBE. should he have stayed at home and got it in the post, rather than attend and receive recognition for the work he has done raising awareness about his disability?

Equally, the idea that people should be ok racist words being said to them by virtue of them being rich adults is ridiculous. Having racist abuse targeted at you should never be accepted or acceptable. I feel so sorry for Michael B Jordan and Delroy Lindo.

John's condition isnt a mask for racism. He has explained in the documentaries about him, his work and through his film, that he doesn't think these thoughts and is purely incapable of holding them in. These are the worst things he can say but he is compelled to say them.

I mean, Lewis Capaldi spoke about how holding in his physical tics was actually painful. I can imagine making any attempt to hold in physical or verbal tics results in physical pain and even worse tics.

Surely the blame for all the outrage should be on the BBC for not censoring what John said, knowing that taken out of context it is even worse for everyone involved.

LeopardSnow · 23/02/2026 12:49

GreatAuntytobe · 23/02/2026 12:36

Just read Hannah Beachler's comments, that poor woman probably had what should have been one of the best nights of her life absolutely ruined. John might have also ruined his own night but he really should have stayed away or watched from a distance, if he knew he was likely to racially abuse people. Why are his feelings more important than hers? Before I'm accused of being ableist or whatever, most people with a disability don't abuse other people. Someone in a wheelchair isn't going to cause distress to other people (I know because dh uses one), but John knows his disability is going to cause major upset and that he's going to be in a situation where someone is on stage and he is going to humiliate them and himself, in front of millions of people. If I was him I'd definitely keep away from situations like that.

But he could cause insult to anyone at any time. He could be walking past a hospital and see someone beaming at their new baby, and call them a peado, inadvertently causing them distress on the best day of their life (the day their child is born). Or be on a buss with someone who is crying because she’s had a breast cancer diagnosis and call her sh*t tits.

Hannah herself describes it really eloquently “I understand and deeply know why this is an impossible situation. I know we must handle this with grace and continue to push through.”

She acknowledges that the situation is impossible. She is upset that the BBC used the phrase “if you were offended”

boxofbuttons · 23/02/2026 12:50

GingerBeverage · 23/02/2026 12:33

Is it because he is white that there is such outrage?

Are there no black or asian people with similar Tourette’s tics?

There's a black woman speaking on Tiktok this morning who has the same tic John Davidson used. She's doing a very good job of explaining that it's involuntary and that the taboo of it is often the (again, involuntary) driving force behind it.

JonesTown · 23/02/2026 12:51

GreatAuntytobe · 23/02/2026 12:36

Just read Hannah Beachler's comments, that poor woman probably had what should have been one of the best nights of her life absolutely ruined. John might have also ruined his own night but he really should have stayed away or watched from a distance, if he knew he was likely to racially abuse people. Why are his feelings more important than hers? Before I'm accused of being ableist or whatever, most people with a disability don't abuse other people. Someone in a wheelchair isn't going to cause distress to other people (I know because dh uses one), but John knows his disability is going to cause major upset and that he's going to be in a situation where someone is on stage and he is going to humiliate them and himself, in front of millions of people. If I was him I'd definitely keep away from situations like that.

A film about his life (that many more people clearly need to watch) won awards. He shouldn’t have been kept at home like some sort of leper due to a condition he can’t help.

All audience members should have been informed of his attendance, and I would then expect them to deal with it in a way that acknowledges the lack of offensive intent.

The Queen dealt with it extremely deftly when he shouted “Fuck the Queen” on receiving his MBE.

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 12:52

nomas · 23/02/2026 12:46

She wouldn’t be excluding them because they’re disabled, she would be excluding them because she doesn’t want to be called a ‘n”””””’ on what should be the happiest day of her life.

Which would be excluding them because they have a disability known as Tourette's.

So, excluding them because they are disabled.

This should be really really easy for most people to understand.

Forgetnotyet · 23/02/2026 12:52

The lack of empathy on here towards the Black men who were called “n*ggers” is chilling.

‘Verbal abuse’ is CALLED ‘abuse’ for good reason.

The n-word ISN’T ever just a word. It is loaded with dehumanisation and degradation.

That word is traumatic and humiliating for Black people to hear from the mouths of white people (although I’m sure there will be plenty of replies on here from people claiming that they’re Black and they don’t mind 🙄 👀)

That’s why it’s rare to even see it printed anywhere these days, even in publications that spell ‘cunt’ and ‘fuck’ out in full.

It’s a reminder of violence and humiliation, of racial hierarchy and discrimination.

It must have been shocking and painful for Michael B Jordan and Delroy Lindo to be reminded that no matter how successful they are, they can still be subjected to hateful racist abuse onstage in front of their industry peers and a tv audience of millions.

It must have hurt them both like hell, especially as they had to stay on stage and keep smiling while processing what had just happened.

It blows my mind that people on here don’t seem to get that, or to care.

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