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John Davidson shouting the N word during the BAFTAS

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Crawse · 23/02/2026 10:02

John Davidson has Tourettes and is a campaigner for the condition. Whist Michale B Jordan and Delroy Lindo were presenting he shouted out the racial slur. It’s extremely uncomfortable to watch. I feel terrible for the two presenters. I’m really conflicted on this one.

What are your thoughts?

No one should be subjected to abuse. That is my bottom line. Maybe the fact I was called P*** (I’m half Indian) growing up has influenced my views. I obviously recognise Tourette’s is involuntary.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

British acting awards interrupted by racist slur from man with Tourette Syndrome | CNN

At Sunday night’s BAFTA ceremony in London, a man yelled a racist slur as two of the world’s most celebrated Black actors, Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo, presented an award on stage.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

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DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 12:13

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 12:09

Well, I remember back during Covid, it was all the rage.

My take is that I find it upsetting to be verbally abused, so I would try to avoid spending time in the company of people who verbally abuse me, even though I understand that it's involuntary. I don't think that should be a shocking take.

I can also understand if the two actors are upset by that being shouted, as it could taint the moment for them. I think it's strange for people to insist they shouldn't be upset, if indeed they are (who knows!)

I really think you should stay away from disabled people tbh, so it's all good.

NemesisInferior · 23/02/2026 12:14

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 12:03

I didn't say they secretly want to say the things. I said it means they are thinking the thing when they look at you. Which is just what you've said.

Personally, I would find it discomfiting to know that the foremost thing in a person's mind when they look at me is, 'oh she's fat' - which the Tourette's then involuntarily turns into an insult. But clearly my fatness would be the most notable thing about me to them, or they'd insult me regarding something else. That's not a very pleasant thing.

Being black or overweight isn't an insult in and of itself. The insult is when someone makes a judgement on someone based upon a physical characteristic of a person and turns that into something derogatory.

I get that it's not nice to have a slur shouted at you, whatever that slur may be - but if there is no actual intent or in this case concious thought behind it, then it's not an insult.

nam3c4ang3 · 23/02/2026 12:14

He has Tourette's fgs - he literally cant help himself, please educate yourself on what Tourette's actually is before starting such a thread.

NemesisInferior · 23/02/2026 12:15

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 12:13

So even on her wedding day she must put someone else's feelings first lest she be cast as a bad person?

If you know someone well enough to consider inviting them to your wedding but you exclude them solely because they are disabled, then yes, that makes you a bigot in my view.

IfThen · 23/02/2026 12:15

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 12:00

Exactly what I said. They look at the person, and their brain involuntarily picks out the most appropriate insult, in their opinion.

That’s not what I said. Take the emotion out of it. The same person will shout ‘I’ve got a bomb in my bag!’ at airport security without having an internal conversation with themselves about whether it would be more taboo to say the security guard giving him a pat down is a paedophile. The student who shouted ‘Cunt!’ at me throughout lectures wasn’t deciding whether ‘Cunt’ was more offensive than ‘Ugly bitch!’

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 23/02/2026 12:16

boxofbuttons · 23/02/2026 12:07

I think a lot of people are missing the point that competing rights or accommodations sometimes just won't be compatible. I absolutely think that no black person should have to listen to slurs. I also absolutely think that no person with coprolalia as part of their disability should have to be sequestered away from public life to prevent harm from something they said. These things cannot be compatible with each other, that's it. That's how it works sometimes.

All the Mumsnet/Reddit/Twitter/whatever threads in the world debating it back and forth are not going to magically find a way round the fact that sometimes there is no way that everyone can both be compatibly and completely accommodated and supported and that's that.

As I understand it, people were warned in advance about the possibility of this happening. That also raises an issue.

Thought experiment, not a suggestion, thought experiment…. Imagine if they all decided to stay away rather than risk being exposed to slurs. Or it was decided by the organisers, that recognising this clash was going to happen, PoC should stay home, and we ended up with an all white event.

Of course for John it solves nothing as he’s still going to shout something offensive. Just with a different target.

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 12:16

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 12:13

If she's his friend, he might know that her weight bothers her, rather than him thinking that of her.

Well, that's almost worse!

I don't know. As I've said, I know it's involuntary, but I can't blame people for not wanting to subject themselves to verbal abuse that repeatedly targets their insecurities, or for being upset by being called the n-word on stage.

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 12:17

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 12:12

Since people are calling it abuse -

If you're standing near your husband and he opens a cupboard and accidently elbows you in the nose it will hurt but you'll understand it was a total accident.

If you're standing near your husband and he turns around and intentionally punches you in the nose, that's abuse.

Same outcome of being sore, but different intentions entirely.

Same things here, the words may hurt, but the intention matters, and there was no intention, it was a totally involuntary tic.

This is an eloquent and very well thought out explanation that only the wilfully obtuse or painfully ignorant won't understand and/or will argue with.

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · 23/02/2026 12:18

titchy · 23/02/2026 10:46

And should he have removed himself whenever a woman was on stage in case he shouted ‘cunt’? Perhaps he should lock himself away full stop.

The irony on this thread is something else isn’t it?

Where did I say he should lock himself away full stop? That’s quite the leap you’ve taken.

Ukefluke · 23/02/2026 12:19

Bewareofstepfords · 23/02/2026 11:50

I'm fascinated as to why it's often obscenities and racial slurs that Tourettes sufferers can't stop themselves shouting.
There must be so many non-offensive words stored in their memory banks that could trip out instead.
Weird that those black presenters were assailed by the n word instead of one of a thousand other, benign, nouns.

Thats the point. The condition literally makes them say the worse thing imaginable.

I saw a program where somebody called his famale case worker everything from a cunt to a whore in between speaking to her perfectly nicely.

Its a condition. What is difficult to understand?

itsthetea · 23/02/2026 12:19

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · 23/02/2026 12:18

Where did I say he should lock himself away full stop? That’s quite the leap you’ve taken.

Again see the film

you would understand then how how he can’t live his life without ever having a tik an without going out

Vespanest · 23/02/2026 12:21

The racial slur is of course horrific and for the person and the community feels visceral, for those who are of the opinion that those with this type of Tourette's should remove themselves it is John that has done so much to increase awareness and this includes those people of colour with Tourette's. To attempt to remove or silence those from society due to involuntary racial slurs also removes those who have the discrimination of colour and disability

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 12:21

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 12:17

This is an eloquent and very well thought out explanation that only the wilfully obtuse or painfully ignorant won't understand and/or will argue with.

But it's still going to hurt.

And if my husband repeatedly accidentally elbows me in the face, and literally cannot stop himself, then no one would blame me for leaving him.

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 12:22

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 12:13

So even on her wedding day she must put someone else's feelings first lest she be cast as a bad person?

Lest she be a cunt to someone who absolutely cannot and has not chosen their disability.

Yes, even on her wedding day it would be a cuntish way to treat someone with a neurological condition.

YouAreTheCauseOfMyHeadache · 23/02/2026 12:22

Bewareofstepfords · 23/02/2026 11:50

I'm fascinated as to why it's often obscenities and racial slurs that Tourettes sufferers can't stop themselves shouting.
There must be so many non-offensive words stored in their memory banks that could trip out instead.
Weird that those black presenters were assailed by the n word instead of one of a thousand other, benign, nouns.

Its an involuntary compulsion to say things that are taboo or really unacceptable, the more nervous you are the worse it can get.
If it fascinates you go and research coprolalia (literally "shit talk")

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 12:24

MeinKraft · 23/02/2026 12:07

Why are you talking about ‘sending him’ and him being ‘determined to go’ as though he’s a 6 year old going to a birthday party he wasn’t invited to? He’s a grown man who made a film that was nominated for awards, there’s surely no question of him being invited and accepting that invitation.

Then everyone else should have been warned that abuse was likely so that they could have skipped the ceremony if they weren't up for it. Rather than what happened, which is that he abused several people until he realised it was an impossible situation and left (not before yelling the N word at people backstage though).

Are you saying he wouldn't be having a better day today if he'd watched it on TV? Do you really not think him attending was a terrible mistake?

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 12:24

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 12:22

Lest she be a cunt to someone who absolutely cannot and has not chosen their disability.

Yes, even on her wedding day it would be a cuntish way to treat someone with a neurological condition.

People can exclude children lest they be restless during the ceremony, but not Uncle Dave who might shout the n-word at their husband-to-be? Hm...

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 12:26

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 12:24

People can exclude children lest they be restless during the ceremony, but not Uncle Dave who might shout the n-word at their husband-to-be? Hm...

People can exclude whoever they want from their wedding for whatever reason they want.

Excluding someone with a disability purely for that reason, would imo make that person a cunt.

But it's still their choice.

HelenaWaiting · 23/02/2026 12:27

Crawse · 23/02/2026 10:40

Why are we all suddenly acting like the N word is no big deal? And that the black actors shouldn’t be affected at all

Nobody is acting like the n word is no big deal. The problem here is your inability to accept that two things can be true at the same time.

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 12:28

Here's a short clip of John and some fellow-sufferers from a documentary - it will hopefully be useful for people to understand what the condition looks like if you're a severe sufferer:

https://x.com/DerRohlSouness/status/2025692707671130185

Der Röhl Souness (@DerRohlSouness) on X

Johnny Davidson at the BAFTAS

https://x.com/DerRohlSouness/status/2025692707671130185

JonesTown · 23/02/2026 12:28

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 11:39

Someone upthread asked where the racist comments were. Maybe not completely racist but yeah, disturbing to me.
They are:
Saying the N word is fine because some black people use it.
Saying MBJ and DL use it towards each other ( how do you know that?)

Saying older people should get used to the N word because they are not 6- year-olds.
Calling PoC who object to this " professionally offended"
Saying the two actors are handsome and wealthy so it's fine.

Of course, plenty of ableism too.
Maybe we can agree the BBC shouldn't have aired it?

This is where I don’t like the identity politics fashion of only seeing people as part of groups rather than individuals.

I can absolutely see that Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo would have been upset and offended by what happened. They will also likely have suffered genuine racial abuse during their lives.

However, they are both highly successful and wealthy Hollywood actors with influence and resources. John Davidson is a caretaker whose life has been ruined by a condition he can’t help.

Dweetfidilove · 23/02/2026 12:30

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 12:14

Hannah Beachler, the production designer of "Sinners" and a black woman, says Davidson used racial slurs three times. once to her. And she is offended by the "throw away apology". Can't say I blame her. HannahBeachler on X: "I keep trying to write about what happened at the BAFTAs, and I can't find the words. The situation is almost impossible, but it happened 3 times that night, and one of the three times was directed at myself on the way to dinner after the show." / X

Edited

This was my daughter's sticking point this morning. The 'apology'.

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 12:30

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 12:26

People can exclude whoever they want from their wedding for whatever reason they want.

Excluding someone with a disability purely for that reason, would imo make that person a cunt.

But it's still their choice.

If you had a colleague with Tourette's who shouts racist abuse coming to your wedding would you warn your non-white friends beforehand so they could choose whether to be on the receiving end of it? Or just judge them from your high horse when they left? If the colleague shouted at children and frightened them would you tell their parents they are cunts for leaving?

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 12:31

JonesTown · 23/02/2026 12:28

This is where I don’t like the identity politics fashion of only seeing people as part of groups rather than individuals.

I can absolutely see that Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo would have been upset and offended by what happened. They will also likely have suffered genuine racial abuse during their lives.

However, they are both highly successful and wealthy Hollywood actors with influence and resources. John Davidson is a caretaker whose life has been ruined by a condition he can’t help.

I disagree that anything I have said is identity politics. But if you read my comment, all I said was that JD's slurs should have been edited out by the BBC.

Who does that hurt exactly? Are rich and handsome actors required to put up with racist slurs that have now become memes and spread round the net?

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