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John Davidson shouting the N word during the BAFTAS

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Crawse · 23/02/2026 10:02

John Davidson has Tourettes and is a campaigner for the condition. Whist Michale B Jordan and Delroy Lindo were presenting he shouted out the racial slur. It’s extremely uncomfortable to watch. I feel terrible for the two presenters. I’m really conflicted on this one.

What are your thoughts?

No one should be subjected to abuse. That is my bottom line. Maybe the fact I was called P*** (I’m half Indian) growing up has influenced my views. I obviously recognise Tourette’s is involuntary.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

British acting awards interrupted by racist slur from man with Tourette Syndrome | CNN

At Sunday night’s BAFTA ceremony in London, a man yelled a racist slur as two of the world’s most celebrated Black actors, Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo, presented an award on stage.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

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SpryLilacSnake · 23/02/2026 11:33

I'd imagine most people know the N word and know it would be awful to shout at someone black. You included I imagine?

Are you suggesting that knowing the N word and knowing it's wrong to use is racist in and of itself?

Crawse · 23/02/2026 11:34

WhatAreYouDoingSundayBaby · 23/02/2026 11:28

I don't think anyone disagrees with this though? Of course it is hurtful.

Look back at this thread a considerable number of posters have argued the word should not cause offence as the black actors should understand there was no abusive intent behind the word.

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lifeisgoodrightnow · 23/02/2026 11:34

BillieWiper · 23/02/2026 10:18

I swear is way too long and kind of boring. They paint the other characters other him very weakly and his mates mum is just made out to be a complete saint but with no actual personality or inner workings. Some parts of it are good though.

I honestly don't see why you can't moderate the tics if they're racial slurs etc so you don't say that exact word. It seemed the stuff the guy in I Swear was saying was just meant to be funny. But it's almost like he should've been trying to train himself not to swear. Not not to tic, but just not being so offensive.

You obviously have understood NOTHING about Tourette’s. What you’re suggesting is tantamount to asking a person with epilepsy to please mind out and sit down carefully before they have a seizure.

WhatAreYouDoingSundayBaby · 23/02/2026 11:35

nomas · 23/02/2026 11:30

Well he now knows black people are a trigger point so he should do them the courtesy of briefly leaving the space so as not to inadvertently call them ‘n””””””’.

But everything can be a trigger point for people with tourettes. Unless he avoids people in general, he will never avoid causing offence at points.

finbow · 23/02/2026 11:35

So I guess we need two checks here

a) are words as hurtful as physical violence

b) if the disability meant the person can be involuntarily violent to others, would they be allowed to attend (and then think about measures to prevent hurting others if attending, in the respective scenarios)

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 11:35

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 11:32

So he needs to stay away from all black people just in case?

What about when he says something offensive to a woman, keep him away from them too.

Fuck it, bring back the asylums just in case grown adults can't get their head around a neurological condition that causes involuntary vocal tics.

To be honest, I actually wouldn't want to be around someone who verbally abuses me, so while I wouldn't expect him to curtail his life, I would avoid him. Equally, I wouldn't want to be around someone who had a compulsion to hit people, or (as someone said above) a compulsion to masturbate or take off their clothes in public.

Just because someone has an illness that means they can't help their actions, that doesn't mean that you have to suffer through their upsetting behaviour.

Grindfall · 23/02/2026 11:36

nomas · 23/02/2026 11:25

He wouldn’t be kept away, he’s being removed during a trigger point for him, so that he doesn’t overshadow the black people in the spotlight. He can rejoin once they’ve left the stage.

And as an aside, you can’t use black people as a therapy tool, if they want to keep away from someone calling them ‘n”””””’ they absolutely have the right to keep away.

Surely the point is that you can’t exclude him from any particular bit, because whatever bit he attends is likely to trigger a tic. The tic might be different but it will be the most unpleasant thing it is possible to say at that moment. That’s how the condition works.

Topbobble · 23/02/2026 11:36

Grindfall · 23/02/2026 11:30

The ‘free Palestine’ thing is not to do with offensiveness, but because of the rules around political impartiality at the bbc. You’re putting them both in the same category because they are both editorial decisions, but different principles and processes apply so they’re not in the same category at all. One relates to politics and the other is a balance between disability and offensiveness.

But it demonstrates they had the ability to edit it out for the sake of all involved. His other tics were removed from the live broadcast so why not this one? Cynically i suppose it has boosted the exposure of the BAFTAs, how many people commenting would even know the awards happened otherwise?

NemesisInferior · 23/02/2026 11:36

Some people really would be happy to see madhouses reintroduced, wouldn't they.

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 11:36

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 11:32

Isn't alcoholism an illness?

The fact that he removed himself shows that he knew the situation was impossible. It was entirely foreseeable that at such a stressful event this would happen. Do you think he had a good time before he left and isn't now regretting going?

I have no idea what kind if time he was having or if he regrets going.

This man has lived with this condition his whole life.

He doesn't have a moment without it, unlike an alcoholic who can and will be sober, or wouldn't be able to drink if there was no alcohol at the event or can choose to go to rehab to get help.

There is no break or choice around tourettes.

LeopardSnow · 23/02/2026 11:37

nomas · 23/02/2026 11:30

Well he now knows black people are a trigger point so he should do them the courtesy of briefly leaving the space so as not to inadvertently call them ‘n””””””’.

So you think he needs to stay away from any situation where he might encounter a black or brown person. How do you envision that working exactly? Should he never leave his house, wear a blindfold, require black and brown people to announce where they are at all times so he can avoid them?

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 11:37

NemesisInferior · 23/02/2026 11:28

Hiding disabled people away because we don't like their disabilities is far more harmful, I would suggest.

The utter ignorance on this thread is just mindblowing.

So everyone else must just sit there and be verbally abused? How is that fair?

Don't you think encouraging him to go has caused far more stress in his life? He left early because it was impossible for him. The whole thing was a huge mistake that will haunt him for the rest of his life.

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 11:39

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 11:35

To be honest, I actually wouldn't want to be around someone who verbally abuses me, so while I wouldn't expect him to curtail his life, I would avoid him. Equally, I wouldn't want to be around someone who had a compulsion to hit people, or (as someone said above) a compulsion to masturbate or take off their clothes in public.

Just because someone has an illness that means they can't help their actions, that doesn't mean that you have to suffer through their upsetting behaviour.

Thankfully you don't have to suffer around him.

Should you happen to interact with someone in public who has tourettes I hope you would have a modicum of understanding that the 10 second impact on your life if being called a slur is not compatible to living with this condition in any way.

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 11:39

Crawse · 23/02/2026 11:34

Look back at this thread a considerable number of posters have argued the word should not cause offence as the black actors should understand there was no abusive intent behind the word.

Someone upthread asked where the racist comments were. Maybe not completely racist but yeah, disturbing to me.
They are:
Saying the N word is fine because some black people use it.
Saying MBJ and DL use it towards each other ( how do you know that?)

Saying older people should get used to the N word because they are not 6- year-olds.
Calling PoC who object to this " professionally offended"
Saying the two actors are handsome and wealthy so it's fine.

Of course, plenty of ableism too.
Maybe we can agree the BBC shouldn't have aired it?

NemesisInferior · 23/02/2026 11:40

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 11:37

So everyone else must just sit there and be verbally abused? How is that fair?

Don't you think encouraging him to go has caused far more stress in his life? He left early because it was impossible for him. The whole thing was a huge mistake that will haunt him for the rest of his life.

I think people should educate themselves and understand that nobody chooses to have a disability, and that as a society we should be as welcoming and understanding of all people, regardless of whatever label you want to give them.

He wasn't abusing anyone. A link explaining his condition has been posted multiple times. Maybe read it.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 23/02/2026 11:41

Crawse · 23/02/2026 10:58

I think I’m uncomfortable because majority of sympathy is being directed towards John. I don’t think enough attention is being paid to the impact this will have had on the actors presenting. Instead people are saying “ well it’s involuntary so MBJ and DL shouldn’t be the least bit affected/hurt”.

I guess it’s their opportunity to demonstrate they are allies to the disabled community. I mean, it sucks, I get that. But it’s as clear an example as any I’ve seen about competing rights.

In a different situation, he is likely to shout a different slur. If he’s stopped from going anywhere where he could inadvertently offend then he has to stay home.

He is as like to shout the R word, the C word, there are many awful slurs and an awful lot of people to be deeply hurt by any of those slurs.

JHound · 23/02/2026 11:41

Crawse · 23/02/2026 11:25

Yes if John had shouted TWAW you would not have all these posters tying themselves in knots

two things can be true at once. John may have said the n word involuntarily and the word could have caused offence/hurt those on the receiving end.

Edited

Which is why my ire is aimed mainly at the BBC's editorial decision as we can clearly see they were able to wield it to cut other things they feared may have caused offence to some viewers.

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 11:42

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 11:37

So everyone else must just sit there and be verbally abused? How is that fair?

Don't you think encouraging him to go has caused far more stress in his life? He left early because it was impossible for him. The whole thing was a huge mistake that will haunt him for the rest of his life.

Whereas his tourettes that he lives with every minute of every day is just a walk in the park and doesn't haunt him at all.

It's fine though, as long as the public aren't inconvenienced by it it's all good.

Lock the disabled up again.

JHound · 23/02/2026 11:44

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 11:39

Someone upthread asked where the racist comments were. Maybe not completely racist but yeah, disturbing to me.
They are:
Saying the N word is fine because some black people use it.
Saying MBJ and DL use it towards each other ( how do you know that?)

Saying older people should get used to the N word because they are not 6- year-olds.
Calling PoC who object to this " professionally offended"
Saying the two actors are handsome and wealthy so it's fine.

Of course, plenty of ableism too.
Maybe we can agree the BBC shouldn't have aired it?

I never get the 'they're wealthy' comment about why people need to put up with abuse.

It's like Gervais 'joke' at a previous awards ceremony mocking Jennifer Lawrence for protesting unequal pay for actors because she was 'rich'. Like, so?

And what is the wealth level where suddenly you become an robot with zero feelings.

BeBusyBird · 23/02/2026 11:44

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 11:39

Thankfully you don't have to suffer around him.

Should you happen to interact with someone in public who has tourettes I hope you would have a modicum of understanding that the 10 second impact on your life if being called a slur is not compatible to living with this condition in any way.

Being called a racial slur is not a “10 second impact” on one’s life

Smartiepants79 · 23/02/2026 11:45

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 11:35

To be honest, I actually wouldn't want to be around someone who verbally abuses me, so while I wouldn't expect him to curtail his life, I would avoid him. Equally, I wouldn't want to be around someone who had a compulsion to hit people, or (as someone said above) a compulsion to masturbate or take off their clothes in public.

Just because someone has an illness that means they can't help their actions, that doesn't mean that you have to suffer through their upsetting behaviour.

But surely you can understand that he doesn’t mean it! If I was acquainted with someone with Tourette’s then I’d know to just ignore all outbursts, I would not consider it to be personal abuse. I have to admit that I think it would probably just make me laugh and I hope that would not upset the person.
(please note that I’m talking about myself here I do not claim to speak for anyone else)
Maybe be we need to reframe it like that.

Dweetfidilove · 23/02/2026 11:46

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 23/02/2026 11:29

No, that’s not true. It’s not involuntarily expressing your thoughts, it’s involuntarily saying the worst possibly thing you can imagine in any given scenario. It’s the thing you dread accidentally saying, and often does not reflect your thoughts at all.

That's what the expert on the other thread says it is.
In any case, he caused harm, albeit involuntarily. And in the same week where I've seen another young black man crying due racial abuse, and the world and its donkey making excuses for the racist; I'm not about to exhaust myself going back and forth on this.

itsthetea · 23/02/2026 11:47

BeBusyBird · 23/02/2026 11:44

Being called a racial slur is not a “10 second impact” on one’s life

But the thing is - that’s your interpretation of his tik / you know it’s not meant as a slur but you chose to be offended .

LadyTable · 23/02/2026 11:47

NemesisInferior · 23/02/2026 11:36

Some people really would be happy to see madhouses reintroduced, wouldn't they.

Yes, well certainly the two hateful posters from earlier in the thread would.

I hope they've been banned now.

CharlotteRumpling · 23/02/2026 11:48

itsthetea · 23/02/2026 11:47

But the thing is - that’s your interpretation of his tik / you know it’s not meant as a slur but you chose to be offended .

It will be used by the rest of the world as a slur and professionally define you.

No one who has not been racially abused will understand.

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