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John Davidson shouting the N word during the BAFTAS

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Crawse · 23/02/2026 10:02

John Davidson has Tourettes and is a campaigner for the condition. Whist Michale B Jordan and Delroy Lindo were presenting he shouted out the racial slur. It’s extremely uncomfortable to watch. I feel terrible for the two presenters. I’m really conflicted on this one.

What are your thoughts?

No one should be subjected to abuse. That is my bottom line. Maybe the fact I was called P*** (I’m half Indian) growing up has influenced my views. I obviously recognise Tourette’s is involuntary.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

British acting awards interrupted by racist slur from man with Tourette Syndrome | CNN

At Sunday night’s BAFTA ceremony in London, a man yelled a racist slur as two of the world’s most celebrated Black actors, Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo, presented an award on stage.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/22/entertainment/baftas-2026-tourettes-racist-slur

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WhenWillItBeSpringAgain · 23/02/2026 11:23

I really wish there was a mute button on MN. Lots of different views, mostly interesting and thoughtful even if I disagree and then 2 pp just endlessly posting crap presumably just to get a rise. SO tedious

louderthan · 23/02/2026 11:23

The ableism on this thread is staggering. Make disabled people stay at home or ‘in a back room’ in case they upset the normal people.
Absolutely disgusting views.

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 11:24

My dd has epilepsy as well as tourettes, it's very common to have both.

She gets far more understanding for her epileptic seizures than she does for her tourettes tics, even though both are completely involuntary.

UpsettyPants · 23/02/2026 11:25

God, of course having Tourette’s is a living nightmare. No one denies that.

But I too don’t get it.

I get it’s involuntary, and it’s a tick. But, I don’t see how this example is a coincidence or totally random.

I’ve seen other documentaries on Tourette’s. One followed a young man and his interactions. He couldn’t control his ticks, and his shouting out, but all the things he did shout had context. For example, I remember him being in a garden centre cafe and he shouted paedo at a guy. Then a large young lady walked past and he shouted “big tits”, “fat cow” at her. So how is that a coincidence. Why not just shout out “fuckwittery bollocks” or something random.

It does on the face of it seem that someone might be subconsciously thinking it, due to whatever ingrained reason, but if you have Tourette’s, you can’t filter it.

It’s a catch 22 situation. It’s a disability that needs supporting, but equally people should be able to go about their business without being called a “fat cow” or the N word.

WhatAreYouDoingSundayBaby · 23/02/2026 11:25

Dweetfidilove · 23/02/2026 10:58

FWIW @Crawse , I don't think you're being unreasonable.

I accept Tourettes causes your mouth to involuntarily release your thoughts, but the fact that he has Tourettes doesn't negate the fact that his thought when he sees a black man is 'N'; or that the behaviour is harmful to whoever is on the receiving end of it.

We can argue voluntary vs involuntary all day long, but involuntarily headbutting me doesn't mean I don't hurt 🤷🏾‍♀️.

But it's not 'his thought' as in that's what he thinks and wants to say...it's his though in the sense that we all know of that word and know how hurtful and inappropriate it is, as does he.

But his brain and body force him to say it via an uncontrollable compulsion because he knows it's the worst thing he could possibly say and he is likely trying to will himself not to say it, which makes it worse.

Crawse · 23/02/2026 11:25

JHound · 23/02/2026 11:10

It's MN.

You won't get many people who have a big deal with black people being referred to as N*ggers here, intentional or not.

Had Davison shouted out 'Trans Women are Women' then people here would have been outraged at the BBC's decision to air it.

Yes if John had shouted TWAW you would not have all these posters tying themselves in knots

two things can be true at once. John may have said the n word involuntarily and the word could have caused offence/hurt those on the receiving end.

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nomas · 23/02/2026 11:25

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 11:21

It's not a sensible compromise to keep him away from black people.

If he needs to be kept away from black people in case he uses a slur then he needs to be kept away from everyone in case he uses a slur - women, disabled people, gay people, fat people.....

Shutting someone away isn't the answer. Educating people is.

He wouldn’t be kept away, he’s being removed during a trigger point for him, so that he doesn’t overshadow the black people in the spotlight. He can rejoin once they’ve left the stage.

And as an aside, you can’t use black people as a therapy tool, if they want to keep away from someone calling them ‘n”””””’ they absolutely have the right to keep away.

GreatAuntytobe · 23/02/2026 11:27

I completely sympathise with him having Tourettes, it must be absolute hell. This was a night to celebrate his film, it was also a night to celebrate other people's films. They had as much right to celebrate their success as he did and now it will be tarnished forever to them and their families because of the racist abuse they were subjected to. It doesn't matter that the guy couldn't help it, the words still had the same effect, they were still as offensive, he didn't just shout "biscuits" at them. The night was ruined for those guys, you could see the shock on their faces. Every time they play back the video, maybe to show their children and future grandchildren, they are going to have to explain what the bleeping out noise is for. He must know that when he sees black people he can't help but shout racial abuse at them and he must also have been aware that one of the films up for nomination had a black cast and he'd be bound to racially abuse them, so why the heck did he go to the ceremony? Couldn't he have watched it from a side room or watched it at home? If he'd had a tic where he threw random punches at people do you really think they would have sat him in the audience? Those black guys did not deserve to be subjected to that abuse, whoever it came from.

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 11:27

NemesisInferior · 23/02/2026 11:13

"Nah, we can't be arsed to put a wheelchair ramp in. Stay at home".

Attitudes like yours means that this night will haunt John for the rest of his life. Well done.

Do you think if a bride said that they don't want to be racially abused on their wedding day so they didn't invite a colleague with Tourette's she is a horrible person? If someone's disability gave them a compulsion to masturbate can anyone refuse to be in their company or must we all be understanding?

StickySeason · 23/02/2026 11:27

There are some shockingly terrible responses on here. This man has a disability which causes involuntary actions. Google is at your fingertips…there’s really no defence to being so utterly ignorant on the subject of Tourette’s.

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 11:27

nomas · 23/02/2026 11:19

That’s actually a sensible compromise.

He should attend as is his right but he should step out when black people are on stage or presenting, so that he doesn’t inadvertently use racist language when they’re on stage.

That way we protect two minorities, Tourette’s Syndrome sufferers and black / BAME people.

Edited

Do we honestly think having a particular skin colour is a disability? If that's the progressive approach, it seems to have horseshoed into raging racism if so.

OtterlyAstounding · 23/02/2026 11:28

If someone had a condition that involved an involuntary tic that made them hit people, they might not be responsible for what they've done, but someone has still been hit. And they should be prevented from hitting people.

In this case, while the person may not be racist, the fact that it was used while two black people happen to be on stage could certainly make them wonder if that person is racist underneath the surface, and feel racially attacked.

Personally, if I had Tourette's I'd want to muzzle myself in public, because I couldn't stand the idea of yelling insults at people 🫢 What a nightmare for all involved.

boxofbuttons · 23/02/2026 11:28

I think the blame lies on the TV directors for airing it. They made it much worse for everyone involved.

Not that it didn't cause harm to the people in the event who heard it, but I think (or thought, until today's social media reactions) that the majority of people understand that TS sufferers with coprolalia cannot control what they say AND that it being the worst possible thing to say is a feature, not a bug. Sometimes people are ill or disabled in ways that cause harm to other people: that's not just a feature of TS, there are a lot of conditions that cause harm to other people. I have schizophrenic relatives, for example, and by and large they do not want to hurt people, but sometimes they do. It's awful and unfortunate for people who are hurt, and it not being voluntary doesn't mean that hurt isn't real, but part of living in a society is understanding that disabilities can do that and having a bit of compassion about it.

People assuming it means he's secretly racist or uniquely saving his tics for black people are missing the point of the condition: the taboo and wrongness of things is very often WHY they are tics in the first place. If people want to be unhappy about the fact that racism exists in the first place and therefore the worst place his neurological condition could take him was there, then I completely agree: it's a shame that there exists a term so specifically hurtful and dehumanising. But the vast majority of adults know this slur exists and that it's horrific - the difference is that I don't have a condition that makes me say the worst possible thing at any given moment. His knowing it does not make him racist and his saying it does not signify anything other than that he's aware of the cultural and social impact of doing so, because that's very often what coprolalia does. Just like him shouting about drugs in the airport or telling the Queen to get fucked when both of those things are as socially inappropriate as they can be.

WhatAreYouDoingSundayBaby · 23/02/2026 11:28

Crawse · 23/02/2026 11:17

If someone accidentally hits you with an object it can still hurt. Even if you understand the person throwing the object meant no harm.

I don't think anyone disagrees with this though? Of course it is hurtful.

Alpacajigsaw · 23/02/2026 11:28

UpsettyPants · 23/02/2026 11:25

God, of course having Tourette’s is a living nightmare. No one denies that.

But I too don’t get it.

I get it’s involuntary, and it’s a tick. But, I don’t see how this example is a coincidence or totally random.

I’ve seen other documentaries on Tourette’s. One followed a young man and his interactions. He couldn’t control his ticks, and his shouting out, but all the things he did shout had context. For example, I remember him being in a garden centre cafe and he shouted paedo at a guy. Then a large young lady walked past and he shouted “big tits”, “fat cow” at her. So how is that a coincidence. Why not just shout out “fuckwittery bollocks” or something random.

It does on the face of it seem that someone might be subconsciously thinking it, due to whatever ingrained reason, but if you have Tourette’s, you can’t filter it.

It’s a catch 22 situation. It’s a disability that needs supporting, but equally people should be able to go about their business without being called a “fat cow” or the N word.

Edited

People have explained why it is and how for people that have this manifestation the tic is likely to be the most inappropriate thing to say in the circumstances

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 11:28

nomas · 23/02/2026 11:25

He wouldn’t be kept away, he’s being removed during a trigger point for him, so that he doesn’t overshadow the black people in the spotlight. He can rejoin once they’ve left the stage.

And as an aside, you can’t use black people as a therapy tool, if they want to keep away from someone calling them ‘n”””””’ they absolutely have the right to keep away.

He doesn't know what a trigger point will be though. He could see 1000 black people and say nothing, and then a tic will happen. There is no rhyme nor reason, its a neurological condition. Anything could be a trigger at any time even if its never happened before.

NemesisInferior · 23/02/2026 11:28

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 11:27

Attitudes like yours means that this night will haunt John for the rest of his life. Well done.

Do you think if a bride said that they don't want to be racially abused on their wedding day so they didn't invite a colleague with Tourette's she is a horrible person? If someone's disability gave them a compulsion to masturbate can anyone refuse to be in their company or must we all be understanding?

Hiding disabled people away because we don't like their disabilities is far more harmful, I would suggest.

The utter ignorance on this thread is just mindblowing.

nomas · 23/02/2026 11:29

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 11:27

Do we honestly think having a particular skin colour is a disability? If that's the progressive approach, it seems to have horseshoed into raging racism if so.

I didn’t say being black is a disability, I said black people are a minority, like TS sufferers and that both should be protected.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 23/02/2026 11:29

Dweetfidilove · 23/02/2026 10:58

FWIW @Crawse , I don't think you're being unreasonable.

I accept Tourettes causes your mouth to involuntarily release your thoughts, but the fact that he has Tourettes doesn't negate the fact that his thought when he sees a black man is 'N'; or that the behaviour is harmful to whoever is on the receiving end of it.

We can argue voluntary vs involuntary all day long, but involuntarily headbutting me doesn't mean I don't hurt 🤷🏾‍♀️.

No, that’s not true. It’s not involuntarily expressing your thoughts, it’s involuntarily saying the worst possibly thing you can imagine in any given scenario. It’s the thing you dread accidentally saying, and often does not reflect your thoughts at all.

SpaceRaccoon · 23/02/2026 11:29

UpsettyPants · 23/02/2026 11:25

God, of course having Tourette’s is a living nightmare. No one denies that.

But I too don’t get it.

I get it’s involuntary, and it’s a tick. But, I don’t see how this example is a coincidence or totally random.

I’ve seen other documentaries on Tourette’s. One followed a young man and his interactions. He couldn’t control his ticks, and his shouting out, but all the things he did shout had context. For example, I remember him being in a garden centre cafe and he shouted paedo at a guy. Then a large young lady walked past and he shouted “big tits”, “fat cow” at her. So how is that a coincidence. Why not just shout out “fuckwittery bollocks” or something random.

It does on the face of it seem that someone might be subconsciously thinking it, due to whatever ingrained reason, but if you have Tourette’s, you can’t filter it.

It’s a catch 22 situation. It’s a disability that needs supporting, but equally people should be able to go about their business without being called a “fat cow” or the N word.

Edited

Because it's not a coincidence, you're right:

"Coprolalia encompasses the uncontrollable utterance of words and phrases that are culturally taboo or generally unsuitable for acceptable social use"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprolalia

That's what makes it such a difficult disability to live with.

Coprolalia - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprolalia

nomas · 23/02/2026 11:30

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 11:28

He doesn't know what a trigger point will be though. He could see 1000 black people and say nothing, and then a tic will happen. There is no rhyme nor reason, its a neurological condition. Anything could be a trigger at any time even if its never happened before.

Well he now knows black people are a trigger point so he should do them the courtesy of briefly leaving the space so as not to inadvertently call them ‘n””””””’.

Grindfall · 23/02/2026 11:30

JHound · 23/02/2026 11:01

No I really cannot. You can educate people on a topic without having to expose them to racial slurs. You sound like the people who argue that rape scenes in films are necessary to show people that abuse of women exists.

And if you cannot see why it's weird to choose to edit out one term out of a desire not to cause offence but leaving in another despite that causing offence (and one could argue a far more offensive term) then I won't be able to explain it to you. I have a feeling you would still be defending the Beeb's editorial decision even if he said it completely intentionally.

Edited

The ‘free Palestine’ thing is not to do with offensiveness, but because of the rules around political impartiality at the bbc. You’re putting them both in the same category because they are both editorial decisions, but different principles and processes apply so they’re not in the same category at all. One relates to politics and the other is a balance between disability and offensiveness.

ClickClickety · 23/02/2026 11:32

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 11:15

Did you just compare being drunk to having tourettes? 🤦🏽‍♀️

I'm sure he's very sorry his neurological condition prevented him from being professional before he removed himself.

Isn't alcoholism an illness?

The fact that he removed himself shows that he knew the situation was impossible. It was entirely foreseeable that at such a stressful event this would happen. Do you think he had a good time before he left and isn't now regretting going?

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 11:32

nomas · 23/02/2026 11:30

Well he now knows black people are a trigger point so he should do them the courtesy of briefly leaving the space so as not to inadvertently call them ‘n””””””’.

So he needs to stay away from all black people just in case?

What about when he says something offensive to a woman, keep him away from them too.

Fuck it, bring back the asylums just in case grown adults can't get their head around a neurological condition that causes involuntary vocal tics.

WhatAreYouDoingSundayBaby · 23/02/2026 11:33

He should attend as is his right but he should step out when black people are on stage or presenting, so that he doesn’t inadvertently use racist language when they’re on stage.

But his tourettes will not be solely focused on black people? He could shot something highly offensive to anybody at any point. I assume other black people had been up on stage through the night and this hadn't happened each time.

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