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SEND - children’s needs to be reassessed from year 6 2029?

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missbish · 23/02/2026 06:07

Are they taking the piss? After the struggles parents have trying to secure support for their child, they’re then going to threaten to take it away once they’re due to go to secondary? Ds goes to secondary this year so I don’t think it will effect him but I am so angry for those it does effect.

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Vicks123 · 25/02/2026 08:25

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 07:55

I really don’t think the education system, or any education system, is set up to deal with children with needs like this tbh.

No other country sees this, only the UK.

I suppose it boils down to expectation. I expect a reasonable effort to educate children. It sounds like whatever they did wasn’t going to be quite right. You’re her parent so of course you want something perfect and anything less will be ‘failure’.

But it comes back to what I said about an objective bystander seeing things without emotion.

What a bizarre thing to lie about, 'no other country sees this'. Here are links to schools in 10 different countries, all for children with complex needs. It literally took me 5 minutes to find them.
USA: https://www.kennedykrieger.org/schools-and-education/leap-program
Canada: https://www.parklandclass.org/programs-and-services/parkland-school
Australia: https://www.malkara.act.edu.au/
Ireland: http://www.smhbaldoyleschool.ie/
South Africa: https://www.nokuthulacentre.co.za/
New Zealand: https://www.skp.school.nz/
India: https://muskanfoundation.org.in/
Germany: https://www.icpmuenchen.de/en/instruction-and-education/educational-school-for-children-with-special-needs/
Singapore: https://www.rainbowcentre.org.sg/
Netherlands: https://www.wittevogel.nl/

Parkland School | Special Needs Children Education | Parkland CLASS

Parkland School provides education and stimulates personal growth and acceptance for special needs children in Central Alberta.

https://www.parklandclass.org/programs-and-services/parkland-school

Lougle · 25/02/2026 08:28

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 07:55

I really don’t think the education system, or any education system, is set up to deal with children with needs like this tbh.

No other country sees this, only the UK.

I suppose it boils down to expectation. I expect a reasonable effort to educate children. It sounds like whatever they did wasn’t going to be quite right. You’re her parent so of course you want something perfect and anything less will be ‘failure’.

But it comes back to what I said about an objective bystander seeing things without emotion.

"I suppose it boils down to expectation. I expect a reasonable effort to educate children. It sounds like whatever they did wasn’t going to be quite right. You’re her parent so of course you want something perfect and anything less will be ‘failure’."

She had the right provision in primary school. Her current presentation is a direct result of inadequate provision.

Fearfulsaints · 25/02/2026 08:35

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 07:55

I really don’t think the education system, or any education system, is set up to deal with children with needs like this tbh.

No other country sees this, only the UK.

I suppose it boils down to expectation. I expect a reasonable effort to educate children. It sounds like whatever they did wasn’t going to be quite right. You’re her parent so of course you want something perfect and anything less will be ‘failure’.

But it comes back to what I said about an objective bystander seeing things without emotion.

The system was set up to deal with it. There was school A, right at the start of the story that was a natural progression from the place she thrived.

There was a bit of a baby boom (thats now ended) but the whole school cohort expanded- there were bulge classes up and down the country but SEN schools were less able to respond to that in some cases (often ideological rather than cost related) and sen children just got redistributed to less suitable places - sometimes more expensive than the right place. There was also a reported rise in actual sen too which would have made the issue worse but that seems to be more recently than a college age child.

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 08:35

Lougle · 25/02/2026 08:28

"I suppose it boils down to expectation. I expect a reasonable effort to educate children. It sounds like whatever they did wasn’t going to be quite right. You’re her parent so of course you want something perfect and anything less will be ‘failure’."

She had the right provision in primary school. Her current presentation is a direct result of inadequate provision.

What would be ‘adequate provision’ in your view? Pardon me but at this stage the state has spent millions educating your DC (or trying to), you have probably received 20 or 30 times the funding and manpower hours that a typical family get, your child was offered multiple settings and has rejected them all, yet you’re ’being failed’?

Are you able to step away and see how this looks to others?

Avantiagain · 25/02/2026 08:37

"No other country sees this, only the UK."

Yet another ridiculous statement of yours.

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 08:39

Avantiagain · 25/02/2026 08:37

"No other country sees this, only the UK."

Yet another ridiculous statement of yours.

No comparable country has the SEN rates we do.

Happy to be proved wrong.

Lougle · 25/02/2026 08:42

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 08:35

What would be ‘adequate provision’ in your view? Pardon me but at this stage the state has spent millions educating your DC (or trying to), you have probably received 20 or 30 times the funding and manpower hours that a typical family get, your child was offered multiple settings and has rejected them all, yet you’re ’being failed’?

Are you able to step away and see how this looks to others?

Not millions. Adequate would have been a school with SaLT and OT provision running throughout the curriculum, as stated on her EHCP, and access to sensory regulation strategies, as stated on her EHCP, with teaching pitched to her ability, as stated on her EHCP, and total communication strategies deployed, as stated on her EHCP. Mostly delivered by TAs with Teacher oversight and professional planning. In other words, school A.

Now, she'll need extensive professional input directly from professionals, 1:1 support at all times, bespoke provision and highly individualised teaching.

suburburban · 25/02/2026 08:43

Lougle · 25/02/2026 08:25

"Approximately 14.1 to 14.5 million children (nearly 1 in 5) in the United States have special health care needs, defined as chronic physical, developmental, behavioral, or emotional conditions requiring extra care. These children, often referred to as having complex needs, represent about 20% of the pediatric population."

From Google

DN is autistic in USA but provision is paying for private education by his dps not any state funding

he is bright and doing well

Ohthatsabitshit · 25/02/2026 08:43

Well if we’re talking about ASD SEN then no other country produces the calibre and quantity of engineers and scientists that we do and have done for centuries, a skill set that is known to be aligned to the prevalence of autism and other neurodivergent differences.

N0m0rerain · 25/02/2026 08:46

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 08:35

What would be ‘adequate provision’ in your view? Pardon me but at this stage the state has spent millions educating your DC (or trying to), you have probably received 20 or 30 times the funding and manpower hours that a typical family get, your child was offered multiple settings and has rejected them all, yet you’re ’being failed’?

Are you able to step away and see how this looks to others?

You are literally making things up.

Avantiagain · 25/02/2026 08:47

"No comparable country has the SEN rates we do.
Happy to be proved wrong."

You are not interested in fact. You only want to peddle your own rhetoric.

Why not post the SEND rates of 10 countries to give some evidence to your assertion.

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 08:47

Ohthatsabitshit · 25/02/2026 08:43

Well if we’re talking about ASD SEN then no other country produces the calibre and quantity of engineers and scientists that we do and have done for centuries, a skill set that is known to be aligned to the prevalence of autism and other neurodivergent differences.

I highly doubt non verbal 8 year olds in nappies will go on to be top scientists, or children unable to speak to others due to anxiety.

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 08:49

Avantiagain · 25/02/2026 08:47

"No comparable country has the SEN rates we do.
Happy to be proved wrong."

You are not interested in fact. You only want to peddle your own rhetoric.

Why not post the SEND rates of 10 countries to give some evidence to your assertion.

This trend in rising rates of ASD, particularly in recent years, can be seen across a range of countries (Zeidan et al., 2022). Data among 8-year-olds in the US, for instance, show a similar increase in ASD prevalence from 0.67% in 2000 to 2.76% in 2020 (Maenner et al., 2023), and a range of countries show similarly narrowing gaps between men and women (Li et al., 2022). Exactly when this rise began is unclear, however. ASD prevalence is generally higher in high-income countries, but there is some evidence to suggest that the rates among children in the UK are relatively high by international and European standards (Sacco et al., 2022). This relative comparability with some other similar countries helps to suggest that the increase in pupils with SEN and EHCPs is in part driven by broader trends of increased prevalence or recognition of ASD rather than just the nature of the English SEN system.

drspouse · 25/02/2026 08:51

ExistingonCoffee · 24/02/2026 23:08

I am saddened to read that but not surprised. I worry you are hurtling rapidly towards carer burnout. Those involved need to take note. They need to take action now. Not at some unspecified time in the future, maybe. It will cost them more if you reach carer burnout. I have said it before, but I will say it again. There is only so much you, one person, can do. You can’t do it all. It isn’t physically or mentally possible. You can’t be everything to everyone all the time. I am always here to listen if you want/need.

One of my friends was sectioned after burnout plus an existing MH condition left her vulnerable. That's a lot more expensive than giving her DS the right provision in the first place.

Lougle · 25/02/2026 08:53

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 08:47

I highly doubt non verbal 8 year olds in nappies will go on to be top scientists, or children unable to speak to others due to anxiety.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-64717079

Jason Arday. Learned to talk at 11 and to read at 18.

Prof Jason Arday

Cambridge University's Jason Arday becomes youngest black professor

Sociologist Prof Jason Arday trained as a PE teacher before turning to academia.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-64717079

Avantiagain · 25/02/2026 08:54

I would like to see the evidence that other countries have more non verbal 8 year olds in nappies.

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 08:55

Avantiagain · 25/02/2026 08:54

I would like to see the evidence that other countries have more non verbal 8 year olds in nappies.

Didn’t say that

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 08:56

Lougle · 25/02/2026 08:53

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-64717079

Jason Arday. Learned to talk at 11 and to read at 18.

How typical is this would you say? Not impossible of course but there’s a reason it made the news.

Lougle · 25/02/2026 09:00

Fred Epstein. Renowned neurosurgeon who was so dyslexic that he had to record assignments on tape.

Temple Grand in, esteemed in animal science. Was deemed brain damaged at the age of 2 and they recommended institutional care.

Henry Cavendish, pioneer in physics and chemistry, described as peculiarly shy with severe social communication challenges.

Besides that, it isn't about what job these children may get. They are worthwhile in themselves.

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 09:01

Lougle · 25/02/2026 09:00

Fred Epstein. Renowned neurosurgeon who was so dyslexic that he had to record assignments on tape.

Temple Grand in, esteemed in animal science. Was deemed brain damaged at the age of 2 and they recommended institutional care.

Henry Cavendish, pioneer in physics and chemistry, described as peculiarly shy with severe social communication challenges.

Besides that, it isn't about what job these children may get. They are worthwhile in themselves.

All children are worthwhile.

Avantiagain · 25/02/2026 09:01

"In the UK, the estimated prevalence in adults is about 1.1%, with relative consistency across studies [Huang, 2020; NCCWCH, 2022; BMJ Best Practice, 2023; NCCMH, 2023]. Comparing this estimated prevalence of ASD in adults with that of children (1-2%) suggests that ASD is underdiagnosed among adults [Huang, 2020]."

My Google.

Lougle · 25/02/2026 09:01

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 09:01

All children are worthwhile.

Thank you. There is hope that you're starting to get it.

Avantiagain · 25/02/2026 09:04

"Didn’t say that"

You said the UK has higher SEN rates. These are children with SEN.

Ohthatsabitshit · 25/02/2026 09:09

Playingvideogames · 25/02/2026 08:47

I highly doubt non verbal 8 year olds in nappies will go on to be top scientists, or children unable to speak to others due to anxiety.

Presumably their parents and grandparents might very well have though?

EasternStandard · 25/02/2026 09:12

Sassiskt · 24/02/2026 21:25

Every single other politician has told the SNP idiots that this is devastating Scottish education but they just bury their heads in the sand. People that haven’t been personally affected think it’s just not happening. Someone will be killed by a child that everyone warned about. Then there will be an inquest and then questions might be posed. Until then we’re all just waiting, praying its not our kid.

One of my friends has become a teaching assistant in her child’s school purely in the hope that if the child in her child’s class that’s prone to violent outbursts lashes out, she has a chance of protecting her child. It’s truly madness.

This is terrible. We’re heading there too.

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