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SEND - children’s needs to be reassessed from year 6 2029?

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missbish · 23/02/2026 06:07

Are they taking the piss? After the struggles parents have trying to secure support for their child, they’re then going to threaten to take it away once they’re due to go to secondary? Ds goes to secondary this year so I don’t think it will effect him but I am so angry for those it does effect.

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Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 19:21

Fearfulsaints · 23/02/2026 19:19

But your debate doesnt really focus on the proposals recommended by the white paper and consultation document. It hardly engages with the actual stuff suggested and whether this will save money. So it starts to feel a bit like you just want the opportunity to dig at people for costing a lot.

Take taxis. I dont think most people want to be taxid far from home. Most people would want to have the support they needed at their local school. So the proposals might help with that because they talk about inclusion hubs, early help, access to professionals- but they might not as the people most likely to be in a taxi are those in special schools and therefore more likely to get the specialist packages proposed that retain an ehcp.

Many aren’t taxied far from home.

ive known of taxis used to transport children just over a mile, with parent not working.

SleeplessInWherever · 23/02/2026 19:24

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 19:21

Many aren’t taxied far from home.

ive known of taxis used to transport children just over a mile, with parent not working.

We both work (not sure why that’s even relevant) and take our son ourselves because we live within a certain geographical radius so he doesn’t qualify for transport.

We take him to school for 8am, just like “normal parents.”

Next anecdote.

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 19:24

SleeplessInWherever · 23/02/2026 19:24

We both work (not sure why that’s even relevant) and take our son ourselves because we live within a certain geographical radius so he doesn’t qualify for transport.

We take him to school for 8am, just like “normal parents.”

Next anecdote.

It’s not an anecdote it’s my workplace experience. Just because you do something it doesn’t mean everyone else does.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 23/02/2026 19:25

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 19:21

Many aren’t taxied far from home.

ive known of taxis used to transport children just over a mile, with parent not working.

Maybe they don't work because of the disabled child or children?

N0m0rerain · 23/02/2026 19:30

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 19:24

It’s not an anecdote it’s my workplace experience. Just because you do something it doesn’t mean everyone else does.

And just because you’ve experienced something ( and know nothing about the circumstances ) doesn’t mean every everybody else does the same.

missbish · 23/02/2026 19:31

Araminta1003 · 23/02/2026 18:46

@missbish

https://medschool.ucla.edu/news-article/is-autism-genetic

Autism is hereditary and therefore does run in families. A majority (around 80%) of autism cases can be linked to inherited genetic mutations. The remaining cases likely stem from non-inherited mutations.
There’s no evidence that children can develop autism after early fetal development as a result of exposure to vaccines or postnatal toxins.
Everything known to cause autism occurs during early brain development,” says Dr. Geschwind.

“People might think there’s no point in diagnosing an incurable condition early,” says Dr. Geschwind. “They think they can’t do anything, but that’s not true. The earlier you diagnose and begin treatment, the greater impact you’ll have on the child.”
Autism’s highly variable nature makes precision treatments, which factor in an individual’s genes and lifestyle, particularly promising.

Yes I am well aware asd is genetic, I am autistic, my son is, most my family has adhd/asd. I was asking more specifically about what you meant by sequencing babies genes ?

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missbish · 23/02/2026 19:33

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 19:21

Many aren’t taxied far from home.

ive known of taxis used to transport children just over a mile, with parent not working.

Well I don’t think that’s right as usually if you live within a 3 mile radius you aren’t eligible for transport

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Araminta1003 · 23/02/2026 19:35

The plan was to eventually sequence everyone’s genes from birth. So early sequencing may lead to earlier interventions, diagnosis and precision treatment without a massive fight for parents. So early speech and language and social skills help, for example.
Then another poster butted in and accused me of eugenics! Which is the opposite of what I meant! That poster should apologise!

ExistingonCoffee · 23/02/2026 19:37

Oh look, two more insults to add to the list. Aggressive, blackmailing, demanding, sharp-elbowed, unreasonable, hysterical, lazy, weak, after golden tickets/gold-plated provision/the best education… and on and on.

Whether a parent works or not isn’t part of the legislation around transport.

Transport for DC attending a school a mile away would be because the child’sSEN &/or disability means they cannot reasonably be expected to walk &/or there isn’t a safe walking route SEN or not.

DrPrunesqualer · 23/02/2026 19:37

Coffeeandbooks88 · 23/02/2026 19:25

Maybe they don't work because of the disabled child or children?

Surely if they aren’t working because they are a carer
then part of that is getting their kid to school

No one does part of my job for me. I do it all.

Fearfulsaints · 23/02/2026 19:39

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 19:21

Many aren’t taxied far from home.

ive known of taxis used to transport children just over a mile, with parent not working.

Does anything in the white paper or send consultation reference a change to transport qualification criteria though? Its long so im still going through it.

Remember, they are targeting ehcps to reduce to current levels of 5% by 2035 after a predicted increase for a few more years.

So in my hopeful view local inclusion hubs might reduce need for taxis which it does says in the paper where I've got so far.

But now you are saying they wont as people get them to go a mile. So why is this proposal saving taxi costs or did you just want to moan about taxi costs.

Avantiagain · 23/02/2026 19:41

"ive known of taxis used to transport children just over a mile, with parent not working."

I know someone who had that. The family didn't have a car and the child couldn't walk.

Avantiagain · 23/02/2026 19:45

"Does anything in the white paper or send consultation reference a change to transport qualification criteria though? "

It doesn't say anything.
Some posters are just desperate to say that this, this and this will be stopping when the white paper says nothing about it.

Araminta1003 · 23/02/2026 19:47

FFS, I know a child who gets a taxi to a quite local school, she is blind! It is not safe for her to walk there.

SleeplessInWherever · 23/02/2026 19:54

DrPrunesqualer · 23/02/2026 19:37

Surely if they aren’t working because they are a carer
then part of that is getting their kid to school

No one does part of my job for me. I do it all.

I’m sure you do, but your child isn’t disabled - I assume.

That means you don’t need adapted transport, you may well be able to walk there, your child probably doesn’t go to school 20 miles away because the nearest suitable school wasn’t in your LA - or even the next one, you don’t need multiple adults to get one child to school…. etc.

DrPrunesqualer · 23/02/2026 19:59

SleeplessInWherever · 23/02/2026 19:54

I’m sure you do, but your child isn’t disabled - I assume.

That means you don’t need adapted transport, you may well be able to walk there, your child probably doesn’t go to school 20 miles away because the nearest suitable school wasn’t in your LA - or even the next one, you don’t need multiple adults to get one child to school…. etc.

Mine aren’t at school anymore
I have three
One with Autism and adhd

Their school that suited all their needs, including his was 29 miles away.
Both dh and I work as Architects and took them to school, picked them up and carried on with our day jobs

Not all children offered transport need adapted vehicles

I was also referring to a pp that stated perhaps the parent is a carer….being a carer doesn’t in fact mean an automatic right to council funded taxis.

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 20:00

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 19:09

https://www.npt.gov.uk/council-tax/your-council-tax-2025-2026-explained/where-council-tax-goes/

Take this one (each council provides a breakdown of their spending). £770 out of every £2000 is spent on education (and given the schools core budget is centrally funded, this will almost all be spent on SEND). It’s 38%.

Is nobody going to comment on this?

SleeplessInWherever · 23/02/2026 20:01

DrPrunesqualer · 23/02/2026 19:59

Mine aren’t at school anymore
I have three
One with Autism and adhd

Their school that suited all their needs, including his was 29 miles away.
Both dh and I work as Architects and took them to school, picked them up and carried on with our day jobs

Not all children offered transport need adapted vehicles

I was also referring to a pp that stated perhaps the parent is a carer….being a carer doesn’t in fact mean an automatic right to council funded taxis.

Edited

You likely didn’t have to do that, I’d imagine 29miles would have qualified for transport.

missbish · 23/02/2026 20:03

DrPrunesqualer · 23/02/2026 19:59

Mine aren’t at school anymore
I have three
One with Autism and adhd

Their school that suited all their needs, including his was 29 miles away.
Both dh and I work as Architects and took them to school, picked them up and carried on with our day jobs

Not all children offered transport need adapted vehicles

I was also referring to a pp that stated perhaps the parent is a carer….being a carer doesn’t in fact mean an automatic right to council funded taxis.

Edited

Why didn’t you take advantage of the transport I’m guessing you’d have been eligible for then ? And I’m guessing your job as architects meant you were route flexible freelancing ? Not everyone has that freedom with work

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N0m0rerain · 23/02/2026 20:04

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 20:00

Is nobody going to comment on this?

What about it?

Its schools and education and covers:-

  • Special Educational Needs and Disability (SEND) services: Funding for support services for children with additional needs.
  • School buildings and improvements: Funding capital projects, such as building new schools or repairing existing facilities.
  • School transport: Funding transport services for children getting to school.
  • Children and young people's services:Supporting youth services and child protection.
  • General Education Administration: Supporting local authority education administration.
Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 20:12

N0m0rerain · 23/02/2026 20:04

What about it?

Its schools and education and covers:-

  • Special Educational Needs and Disability (SEND) services: Funding for support services for children with additional needs.
  • School buildings and improvements: Funding capital projects, such as building new schools or repairing existing facilities.
  • School transport: Funding transport services for children getting to school.
  • Children and young people's services:Supporting youth services and child protection.
  • General Education Administration: Supporting local authority education administration.

You can fake nonchalance but 38% is staggeringly high given the majority of it will go on SEN. It’s too high.

missbish · 23/02/2026 20:15

@PlayingvideogamesNow I might be wrong here, and correct me if I am, but I get a feeling you’re not happy about Sen provisions ?

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N0m0rerain · 23/02/2026 20:15

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 20:12

You can fake nonchalance but 38% is staggeringly high given the majority of it will go on SEN. It’s too high.

Pretty similar to services for older people. Good use of money. It won’t be reducing any time soon as parents with children who don’t have SEN don’t want their kids impacted by a lack of provision. Everybody also knows that poor SEND provision ends up costing the tax payer more in the long run.

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 20:17

missbish · 23/02/2026 20:15

@PlayingvideogamesNow I might be wrong here, and correct me if I am, but I get a feeling you’re not happy about Sen provisions ?

I’m not happy about the spirally, endless rise in costs, the impact it’s having on the functioning of council duties, not to mention the fact it isn’t producing any satisfactory results, no. Are you happy with it?

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 20:18

N0m0rerain · 23/02/2026 20:15

Pretty similar to services for older people. Good use of money. It won’t be reducing any time soon as parents with children who don’t have SEN don’t want their kids impacted by a lack of provision. Everybody also knows that poor SEND provision ends up costing the tax payer more in the long run.

It is reducing as the legal obligations are being reduced. That’s literally what has happened today.