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Electric cars are NOT the future, are they?

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Isometimeswonder · 20/02/2026 12:05

I am genuinely torn. I need want a new car but really don't want electric.
But so few smaller petrol cars are made now.
I haven't got a place to charge a car at home.
AIBU I should accept electric is the future.
AINBU I should get petrol. (Please recommend a small city car)

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LeftBoobGoneRogue · 26/02/2026 12:11

BlueEyedBogWitch · 20/02/2026 12:08

I don’t get how they’re any better for the environment. Lithium mining is a nightmare, cars have to be scrapped once the battery goes, and then there’s the issue of where all the old batteries will get dumped.

And electricity comes mainly from fossil
fuels in the UK anyway!

Edited

@BlueEyedBogWitchMore and more electricity generated in the UK is from renewables (over 50% January 2026 see attached). We have stopped using coal and the use of gas is falling.
Today a geothermal power plant is starting to generate electricity in Cornwall, for the first time. More sites are being planned.
Batteries can be replaced.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/energy-trends-and-prices-statistical-release-29-january-2026/energy-trends-and-prices-statistical-release-29-january-2026

Purplebunnie · 26/02/2026 12:25

taxguru · 26/02/2026 11:36

Then service stations would need bigger car parks, not just to have bigger spaces for the charging units etc., but also because cars will, on average, be parked there for a longer period of time. Many service station car parks are already pretty busy/full at peak times, so they'll have to expand, buy adjoining land and build bigger car parks. Is that feasible? Who will pay? Not just service stations but other "stop offs" en route such as drive through McDonalds, Burger Kings, Costa Coffees etc - usually already very small car parks, often full, they're not going to want people clogging up their car parks staying longer whilst charging are they?

Maybe there will be more purpose built charging stations like the one near Banbury. Someone thought it was worth the cost to build it and put in 32 totally dedicated chargers, a Costa Coffee, Hotel Chocolat and a Miller& Carter. I have to tell you that the experience we had there was way superior to stopping at Beaconsfield which was our normal stop over point. And I managed to score some Christmas presents at Hotel Chocolat so win win.

If you are eating at a service station then many people will already be there for an hour anyway and that is enough charge if you have planned and researched your journey out properly. There are also quite a few service stations that have farmers markets etc and people are spending more time when they stop.

Costa, Burger King and McDonalds etc will have to do their research to see if it is worth their while.

OooPourUsACupLove · 26/02/2026 12:41

taxguru · 26/02/2026 11:36

Then service stations would need bigger car parks, not just to have bigger spaces for the charging units etc., but also because cars will, on average, be parked there for a longer period of time. Many service station car parks are already pretty busy/full at peak times, so they'll have to expand, buy adjoining land and build bigger car parks. Is that feasible? Who will pay? Not just service stations but other "stop offs" en route such as drive through McDonalds, Burger Kings, Costa Coffees etc - usually already very small car parks, often full, they're not going to want people clogging up their car parks staying longer whilst charging are they?

You know you don't have to fill the whole battery every time, yes?

Far more likely that people who do short stops over the day will do a twenty minute charge here and there.

OooPourUsACupLove · 26/02/2026 12:50

SwirlyGates · 26/02/2026 11:45

DH and I share long drives, and often just stop long enough for the loo and on a very long drive for petrol, then switch drivers. The passenger eats in the car while the other is driving. We don't "look for somewhere nice to stop on the way."

And you aren't the person I was replying to, who does stop for breaks but doesn't like service stations and whose concern was how EV charging would fit into that.

Unless you and your husband are peeing in bottles like lorry drivers, you'll be charging while you pee. Maybe an extra 20 minutes on top of pee time if you are driving 300 miles or so and need to fully charge from a lowish battery. Less if you aren't.

Elbowpatch · 26/02/2026 12:52

Maybe there will be more purpose built charging stations like the one near Banbury. Someone thought it was worth the cost to build it and put in 32 totally dedicated chargers, a Costa Coffee, Hotel Chocolat and a Miller& Carter. I have to tell you that the experience we had there was way superior to stopping at Beaconsfield which was our normal stop over point.

Until somebody comes in towing a caravan. They didn’t think of that.

OooPourUsACupLove · 26/02/2026 13:00

Elbowpatch · 26/02/2026 12:52

Maybe there will be more purpose built charging stations like the one near Banbury. Someone thought it was worth the cost to build it and put in 32 totally dedicated chargers, a Costa Coffee, Hotel Chocolat and a Miller& Carter. I have to tell you that the experience we had there was way superior to stopping at Beaconsfield which was our normal stop over point.

Until somebody comes in towing a caravan. They didn’t think of that.

There's a detailed post about the current and future practicalities of towing with EVs already in the thread. You should read it.

Justploddingonandon · 26/02/2026 13:29

LupinLou · 26/02/2026 09:50

I don't think I've ever stopped in a motorway service station for more than 10 minutes, they're strictly emergency loo stops only for me.

Longer stops are planned with better food options and nicer surroundings.

I always find it amusing that so many always say 'by the time you've had a coffee your car will be charged' as if it's a given that everyone pays for overpriced coffee in service stations. Costa was something like 4.50 for a small latte in a service station the last time, that soon eats into those fuel savings!

A lot of National Trust places (including some not far from motorways) have EV chargers now days. Admittedly not many and they're not the fastest, but I've never spent less than 2 hours at a National Trust place even when I'm just stopping for a break while doing a long journey.

Talipesmum · 26/02/2026 13:47

OooPourUsACupLove · 26/02/2026 08:10

Jesus! I posted it as an example that the problems people are raising can and are being addressed. I'm not suggesting it's now set in stone as The One And Only Way to Get a Gully!

Just like the start of motor cars back in the 1890s, the infrastructure and the new norms will take time. But they will come. The problems will be solved. The tipping point will come where ICE infrastructure is less available than EV.

MN 1890 would have written off motor vehicles because "The whole idea is ridiculous! I mean, what's the point of something that can only go as fast as a man with a flag? I might as well walk!"

Absolutely - I can see the infrastructure improving rapidly. When it reaches that tipping point for me, we’ll switch over. That tipping point comes at different times for different people depending on where they live, local current infrastructure etc.

I don’t think there’s a huge danger of “getting left behind” for me. I’m lucky to be able to afford to buy one when I choose. Technology is moving on fast and I’ll hop on when it works best for me.

Elbowpatch · 26/02/2026 13:58

OooPourUsACupLove · 26/02/2026 13:00

There's a detailed post about the current and future practicalities of towing with EVs already in the thread. You should read it.

Thanks. I’ll take your word for it but, unfortunately, it has eluded my search.

glowfrog · 26/02/2026 14:28

Elbowpatch · 26/02/2026 13:58

Thanks. I’ll take your word for it but, unfortunately, it has eluded my search.

I think might be the post @OooPourUsACupLovemight be referring to:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5493361-electric-cars-are-not-the-future-are-they?reply=150726488&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

funrunsunday · 26/02/2026 14:45

We've had EVs (quite a few different ones) for over 6 years now.

They absolutely are the future for me and I wouldn't go back. However, I have a drive and charge at home with ease. I understand the resistance from those who don't have access to off street parking and charge at home options.

JuliettaCaeser · 26/02/2026 15:49

Definitely would never go back. Love our EV - no home charging. We make it work. Range is 220 miles not sure I could drive that far without needing a stop (not at 51 with my bladder anyway!) so recharging on
our rare long journeys is not a drama.

Lincslady53 · 26/02/2026 16:09

LupinLou · 26/02/2026 09:50

I don't think I've ever stopped in a motorway service station for more than 10 minutes, they're strictly emergency loo stops only for me.

Longer stops are planned with better food options and nicer surroundings.

I always find it amusing that so many always say 'by the time you've had a coffee your car will be charged' as if it's a given that everyone pays for overpriced coffee in service stations. Costa was something like 4.50 for a small latte in a service station the last time, that soon eats into those fuel savings!

We have recently got our first EV, and so far think it is excellent. Only charged at home so far, but looking at a long trip in a couple of week's, down the M6, then the M5. There are several apps that plan the route including where EV charging stations are. We dont intend to use a Motorway service station, as we never did with our ICE car. Many large supermarkets have fast charging stations, Arnold Clark car dealerships have relatively low priced charging stations. Small stations are tucked away all over the place, business parks, National Trust properties, there is one near my home town at a beauty spot with views over the countryside. It is a different way if thinking. You don't stop and fill up. You stop for something else and put the car on charge while you are there, putting enough in to get you home to charge at a cheap rate. It won't suit everyone at the moment, but our car has a range of over 300 miles, and was cheaper new that a similar sized petrol car. And it brilliant to drive. I might have reservations once we get into longer trips, but it is rare for us to drive for more than 300 miles in a day, so suits us just fine.

Ayebrow · 26/02/2026 16:17

Elbowpatch · 26/02/2026 11:57

The Local Chemist: Since petrol was originally sold as a cleaning solvent or a treatment for head lice, you bought it at the apothecary or chemist. It was sold in two-gallon triangular cans (often called "Pratts" or "Shell" cans).

Never trust AI. They were rectangular. We have one in our shed.

Be somewhat cautious in trusting just your own knowledge and experience in attempting to correct another PP’s contribution - AI does not always hallucinate. Early petrol cans were often triangular. Plenty of “vintage” examples on eBay etc. This one is excellent…

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/29/fe/c6/29fec6d994fe1ab6a35b232cd213e8d9.jpg

Ayebrow · 26/02/2026 16:44

@Lincslady53

I might have reservations once we get into longer trips

Sounds like you’ll do ok - if you’ve already seen that Arnold Clark rapid chargers are more reasonable than other networks you’re clearly not heading out unprepared 😀

We found them via the Electroverse app - which has so far done brilliantly for us. The only other app we use is the Tesla one. If you put your car type in that, it will only show you sites where non-Tesla cars can charge.

crackofdoom · 26/02/2026 18:26

LeftBoobGoneRogue · 26/02/2026 12:11

@BlueEyedBogWitchMore and more electricity generated in the UK is from renewables (over 50% January 2026 see attached). We have stopped using coal and the use of gas is falling.
Today a geothermal power plant is starting to generate electricity in Cornwall, for the first time. More sites are being planned.
Batteries can be replaced.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/energy-trends-and-prices-statistical-release-29-january-2026/energy-trends-and-prices-statistical-release-29-january-2026

Today?! Whoop, off to Google!

I have been following the geothermal project for a while- I assume it's the United Downs one? It's taken them a little time to get going- first they blamed Covid, then it turned out the machinery they needed was only produced in Russia, etc etc...

Alexandra2001 · 26/02/2026 18:41

OooPourUsACupLove · 25/02/2026 17:33

Just for fun, I asked Gemini about the practicalities of early motoring....

You said
When people first starting using motor cars in the UK, where did they buy petrol and how far could the car go between fuel stops?

Gemini said
It’s hard to imagine now, but in the earliest days of motoring (the late 1890s and early 1900s), there wasn't a "petrol station" in sight. Buying fuel was more like a trip to the pharmacy than a pit stop at a BP.

Here is how the pioneers of the road kept their horseless carriages moving.

Where Did They Buy Petrol?
Before the first dedicated filling station opened in the UK (which didn't happen until 1919 in Aldermaston), motorists had to be resourceful.

The Local Chemist: Since petrol was originally sold as a cleaning solvent or a treatment for head lice, you bought it at the apothecary or chemist. It was sold in two-gallon triangular cans (often called "Pratts" or "Shell" cans).

Ironmongers and Hotels: As cars became slightly more common, blacksmiths, ironmongers, and even upscale hotels began stocking these two-gallon tins in their stables or outbuildings.

The "Pour and Pray": There were no pumps. You had to use a funnel with a chamois leather filter (to strain out debris and water) and manually pour the heavy cans into the tank—usually while wearing leather gloves and trying not to splash your tweed suit.

Range and Efficiency
The distance a car could travel between "fuel stops" was often dictated more by the availability of shops than the size of the fuel tank.

Feature
Early Edwardian Reality (Approx. 1900–1905)
Fuel Tank Capacity
Usually 4 to 10 gallons.
Fuel Economy
Surprisingly decent, often 20–30 mpg, because the cars were very light and moved very slowly.
Average Range
Theoretically 80–150 miles, but practically much shorter.

The "Range Anxiety" of 1900
While a car could go 100 miles on a tank, early motorists rarely risked it for a few reasons:

Reliability: You were more likely to suffer a mechanical breakdown or a puncture than to run out of fuel.

Scarcity: If you left a major town, you had no guarantee the next village chemist would have petrol in stock. Motorists often sent crates of fuel ahead by rail to their destination to ensure they could get home.

The "Red Flag" Legacy: Until 1896, the law required a person to walk in front of the car. Even after that was abolished, speeds were generally capped at 20 mph, making a 100-mile trip an exhausting, all-day marathon.

Moving around back then required more logistics than a modern space launch!

There were only a handful of cars in 1895, even by 1900 there were only a few 100.

UK pop was 41m... everything was local or you walked

I get what what you re saying but to compare issues with 1890s fueling to being able to charge an EV in a terraced street is not a good comparison.... a better one would be the adoption of mobile phones... i worked for BT/GPO and we didn't think they'd take off..... they were massive and cost a fortune.... who knew!!

EV charging will need to be be far faster and cars have longer ranges for EVs to be be practical for all, then there are lorries/vans/construction and agriculture, none suitable for the current tech.

OooPourUsACupLove · 26/02/2026 18:55

Alexandra2001 · 26/02/2026 18:41

There were only a handful of cars in 1895, even by 1900 there were only a few 100.

UK pop was 41m... everything was local or you walked

I get what what you re saying but to compare issues with 1890s fueling to being able to charge an EV in a terraced street is not a good comparison.... a better one would be the adoption of mobile phones... i worked for BT/GPO and we didn't think they'd take off..... they were massive and cost a fortune.... who knew!!

EV charging will need to be be far faster and cars have longer ranges for EVs to be be practical for all, then there are lorries/vans/construction and agriculture, none suitable for the current tech.

I did mobile phones upthread 😁

The 1890s was more to point out that the infrastructure for ICEs wasn't there at first, and was built out in response to people using cars not vice versa.

Talipesmum · 26/02/2026 19:07

OooPourUsACupLove · 26/02/2026 18:55

I did mobile phones upthread 😁

The 1890s was more to point out that the infrastructure for ICEs wasn't there at first, and was built out in response to people using cars not vice versa.

And there were a lot more people who waited for roads to be built and petrol to be more readily available before getting their first car. Just like there are plenty of people waiting for infrastructure to improve a lot more before getting their first electric car. They’re not missing out if they’re waiting for it to work for them.

OooPourUsACupLove · 26/02/2026 20:33

Talipesmum · 26/02/2026 19:07

And there were a lot more people who waited for roads to be built and petrol to be more readily available before getting their first car. Just like there are plenty of people waiting for infrastructure to improve a lot more before getting their first electric car. They’re not missing out if they’re waiting for it to work for them.

Uh, yes? Not sure what your point is.

Although I doubt they wanted a car but were just waiting for the roads and petrol to turn up. I suspect, like many on this thread, they just saw the limitations and didn't get the point of a car, until one day they suddenly did.

Again, it's the difference between "I can't because" and "I can if".

OooPourUsACupLove · 26/02/2026 20:41

But the infrastructure didn't turn up in response to people not using cars, but to meet the needs of those who already were. If everybody had waited, it wouldn't have happened.

Chersfrozenface · 26/02/2026 20:51

OooPourUsACupLove · 26/02/2026 20:41

But the infrastructure didn't turn up in response to people not using cars, but to meet the needs of those who already were. If everybody had waited, it wouldn't have happened.

That's not how Norway has become the country with the greatest proportion of electric cars per capita.

Norway made sure that the charging infrastructure was there so that getting an EV was an easy option.

Talipesmum · 26/02/2026 21:07

OooPourUsACupLove · 26/02/2026 20:33

Uh, yes? Not sure what your point is.

Although I doubt they wanted a car but were just waiting for the roads and petrol to turn up. I suspect, like many on this thread, they just saw the limitations and didn't get the point of a car, until one day they suddenly did.

Again, it's the difference between "I can't because" and "I can if".

No - it’s the gap between “I could but it would be tedious and annoying” and “I will when it becomes less tedious and annoying”. You’re implying a very closed and negative mindset - which is probably the case for some people but not for a lot of others. Sure there’ll be benefit, but not yet.

OooPourUsACupLove · 26/02/2026 21:28

Talipesmum · 26/02/2026 21:07

No - it’s the gap between “I could but it would be tedious and annoying” and “I will when it becomes less tedious and annoying”. You’re implying a very closed and negative mindset - which is probably the case for some people but not for a lot of others. Sure there’ll be benefit, but not yet.

Sure, but the people on this thread I'm talking about and to are very much of the "it'll never work because" mindset. Have you read the thread?

Allergictoironing · 27/02/2026 06:45

I'm not of the "it'll never work" mindset, but I am very sceptical about not just the infrastructure being good enough in the near future, but also about a few aspects of the technology itself. Plus I'm a bit of a "belt and braces" person due to past experience with tech.

I think much of my wariness is the total reliance in the tech working efficiently and perfectly. I would need evidence of safeguards such as what happens with the 1 pedal driving system if a mouse gets in and chews the cable - will the brakes work perfectly? How tough is the battery technology so that it can survive a medium level accident that may harm the body of any car but wouldn't need replacement of the engine? How are they affected if there's a big solar flare that can impact electronics? Safeguards against hacking? These are the kind of questions that have meant we still don't have self driving cars despite years of research and testing.

I've worked in the tech industry for far too long to depend on it without these questions and others being answered.

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