Man left his girlfriend to freeze to death

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Man left his girlfriend to freeze when she was struggling on a mountain hike.

He's been found guilty of manslaughter.

So many aspects of his account don't make sense - AIBU to wonder if he did it on purpose?

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Your comprehension skills are shocking.

You keep reading half of my posts and then asking silly questions.

Please read my post properly before quoting it and asking me daft questions.

I am then more than happy to have a discussion about it.

It is a terrible story. It seems like Kerstin could have been rescued at 10pm but he was determined to summit at that time. I think he had tunnel vision and didn't recognise the danger she was in - the fact the last girlfriend he abandoned survived would in many ways have reinforced the belief she would be fine. I don't think we planned or wanted her to die, but I do think he sounds an absolute dick.

Yes - in the reports I read the wind chill was -20C and they were not even properly equipped (she was climbing in snowboarding boots)

Exactly. There was no blizzard. The poster you quoted takes something she's heard or read and adds her own words to it, despite her stating several times she's only interested in facts and evidence.
The fact was it was exceptionally windy but there was no blizzard.

The thing is, he can claim anything and nobody would know anything different as Kirstin, the one person who might know, is dead.

Wow 😲.

Abusive reply.

It was a simple question.

You don't scare me @Tacohill Nor will you silence me.

I think he was just determined to summit. Which he did.

It's a bit baffling why he even wanted her to do the climb with him - a really hard climb in tough winter snow and ice conditions, when she only had experience of summer climbing. And chose a route with no way of returning on the ascent - why would you do that with an inexperienced climber? And he didn't tell her she was wearing the wrong gear. And then didn't put her blanket or bivvy bag on her. Either he's the world's most thoughtless, selfish, idiotic prick or there's more going on.

Sorry English is not my first language.

Some reports and posters say blizzard so I used it to mean extreme weather conditions - basically that they should turned back around as soon as it was evident that these were not ok conditions to climb in.

Who’s trying to scare you or silence you.

I literally said read my posts and then we can discuss - literally the opposite of trying to silence you 😂

I have said in multiple posts that you’ve quoted of mine that I completely agree with the judges opinions and decisions - and then you ask me whether I agree with the judges decision 🙈

The prosecution also mentioned that they found her in another place than the one he described. It all seems rather strange to me. Why not use What3words to confirm the location or WhatsApp pin?

Either he's the world's most thoughtless, selfish, idiotic prick or there's more going on.

Occam's razor - I suspect this man is 'just' a thoughtless, selfish, idiotic prick

The night was clear, a very starry night as is evident from the cam recorder showing their headlamps.

Ice forms on top of windy chill factors and doesn't blow around.

But they never did turn back. He left her 50m metres from the summit while he continued to the summit and down the opposite side.

Didn't they also get stuck around 2 hours before the rescue helicopter came? - so his argument that they were not in trouble doesn't make a lot of sense

Well you could have just said yes instead of questioning my comprehension skills, clearly designed on your behalf to belittle me, which is abusive.

He could well be. You do get that mentality among extreme sports obsessives.

I suspect what he meant by that was HE wasn't in trouble. Kirstin clearly was. But he didn't care enough about that to not want to finish HIS climb.

I do a lot of mountaineering, though no longer over winter, and I’m horrified by the whole story. Ignoring everything that came later, they should not have started out without her having proper footwear, including crampons and an ice axe (and known how to use them). It is as basic as it comes to not go up a winter mountain without those. If she didn’t know this and, for example, insisted she would be fine, he should have refused to start the climb. More than once I have told DH that he must change some clothing (shorts for a low level, snow free hill, but in January!!!) or add something to his bag before we are going out.

Not bizarre. Hypoxia causes brain damage, and one of the effects in the last stages of hypothermia, shortly before death, is the feeling of being too hot. So victims take their clothes off. Same in the death of British climber David Sharp, reportedly.

What’s with the victim mentality??

More than once you have quoted half of my posts and asked me questions that you would know the answer to if you read the entire post you quoted.

She fell.

He’d climbed it many times before, apparently some at night in similar harsh conditions. She never. The judge dismissed the grieving mother’s suggestion that she was as experienced as him.

Again many people who frankly have no business being there because they don't have the capability to climb Everest. A lot of the operators are just dangerous by any standards. Not to mention the dangers from there being too many tourists on the mountain full stop.

There's something they call 'summit fever' where basically all logic, rational thought and regard for safety protocols goes out the window because people become so fixated on reaching the summit.

Forgetting that you haven't climbed a mountain if you fail to also safely get back home...

It's a known issue and one that many have fallen foul of.

I'm not a victim. However you are being abusive.