Unfriending right wing friends

[nondrinker1985]

One of my school mum friends of around 10 years has started sharing loads of Restore Britain/Rupert Lowe posts.

I’m actually really shocked as she’s an Irish immigrant herself.

I’ve unfriended her which is a shame as day to day she’s ok. Also another mum who has been liking and commenting on the Restore Britain posts, they’ll probably tell me they’re not racist but I can’t be arsed calling them out.

You say she's Irish - was she born in the UK or emigrated here?
It's perfectly possible to be Irish and racist but the Irish could also be in the firing line once the repatriation starts.
I'm Irish and while it doesn't worry me as such that I will have to leave here (I don't think Reform will get in), it does worry a bit that Reform voters wouldn't care if I did have to leave.

You mean, racism and misogyny are correct opinions??????? 😅

Yanbu. It’s ok to have different opinions but when it comes down to morals and the way we view and treat others, I’d rather not associate with people who support the likes of Tommy Robinson and Farage. It speaks volumes about their character.

Sounds like shes dodged a bullet, the rubbish taking itself out so to speak

Woman voting against their own rights blows my mind.

It boggles my mind that women vote for Trump in the same way. Makes me fucking despair actually.

Being racist is normally the actions of someone with no intelligence. So yeah, fair observation.

My Facebook friends are people I actually know and who I would let into my home. I am free to unfriend people who don't share my values. Mumsnet is my antidote to the echo chamber. There are posters on here I really wouldn't want to know in real life but I read their opinions ... for a while then drop the thread and never look at it again.

Exactly, they always think that part won't affect them, until it does and it's too late.

I think sharing social media soundbites, memes is unwise you're bound to offend someone.

That really REALLY made me laugh! Cheers.

It's not politics, it's values. I can maintain my friendship with my conservative friends who object to vat on private schools and want to keep more of their £200k plus income. I ended a friendship, years ago, with someone who expressed acceptance of disabled people dying as a side effect of cutting benefits.

For me, there's enough information out there about Farage, about Reforms potential ties to Russia, about senior policy advisors interests in Turning Point and anti choice that someone voting Reform (or Restore UK) is likely to have fundamentally different values to me.

I've seen some of the policies so far, but probably not all.
Which ones do people particularly disagree with?
I'm glad repealing the Gender Recognition Act is on there and I don't think any other party has mentioned that.

There will come a point in time when people occupying the sainted halls of the benevolent left realise that shouting down, unfriending, fingers in ears, everybody who i dont agree with is a fascist racist thuggist gammonist nazi idiot is exactly what is leading to the rise of the ridiculously far right and its acolytes.

No debate has never been a successful strategy but if you want to polarize - this is the way to achieve it.

And you see them wailing about it on social media. But they didn’t think it would effect them you see…

Wasn't there some Hispanic Trump voters who then wailed about the ICE agents taking some friends and family away?

Do you mean you’ve just unfriended them on social media? Cos I wouldn’t want anything to do with racists in real life either, and I’d tell them exactly why if they asked.

Is this sort of tribal thinking/package ethics mindset, along with a “no debate” stance that made me decide to become an independent. I wish people on the left would be more open minded/open to discussion, you do your party no favors by behaving like this.

"Brexiters" - so around 50% of the population then?

How would you know if someone votes reform or not it’s private?

That's actually not fair. When racist folks presented with facts regarding a lot of racism and immigration issues, people do not want to hear it. I've experienced this myself in person and mainly online.

A lot of folk are too far gone to want to hear any other view, or more importantly truth and facts.

Wanting to discuss immigration is fine unless the reason for it is that they are all rapists wanting to kill us or destroy our way of life. That's racist. The existence of a few people of a particular ethnicity or religion who are criminals does not mean everyone of that ethnicity or religion is a criminal. That's racist.

No, abput 30% at the time of the vote. I don’t think you can assume non-voters supported Brexit. Polls show that lots of people who voted Brexit now believe it to be a mistake, so it’ll be less than a third.

I can't see them removing Irish people, given the border agreements, and the long-standing agreement on the free movement of citizens of Ireland and the UK.

Irish and British people even have reciprocal voting rights. The Irish people people voted by an overwhelming majority to allow UK citizens to vote in the Republic of Ireland.

Someone has already explained the difference between concern about immigration levels and racism, but could you explain how you came to the conclusion that the left have used mass immigration to impose a new identity on the country?

1. Immigration increased massively under the Tories and is reducing under Labour
2. What new identity? I don’t think I’ve noticed one.