Unfriending right wing friends

[nondrinker1985]

One of my school mum friends of around 10 years has started sharing loads of Restore Britain/Rupert Lowe posts.

I’m actually really shocked as she’s an Irish immigrant herself.

I’ve unfriended her which is a shame as day to day she’s ok. Also another mum who has been liking and commenting on the Restore Britain posts, they’ll probably tell me they’re not racist but I can’t be arsed calling them out.

I am worried about the misogyny of the right who want to limit our reproductive freedom. I’m also concerned about misogyny from Islamic fundamentalist who practice honour killings. I’m worried about misogyny from the left who want to let men in women’s spaces. Misogyny and hate is there on all sides, and while I’m pretty left wing on most issues, I wouldn’t block someone simply for being Reform. I’m willing to talk to them and try and understand where they’re coming from, especially if they’re my friend or family member because I approach my friends and family from the assumption they’re good people.

Posts like this just reflect your ignorance.

I would truly hate to inhabit such a miserable little mind.

According to pp they have stopped the family visas so the women and children get left in war torn wherever, often in a country where women aren’t allowed out on their own for an indefinite number of years while the men get on boats, get through our asylum system and find jobs that pay week enough to apply for proper visas? I think not.

@Helen1625 - it’s widely known that Restore is being bankrolled and promoted by racists too - sigh, I’m setting out facts and figures, you can’t just now ignore these with no back up.
I’m not sure what to say about ‘not buying’ it’s dangerous for women to flee Iran or Sudan, and why leaving as a family means less likelihood of any surviving the journey - it must be blindingly obvious why it may be so. There’s a good book ‘The Pianist of Syria’ that describes how and why they made the family decision that he leaves solo first, and his journey - don’t worry he settled in Germany.
Asylum seeking isn’t going to stop - hatred could do though - I live in hope.

Like I said earlier, it's always the lefties.....

Labour have made it pretty much impossible for women and children to join later, do you not mind that? Is it ok if Labour stop them

There are worse things than being a leftie.

So what do you think IS going on?

There are very few women and children on the board but if they existed, leaving them in a war torn country, often where women are not allowed out on their own, to wait for years while the man gets through our asylum system but still can’t bring them over until he is earning enough, would not be cool either.

Where are they?

You can’t be that much of a friend if you have to unfriend someone via Facebook. It sounds very immature .

I do mind that. Labour should not be pandering to the far right. They should have more integrity.

The left are all the same

Yes?

I'm interested to hear, who are the racists bankrolling Restore?

Who mentioned anything about hatred? It's entirely acceptable to challenge, to be concerned, to have questions and to question. No mention of hatred whatsoever, at least not from me. Forgive me for the generalisation but the left seem to have these rose tinted spectacles on and go about their day thinking we should just 'accept' everything and question nothing. I'm sorry but no. I won't just blindly accept that to have genuine concerns and to be just a little bit cross about things going on in the world means I must be an 'ist' (racist, fascist, misogynist) and every other insult that the left want to throw to silence debate.

When all the left can do is throw about insults to shut down debate......

You are being naive. A lot of these men are economic migrants and not genuine asylum seekers. Of course we should give asylum to anyone with a genuine need but we just do not have the resources to give a home to all those who arrive illegally. It’s interesting how so many of these men - who once they are granted asylum- go back for holidays to the country they fled because it was so dangerous.

It was in context and she was an immigrant. There is nothing rude in that.I

An immigrant is somebody who moved to a new country. There is no time limit on that definition.

Yep immediate unfriend…they hope to hurt loads of people with their hate

The person who started the thread posted a list of things that Rupert Lowe is supposed to have said and actually it's hard to see what's wrong with at least half of the things listed. Perhaps with an open mind you could cast an eye over them and tell us what you find so morally reprehensible about them? I'll give you one example 'he suggested pausing visas and foreign aid to Pakistan until deported offenders are taken back.' It's widely known that Pakistan have refused to take citizens back who have committed crimes here. Is it wrong to say that their should be consequences for their actions?

That’s a relief!

So if we mention immigrants or immigration (what immigrants do) we are not automatically going to be called racist then as it is a perfectly polite word. Perfect.

I have a few right wing friends but they know I don’t agree with their political stance so we just don’t discuss it. I don’t see them as racists. They have their own reasons for voting the way they do. Not my business.

There are actually quite a lot of women coming over. Certainly not as many as the men, but there are still a significant number.

But yes, there are more men coming ahead of their families. The journey that most of them make is fraught with danger and many are exploited horribly along the way. When you hear the stories of some of the women who did travel, you start to understand why they might not want to risk it. And then there are the families who get separated along the way.

It's an impossible choice for these families and awful for the women to be left behind, but in many cases, the man going ahead looks like their only hope. They haven't necessarily got the funds to pay for everyone to make the journey, and they judge that it isn't safe for the women to make the journey alone, so they put all their hope in the man getting here and somehow establishing a life here so that the rest of the family can join them at a later date. They don't necessarily realise how long it will all take. They don't understand how incredibly hard it will be. And most of them don't realise that family reunion route has been suspended. They're vulnerable, they're desperate and they will believe whatever lies the traffickers try to spin them.

And what about the ones who share left wing propaganda? Do you unfriend and disassociate with them too?

It\s not really an issue of whose opinion is correct, though, is it? OP is perfectly free to decide who she wants as friends and who she doesn't, and to set her own criteria for that. Why do you think otherwise?

Germany has certainly passed some restrictive policies, e.g. suspended family reunification, temporary Schengen border controls, deportations to Afghanistan etc.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-suspends-refugees-family-reunification/a-72565576
https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/pressemitteilungen/EN/2025/02/binnengrenzkontrollen-EN.html
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/07/18/germany-deports-81-afghan-nationals-under-tougher-migration-policy

I only have full year Dublin figures for 2024 - Germany reported 5,827 outgoing transfers and 4,591 incoming transfers.

And yet you still ignore the whole point of my post to someone else

In what way?

This. Things have become so polarised these days.