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Unfriending right wing friends

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nondrinker1985 · 16/02/2026 16:53

One of my school mum friends of around 10 years has started sharing loads of Restore Britain/Rupert Lowe posts.

I’m actually really shocked as she’s an Irish immigrant herself.

I’ve unfriended her which is a shame as day to day she’s ok. Also another mum who has been liking and commenting on the Restore Britain posts, they’ll probably tell me they’re not racist but I can’t be arsed calling them out.

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Helen1625 · 16/02/2026 22:34

Happyjoe · 16/02/2026 22:20

Your first point, we do have a responsibility to help those esp from war torn countries or where their lives are in danger. But without the ability to claim asylum to the UK from their own country, they are left with little choice but to make the journey and enter illegally.
It will be a very sad day when the UK loses its ability to be human to those in need.

We did a fantastic job of helping the women and children fleeing Ukraine, we can be proud of that.

I think that with regards to the men in boats, first of all you would need to believe that they are fleeing a war torn country and I think we can safely say that the majority are not. Why do they hide their identities? Why do they toss their passports? Why not say 'this is who I am, this is where I am fleeing from, please help me.' We would. And why are we not seeing boats full of women and children? Where are they all? What kind of a man would leave his family and children in a war torn country? They are not even safely in the tents in France whilst the men take the perilous journey across the sea. They are nowhere to be seen. It doesn't add up.

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 16/02/2026 22:36

nondrinker1985 · 16/02/2026 21:15

This feels like a mix of a lot of claims that aren’t actually connected. One person speaking publicly about a crime doesn’t mean others didn’t care or didn’t respond.

Also the Epstein apology point is being misrepresented. That apology was about how victims were treated by institutions, not defending Epstein.

Grooming gangs and violence against women have been publicly discussed many times by multiple governments and MPs across parties. Reducing a complex issue to “one side cares and the other doesn’t” isn’t really accurate or helpful.

The Ministry of Justice under David Lammy is intending to delete millions of court records which will include the rape gangs trials, for no apparent reason.

Labour don’t seem to care very much about advancing an inquiry or retaining crucial information that will inform it.

Dweetfidilove · 16/02/2026 22:36

cardibach · 16/02/2026 18:15

Someone has already explained the difference between concern about immigration levels and racism, but could you explain how you came to the conclusion that the left have used mass immigration to impose a new identity on the country?

  1. Immigration increased massively under the Tories and is reducing under Labour
  2. What new identity? I don’t think I’ve noticed one.
Edited

I don't unfriend, because I can't then ask these questions. They never reply though 🤷🏾‍♀️.

KWaldron · 16/02/2026 22:37

Happyjoe · 16/02/2026 22:20

Your first point, we do have a responsibility to help those esp from war torn countries or where their lives are in danger. But without the ability to claim asylum to the UK from their own country, they are left with little choice but to make the journey and enter illegally.
It will be a very sad day when the UK loses its ability to be human to those in need.

Odd how almost every one of those people crossing from France every single day are men. If they're escaping danger, where are all their female relations? What does that absence of women tell you?

DuchessofStaffordshire · 16/02/2026 22:39

RosesAndHellebores · 16/02/2026 16:58

I am a conservative and have been since 1979. I regarded school mum friends as acquaintances and didn't overshare. The self righteous lefties would never have become more than acquaintances. Kindred spirits became my friends.

Good grief

Pineneedlesincarpet · 16/02/2026 22:46

dreamiesformolly · 16/02/2026 21:06

Ah, bless. 😂

Thank you. Bless you too. 😊

frothycoffee2 · 16/02/2026 22:47

Blogswife · 16/02/2026 22:27

I do the same . I’m not arrogant enough to think only my opinion matters ( to quote PP) but I don’t shove my beliefs down peoples’ throats and don’t want to be faced with vitriol & propaganda that offends me

This is what it boils down to. A difference of opinion is supporting Man Utd over Liverpool, or liking/not liking marmite. Harmless. But racism is a personality trait that doesn’t align with my morals. Why would I want to see that or associate with it?

NotAnotherScarf · 16/02/2026 22:47

Well I've unfriended corbin supporters in the past....so you do you

MsJinks · 16/02/2026 22:48

@Helen1625 I think we can safely say the majority are fleeing war zones or are at risk of persecution (a valid reason to claim) as the asylum acceptance rate is near 70% including appeals.
Further the majority of those in small boats are from Eritrea, Afghanistan, Somalia, Iran, Sudan, so quite obviously reasons to seek asylum.
As said 60 billionty times on similar threads there are women and children on boats but it also happens that it’s safer and more possible for men to get out than women from these countries so they go then send back for family if they manage to settle - though you’ll be glad to know leftie labour has stopped family reunion visas.

I don’t mind discussing immigration- I accept there are different views of course I do - I do however dislike bad information being used to promote or encourage hatred and perpetuate ignorance.

Happyjoe · 16/02/2026 22:48

Clavinova · 16/02/2026 22:29

But people arriving on boats went up after brexit

Huge increase in asylum applications in the EU as well;

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Asylum_applications_-_annual_statistics

France and the Republic of Ireland have both had their highest ever number of asylum seekers in the last few years.

However, look at Germany. Their numbers are going down despite having the highest for years, applications are going down and they are removing people faster than before with (some newer) different schemes, and partially aided by the Dublin Regulation and the database.

.....And yet you still ignore the whole point of my post to someone else.

KWaldron · 16/02/2026 22:48

Happyjoe · 16/02/2026 22:29

Lots and lots of presumptions! Wow! Any other make believe coming my way?

If the sexual assault and murder of women by illegal immigrants was "make believe", there would be no point to this thread.

Thank you for inadvertently answering my question. You are a man, of the lowest kind.

callmeLoretta1 · 16/02/2026 22:52

LoveSandbanks · 16/02/2026 21:33

At the moment ECHR protection can be ignored but we have recourse to the European Court to challenge this. When we lose that protection women's rights will be further eroded.

We need more people in this country either through immigration or through people having more children. Reform are stirring up huge amounts of anti immigration rhetoric and now are starting on the "improve the birth rate" rhetoric.

I don't really think that your points are valid to the original post. I'm generally in favour of trans rights but I don't want to change in front of a trans woman, and I definitely don't want to be seeing a trans woman change. Neither do I want a trans man in the women's changing room, quite frankly. But given the choice, I'd do that if it meant we kept our NHS. As distasteful as it seems I'd run naked through the streets if it meant we kept our NHS.

And before you come back with "the danger" of transgender people. I'm a late middle aged woman from a working class background. I've lost count of the times I've been sexually assaulted, with at least one experience being attempted rape. Not one of those men even attempted to hide their gender and pretended they were women. Men have been forcing their way into women's only spaces for millennia and have never needed to dress as women to do so. The real problem is men. The vast majority of sexual assaults and rapes are from people we know, people we thought were "safe". Not from transgender people.

The real problem is men.

Transwomen are men. Most in fact, are actually fully intact men. You seem to think 'transgender people' are a third sex or something. And the reason the vast majority of sexual assaults are from men we know, is because of ease of access. You allow more males to access female spaces, you widen up that access.

Happyjoe · 16/02/2026 22:54

KWaldron · 16/02/2026 22:37

Odd how almost every one of those people crossing from France every single day are men. If they're escaping danger, where are all their female relations? What does that absence of women tell you?

Last I heard it was about 20% women and 20% children so not nearly all men.
And men have taken the journey because it's dangerous, applied for asylum, then brought family over on family visas when granted asylum. That latter bit has stopped now, Labour have changed it and they no longer get a 'free pass', they have to apply like anyone else, earning a good wage etc.

So, did you think it was completely sinister that it's 'almost every one is men'?!!

cardibach · 16/02/2026 22:56

Winter2020 · 16/02/2026 18:32

You can't assume non voters didn't support it either. I would assume they didn't strongly give a shit either way else they would have voted.

And "polls" didn't predict Brexit because people aren't honest when they are met with aggression from the other side. I wouldn't be so sure.

I don’t need to assume it. 30% (give or take) voted for Brexit. If we assume non voters had no opinion at all it’s still not 50% who wanted it.

Happyjoe · 16/02/2026 22:57

Helen1625 · 16/02/2026 22:34

We did a fantastic job of helping the women and children fleeing Ukraine, we can be proud of that.

I think that with regards to the men in boats, first of all you would need to believe that they are fleeing a war torn country and I think we can safely say that the majority are not. Why do they hide their identities? Why do they toss their passports? Why not say 'this is who I am, this is where I am fleeing from, please help me.' We would. And why are we not seeing boats full of women and children? Where are they all? What kind of a man would leave his family and children in a war torn country? They are not even safely in the tents in France whilst the men take the perilous journey across the sea. They are nowhere to be seen. It doesn't add up.

You could argue, what man allows his baby and wife to be on a dangerously overfilled rubber dingy going over the water.

Clavinova · 16/02/2026 22:59

cardibach · 16/02/2026 18:15

Someone has already explained the difference between concern about immigration levels and racism, but could you explain how you came to the conclusion that the left have used mass immigration to impose a new identity on the country?

  1. Immigration increased massively under the Tories and is reducing under Labour
  2. What new identity? I don’t think I’ve noticed one.
Edited

I am reminded that Labour's 2019 general election manifesto proposed/pledged to give full voting rights to all UK residents - thereby pledging to expand the voting franchise to include literally millions of EU and non-EU residents in the UK.

Happyjoe · 16/02/2026 23:01

KWaldron · 16/02/2026 22:48

If the sexual assault and murder of women by illegal immigrants was "make believe", there would be no point to this thread.

Thank you for inadvertently answering my question. You are a man, of the lowest kind.

I have gone out of my way NOT to answer your question because you haven't asked anything relevant and you're not capable of understanding the written words in front of you. That was clear, instantly.

All you have done is made assumptions, twisted words to suit your (incorrect) idea of me to try and point score. It's so boring.

And no, am not a man, lowest kind or otherwise (thanks for further insults!!). You even assumed this wrong.

Hellohelga · 16/02/2026 23:04

Well done, I’d do the same.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 16/02/2026 23:12

I have friends with a wide range of different political views, but I couldn't ever be friends with anyone who I found morally reprehensible, so obviously supporters of Reform/Restore etc would be in the bin. They're entitled to hold their views, of course, but they're not the people I would want in my life.

Dollymylove · 16/02/2026 23:15

nondrinker1985 · 16/02/2026 21:17

he suggested migrants could be sent to “tented camps on a remote Scottish island” as a deterrent, but no particular island was identified in his comments.

Tented camps are good enough in France. The reason why so many illegals come to Britain is because they get hotels, 3 meals a day, private medical and dental care, free to roam anywhere they like.
No wonder the rest of the world are laughing at us. We need to start using the same model as Poland which is basically fuck off 😬

Helen1625 · 16/02/2026 23:16

MsJinks · 16/02/2026 22:48

@Helen1625 I think we can safely say the majority are fleeing war zones or are at risk of persecution (a valid reason to claim) as the asylum acceptance rate is near 70% including appeals.
Further the majority of those in small boats are from Eritrea, Afghanistan, Somalia, Iran, Sudan, so quite obviously reasons to seek asylum.
As said 60 billionty times on similar threads there are women and children on boats but it also happens that it’s safer and more possible for men to get out than women from these countries so they go then send back for family if they manage to settle - though you’ll be glad to know leftie labour has stopped family reunion visas.

I don’t mind discussing immigration- I accept there are different views of course I do - I do however dislike bad information being used to promote or encourage hatred and perpetuate ignorance.

It's widely known that lawyers and charities advise them what to say in order to get their claims accepted and it is also reported that claims are or were being pushed through just to get the backlog down.

And as for saying it 60 billionty times, you can say it another 60 billionty times, I just don't buy it.

And if Labour have stopped the family reunion visas, it'll be the only thing that they've achieved so far.

Hellohelga · 16/02/2026 23:18

SomersetBrie · 16/02/2026 18:00

You say she's Irish - was she born in the UK or emigrated here?
It's perfectly possible to be Irish and racist but the Irish could also be in the firing line once the repatriation starts.
I'm Irish and while it doesn't worry me as such that I will have to leave here (I don't think Reform will get in), it does worry a bit that Reform voters wouldn't care if I did have to leave.

Don’t worry, Reform won’t get in and if they did the Irish won’t have to leave. We have had a Common Travel Area since 1922. That won’t ever change.

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 16/02/2026 23:20

Helen1625 · 16/02/2026 22:12

Shouldn't we deport people who arrive illegally? I can't get back into this country without producing a passport and without going through security. Should migrants be treated differently?

Should families of grooming gang members who knew and said nothing, not face consequences? They are just as guilty. Just like if your child or your father committed a crime and you said nothing, you would be guilty too.

Pakistan have refused to take back their citizens who have committed crimes. Should there not be consequences?

There is a link between some immigrants and incidents of sexual violence. Would you prefer that we didn't talk about it?

There should be a deterrent for economic illegal migrants. At the moment, they think our streets are paved with gold and talk of them being moved into council housing and jumping waiting lists isn't helping, word is getting round and it makes them want to keep coming. It is OK to not want them to keep coming - how many is too many? We cannot afford it and we don't have the resources.

Yes, I’m struggling to see why op has a problem with that list. The tents comment is clearly making a point rather than a literal plan and the harassment allegations (oddly worded with the usual BBC spin) sound very iffy. More like a lack of manners than actual harassment. Other than that, all sounds sensible.

I imagine the unfriended will be heaving a sigh of relief.

Helen1625 · 16/02/2026 23:21

Happyjoe · 16/02/2026 22:57

You could argue, what man allows his baby and wife to be on a dangerously overfilled rubber dingy going over the water.

The kind that leaves his wife and children in a war torn country probably wouldn't care if they were on a dangerously overfilled dinghy.

MindYourUsage · 16/02/2026 23:22

WeepingAngelInTheTardis · 16/02/2026 17:53

This is why friends shouldn’t talk about politics!

Was it the Guiness company that wouldnt allow any talk of religion or politics at their places of work? Quite clever really.

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