Why are the 'But Palestine...' posters not very interested in Iran

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Was reading another thread and soneone made this point.

Is it because Hamas is funded by Iran and is the de facto government of Gaza?

But it's the greater 'speaking out' on this one issue that is strange, especially when there are issues like the Child Poverty Action Group or Women's charities here at home that we rarely hear about often, let alone protest for at Parliament Square or Downing Street.

I don’t know why you are asking me that when I haven’t said anything about supporting PA and where do I get that I don’t care about Iran?
Please dont make things up. My absolute last response to this nonsense.

You will find Sudanese flags at many Palestinian matches.

Criticism of Sudan etc is not shut down by governments or the legal system. Protesters are not arrested during peaceful protests, look at the footage from Sydney and Germany in the past weeks.

There are not loads of posters arguing that killing of Sudanese people is due to them "starting it" or disputing death figures etc.

What I would love to understand is why people aren't shouting from the rooftops about children being snipered in the head or burning in their tents no matter who they are?
Why are Palestinians the only ones whose deaths are justifiable or reduced to just seen as a reason to criticize Israel.

And finally this idea that anyone who is Pro Palestinian doesn't care about other conflicts is unsubstantiated rubbish. Posters on here have avoided the Iran threads due to posts like the OP's.

I agree with this. The biggest difference is not which religions are involved but that large numbers of people are not trying to justify or excuse what is happening in Iran or Sudan.

Plus, as a PP pointed out, protests in the West have little chance of affecting change in Sudan or Iran, but Israel is a Western ally.

Yes but people don't that's the point. People have explicitly said they cant support Iranians because Israel. See Misan Harriman for example.

Nonsense. Of course we can affect change in Iran. Start by proscribing the IRGC. Listen to what Iranians tell us. What makes you think we have so much control over what Israel does anyway?

Yes double standards

It's shocking.

Their actions are equally abhorrent. Yes, I find the mass killing of innocent civilians abhorrent, no matter who is doing the killing, who the victims are, or what the "justification" is.

So, gunning down one's own umarmed civilians in the streets is no worse than trying to avoid civilian deaths while trying to root out a terrorist organisation that has completely embedded itself within that population and which has carried out a devastating attack on one's own civilians and taken many captive to abuse, mistreat and use as bargaining chips?

Non-combatant deaths are inevitable during war, and Hamas knew this when they did what they did, and failed completely to protect their own civilians, in fact, put them in the firing line by tightly interweaving thier military installations (terror tunnels, arms dumps) with civilian infrastructure.

I know you're for real because I recognise your user name, but seriously.

Did you really not notice how angry a lot of us were about the post 9/11 attacks on the middle east? Or how people still refer to Blair as a war criminal?

Complete moral bankruptcy. Extraordinary.

Israel are not trying to avoid civilian deaths though. They have sought to wreak maximum casualties at every turn. They have double tapped hospitals, murdered paramedics, issued orders for people to move to "safe zones" and murdered them on the way.

I cannot even with this fucking bullshit anymore. How anyone with eyes and a conscience can look at a fucking genocide and make excuses for it is beyond my comprehension. Over the past 2.5 years I have completely lost faith in humanity. I am truly disgusted.

^This.

70,000 dead and 170,000 injured, from a military with one of the world's most elite intelligence forces, is not an accident. Nor is mass starvation.

I have no issue with the Jewish people or the Israeli people; I don't even blame the Israeli people who support the actions of their government, but what the Israeli government is doing in Palestine is genocide. There is no justification for genocide.

Chasing a Jewish man through the tube stations demanding to know if a keffiyeh upset him while filming it for social media.
Harassing Jews in the streets - or forcibly removing them "for their own safety"
Daubing swastikas on Jewish homes.
Desecrating Jewish memorials and graves.

Damaging Jewish businesses and breaking the windows of Jewish restaurants.
Bombing a synagogue.
Deliberately murdering Jews during Hannukah.

Can't think why any of that could be considered Jew hate when it's really just "caring".

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whataboutism

And your point is?

Noun: Usually presented when rancid hypocrisy is highlighted in order to deflect from uncomfortable questions/statements.

Example:
Israel is terrible, what those damned zionists are doing to those poor women and children in response to the targeted rape and murder of its youth is awful, from the river to the sea! Free Palestine!

"Iran has just murdered 36500 people, and has been brutally murdering women for not covering their heads appropriately, as an aside, Hamas treats women equally appallingly and uses children as either pipe bombs or human shields"

"THATS JUST WHATABOUTERY I CARE ABOUT WOMEN AND CHILDREN"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whataboutism

It’s right there in the link.

I think this entire thread is a masterclass in whatabout, whatabout, whataboutery.

I think people are allowed to have a cause.

I don’t think protesting A means you are duty bound to protest B - Z.

I think people are allowed to be more inspired to protest a regime supported by our government (and extension us) than one that is not.

And, to repeat, I think this thread is a masterclass in whataboutery.

Indeed. I marched along with about a million others.

Absolutely this. There are no Jews to blame in Iran.

I protested our decision to invade Iraq too (ditto Afghanistan).

I have not protested Russia invading Ukraine though so I guess I am simply anti-American / anti-British.

You're entitled to your opinion. I'm entitled to mine and I disagree with you.

Thanks for sharing.