People who park in child and parent spaces when they don't have kids.

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Does this annoy anyone else? I personally don't care about the distance from the shop but I need the room to get my kids out of the car. And when I say when they don't have kids I mean they don't have them with them or a disabled badge or anything. Where I am from it happens so regularly. It makes me so mad 🙈😂

Plus I think sometimes we think about p+c spaces as if they're for the parents but really they're for small children who are more at risk of being hit by a car while trying to navigate a car park. There's a safety element to it as well.

Yes, that is why they tend to be close to the doors... it is because the kids can leave the car and immediately be on the path away from moving cars.
A PP said that she would prefer it if the P&C spaces were further away, to prevent piss takers but still next to a path.

I really can’t stand it when people compare parent and child spaces to disabled spaces. They are not even a comparison!

You chose to breed, people do not choose to be disabled.

No it’s completely on YOU if you breed more kids than you can physically handle. It’s not a comparison to a physical disability.

What an ignorant person you are.

The car parking company can fine you. In my Tesco here and also one I use hundreds of miles away, there are warning signs, threatening a £60 fine for misuse of P+C spaces. I haven't had the opportunity to look at signs elsewhere since I noticed this but I imagine it must be Tesco-wide policy.

Mumsnet net is 25 years old. At this point, every situation has been discussed over and over.

This thread has become quite nasty about disabled people which was not my intention at time of post so I'm going to ask mumsnet to take it down. It was never my intention to suggest that disabled people were less important than mothers and I'm alarmed that someone on this thread felt the need to liken my post to Nazism.

Thank you to everyone else for your responses.

I mean it’s very easy to compare on a basic level that certain parking styles are designed for different things, disabled parking with wider access and close to the shop front, P&c parking with wider access and easier routes to walkways, parking spaces with charging points which are obviously only designed for electric cars who both need parking and charging etc
If people are considerate there’s really no issue with more than one group of society being catered too.

Theres really no need for your rude comments about breeding. Says a lot about your character ✌️

It makes me chuckle because these threads remind me of him. A full human being with good, and obviously bad, qualities. Yes he could be brazen and unrepentant in his petty selfishness. But he could also be generous with his time and efforts. He could be rude to me, but always took it with good grace when I was rude and funny back to him.
He even had sufficient wit to recognize the role his son played in the marriage ending and never made things worse during that time, making sure his grandkids were OK.

So not laughing at people who really need the spaces - something else.

Why do you need to get the car seat out with the baby?

It doesn’t make my blood boil haha, but it is annoying. I have never ever been able to park in those spaces, always full, most of the times they are massive cars without car seats (yes I’ve looked). It’s midly annoying, but I can never really tell who is actually parked there rightfully or not…

Getting a toddler out of a car seat, while managing a pram and bags etc. isn’t easy when another car is parked 15cm away from you and you can’t even open the door properly.

Or you’re having to run 100m through the rain with a toddler, cart, groceries, etc. because there’s no space elsewhere. Those spaces are designed for people with kids for a reason.

Our local shopping center enforces them too! You need to get a permit every year and if you aren’t displaying it while parking in a P&C space you get a fine.

Is that in the UK?

If the baby isn’t old enough to sit in a trolley seat it can make things much easier, they might not like the carrier, mum might not be able to wear one, they might still be asleep, can’t push a trolley and a pram at the same time.
Non walkers obviously need something to be in.

I’ve not seen permits like this in England but where we are the fines are given by the private car parking companies, I often see people on the local fb page complaining about getting them for parking in those spaces without a child.

I had my DC a number of years ago and supermarkets had baby seat trolleys then. Are they not a thing anymore?

Yes it’s at Meadowhall shopping center in Sheffield.

I get annoyed too, if I’m feeling brave I’ll call them out on it! I drive a crew can van and it’s tight in a normal space! A single chap in a work van pulled up next to me the other day!! I did call in out on it and after some swearing ( from him!) and huffing and puffing he did move!

People are just so selfish and rude, I am constantly amazed at how many people go through life not caring about others. All I can do is not be like them.

They can be used by Blue Badge holders if all the disbaled spaces are full, (obviously displaying said Blue Badge) I've done it a couple of times at my big Tescos