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Thestarsmayalign · 14/02/2026 13:54

I read this ( not daily mail!) on MN -is this actually a true / statistical prediction?
I can send the link to the thread that stated this .
I have never heard this before . I assume that this is not accurate at all .( also assume applying to uk) .

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cardibach · 15/02/2026 13:34

BlueJuniper94 · 15/02/2026 13:30

Very conservative non rainbow flag Christians

I’m not sure of the relevance of this. Not always true in any case.
By the way, you haven’t responded to my long post responding to your post about what has changed in British culture. Have you come across Spell Songs? Have you got any changes brought about by immigration/non-white people?

Edit: if you want a more static old style British culture, isn’t it better to have more conservative Christians? What is it you want? Change? Or no change?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 15/02/2026 13:36

nomas · 15/02/2026 13:30

What a load of shit. Gaza MPs? Could you be any more offensive?

Its not an offensive view to want religion kept out of politics

Im trying to argue in a rational way so just calling something "offensive" doesnt really help counter my argument.

bemoresloth · 15/02/2026 13:36

Somerford · 15/02/2026 13:24

Whichever one offers the most concessions when they go cap in hand to the imams and elders, which Labour and the Greens both did last week in Gorton and Denton

The Reform candidate is supported by a Britain First member in his campaign team if that is more your cup of tea

marcyhermit · 15/02/2026 13:36

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 15/02/2026 13:33

I think it’s imperative that we bring back morris dancing into the national curriculum. Preserve Englishness.
Ban all Americanisms too.
A dating site for red heads to breed together.
we can do this.

We should be banning any French or German influences on our language too!
Rename any Viking place names!
And what did the Romans ever do for us? Close the spas!

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 15/02/2026 13:36

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 15/02/2026 11:33

Which traditions do you think you will be forced to abandon?

This is always a difficult question to answer, partly because whatever I say, the response will be “so non English people can’t/wont do x ?” Or “I don’t like that so there’s no great loss” Or “why can’t you carry on doing x if you really want to, no one will be stopping you” when in reality there will be all sorts of structures barriers forming - re-direction of resources, social barriers, dilution of numbers making certain things impractical etc.

But I guess the simple answer is that many areas and groups have many traditions based on their location or social groups or whatever and if you fundamentally change the environment and people in which participation occurs, you lose the tradition and culture.

For specific examples, we see a two pronged attack on the traditional British. Defra’s recent report accusing the countryside of being ‘too white’, attacks British pubs for among other things, serving alcohol and insufficient halal products. (The government also seem oddly keen to decimate the hospitality industry- for reasons we can only speculate).

This report also suggested that there should be limits on dog walking. Many Muslims see dogs as being dirty and not as pets. Dog walkers in cities with a Muslim population have been harassed in the streets. Some councils are looking at introducing dog free areas. As a nation of animal lovers this will be a curtailment of a traditional freedom.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 15/02/2026 13:37

cardibach · 15/02/2026 13:34

I’m not sure of the relevance of this. Not always true in any case.
By the way, you haven’t responded to my long post responding to your post about what has changed in British culture. Have you come across Spell Songs? Have you got any changes brought about by immigration/non-white people?

Edit: if you want a more static old style British culture, isn’t it better to have more conservative Christians? What is it you want? Change? Or no change?

Edited

FGM?
Increased cousin marriage
Arranged marriage
Sharia courts

Not saying whether either of those are good or bad of course.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 15/02/2026 13:41

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 15/02/2026 13:36

This is always a difficult question to answer, partly because whatever I say, the response will be “so non English people can’t/wont do x ?” Or “I don’t like that so there’s no great loss” Or “why can’t you carry on doing x if you really want to, no one will be stopping you” when in reality there will be all sorts of structures barriers forming - re-direction of resources, social barriers, dilution of numbers making certain things impractical etc.

But I guess the simple answer is that many areas and groups have many traditions based on their location or social groups or whatever and if you fundamentally change the environment and people in which participation occurs, you lose the tradition and culture.

For specific examples, we see a two pronged attack on the traditional British. Defra’s recent report accusing the countryside of being ‘too white’, attacks British pubs for among other things, serving alcohol and insufficient halal products. (The government also seem oddly keen to decimate the hospitality industry- for reasons we can only speculate).

This report also suggested that there should be limits on dog walking. Many Muslims see dogs as being dirty and not as pets. Dog walkers in cities with a Muslim population have been harassed in the streets. Some councils are looking at introducing dog free areas. As a nation of animal lovers this will be a curtailment of a traditional freedom.

Not Muslim. And I don’t like dogs and would welcome dog free spaces. As would many others. See recent threads.

cardibach · 15/02/2026 13:41

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 15/02/2026 13:36

This is always a difficult question to answer, partly because whatever I say, the response will be “so non English people can’t/wont do x ?” Or “I don’t like that so there’s no great loss” Or “why can’t you carry on doing x if you really want to, no one will be stopping you” when in reality there will be all sorts of structures barriers forming - re-direction of resources, social barriers, dilution of numbers making certain things impractical etc.

But I guess the simple answer is that many areas and groups have many traditions based on their location or social groups or whatever and if you fundamentally change the environment and people in which participation occurs, you lose the tradition and culture.

For specific examples, we see a two pronged attack on the traditional British. Defra’s recent report accusing the countryside of being ‘too white’, attacks British pubs for among other things, serving alcohol and insufficient halal products. (The government also seem oddly keen to decimate the hospitality industry- for reasons we can only speculate).

This report also suggested that there should be limits on dog walking. Many Muslims see dogs as being dirty and not as pets. Dog walkers in cities with a Muslim population have been harassed in the streets. Some councils are looking at introducing dog free areas. As a nation of animal lovers this will be a curtailment of a traditional freedom.

Leaving aside that MN would suggest we aren’t, in fact, a nation of dog lovers ithink you are overstating the amuslim view of dogs. Sadiq Khan is a dog owner, for example. I walk dogs for a rescue and we have Muslim volunteers. When I’m out walking people who I can tell are Muslim by their dress are often interested in the dogs. The rescue is on the edge of an area with a high Muslim population, including a significant number of recent immigrants and refugees, and we have no problems. I recognise it is/has been a thing in the Muslim faith but it’s one of the more old fashioned ones I think - Islamic opinion shifts in the same way Christian opinion does.

marcyhermit · 15/02/2026 13:42

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 15/02/2026 13:36

This is always a difficult question to answer, partly because whatever I say, the response will be “so non English people can’t/wont do x ?” Or “I don’t like that so there’s no great loss” Or “why can’t you carry on doing x if you really want to, no one will be stopping you” when in reality there will be all sorts of structures barriers forming - re-direction of resources, social barriers, dilution of numbers making certain things impractical etc.

But I guess the simple answer is that many areas and groups have many traditions based on their location or social groups or whatever and if you fundamentally change the environment and people in which participation occurs, you lose the tradition and culture.

For specific examples, we see a two pronged attack on the traditional British. Defra’s recent report accusing the countryside of being ‘too white’, attacks British pubs for among other things, serving alcohol and insufficient halal products. (The government also seem oddly keen to decimate the hospitality industry- for reasons we can only speculate).

This report also suggested that there should be limits on dog walking. Many Muslims see dogs as being dirty and not as pets. Dog walkers in cities with a Muslim population have been harassed in the streets. Some councils are looking at introducing dog free areas. As a nation of animal lovers this will be a curtailment of a traditional freedom.

Pubs in the countryside are closing down left, right and centre - surely increasing the client base is going to preserve them?

nomas · 15/02/2026 13:42

Pineneedlesincarpet · 15/02/2026 13:36

Its not an offensive view to want religion kept out of politics

Im trying to argue in a rational way so just calling something "offensive" doesnt really help counter my argument.

So Muslims exercising democracy and voting is bringing in their religion into it?

What the fuck are you even saying, do you not realise how offensive you are?

Next you’ll be saying Muslims shouldn’t have the right to vote unless they’re been de-Muslimed. Genuinely what the fuck.

Stepintotheunknown · 15/02/2026 13:42

Oh well, mass disagreement is not going to be resolved on this thread. We will have to wait for the next election to see whether we continue down the current path or there is a massive detour.

Somerford · 15/02/2026 13:43

marcyhermit · 15/02/2026 13:32

Culture evolves, British culture and language has evolved for millennia.
I don't care what skin tone British people have because it doesn't hurt me in any way.

I'm fine with organic evolution. That's not the same as massive demographic replacement though is it.

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 15/02/2026 13:43

cardibach · 15/02/2026 13:17

How can it happen in ‘less than a generation’ when immigration is down?

NET migration is down but still extremely high. Emigration has increased.

BlueJuniper94 · 15/02/2026 13:43

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 15/02/2026 13:29

I'm not Christian. Neither are many white British people. Many of us celebrate Christmas as a cultural festival, and not as a religious event. Many black and brown British families celebrate Christmas in the same way.

If people want to carry on celebrating Christmas, what exactly do you think will get in the way of them doing so?

The same process that lead to the abandonment of other cultural celebrations.

pointythings · 15/02/2026 13:43

BlueJuniper94 · 15/02/2026 13:25

It won't be Christmas if there are no Christians

Oh come on - the catastrophising of the conspiracy theorists on this thread is something to behold.

Firstly, Christmas is the usurpation of a much older pagan winter festival.

Secondly, hordes of people celebrate Christmas without being Christian.

Thirdly, the 25th of December will still be Christmas Day, as it is all around the world.

Re my earlier post which you queried, what I meant to say is that everyone who moves to another country should learn the language if they are planning to settle long term. And that includes British so-called expats in the Mediterranean, and the likes of Richard Tice in Dubai. Care to bet whether that is happening? Because English exceptionalism is a powerful (and stupid) thing.

I'm an EU national living in the UK. My English is better than that of many 'indigenous' British people. And I speak three other languages fluently.

pointythings · 15/02/2026 13:43

BlueJuniper94 · 15/02/2026 13:43

The same process that lead to the abandonment of other cultural celebrations.

Which ones?

BlueJuniper94 · 15/02/2026 13:45

nomas · 15/02/2026 13:42

So Muslims exercising democracy and voting is bringing in their religion into it?

What the fuck are you even saying, do you not realise how offensive you are?

Next you’ll be saying Muslims shouldn’t have the right to vote unless they’re been de-Muslimed. Genuinely what the fuck.

Edited

What's the problem? Didnt you see the scene when Jess Phillips won her seat

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 15/02/2026 13:45

marcyhermit · 15/02/2026 13:36

We should be banning any French or German influences on our language too!
Rename any Viking place names!
And what did the Romans ever do for us? Close the spas!

Ah yes. Excellent point.
So we can’t use many of the words for meat as they’re either French or German.

On the list:
Morris dancing
May poles on every high street
Bell ringing
Someone please open an English restaurant. (I genuinely want this. I love English food)

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 15/02/2026 13:45

marcyhermit · 15/02/2026 13:42

Pubs in the countryside are closing down left, right and centre - surely increasing the client base is going to preserve them?

Telling pubs to stop serving alcohol and to serve non stun slaughtered food is not likely to increase their customer base. It will however alienate the traditional customers.

marcyhermit · 15/02/2026 13:45

BlueJuniper94 · 15/02/2026 13:43

The same process that lead to the abandonment of other cultural celebrations.

Which other cultural celebrations have gone?

I can't think of anything from my childhood that my children don't still do.

nomas · 15/02/2026 13:46

BlueJuniper94 · 15/02/2026 13:45

What's the problem? Didnt you see the scene when Jess Phillips won her seat

Whats the problem with what? Taking the vote away from Muslims? What the fuck are you saying?

cardibach · 15/02/2026 13:46

Pineneedlesincarpet · 15/02/2026 13:37

FGM?
Increased cousin marriage
Arranged marriage
Sharia courts

Not saying whether either of those are good or bad of course.

Sorry, not following. What are you saying about those things? How are they relevant to my post?
Cousin marriage is legal and quite common in the British upper classes 7 til recently. Arranged marriage isn’t common (and isn’t the same as force marriage, which is illegal here). FGM is illegal here, as is taking a child abroad for that purpose. Sharia law is a way of resolving disputes and takes no precedence over British law. Are you suggesting you are concerned about increased Muslim numbers, not about colour at all? And are you suggesting those practices are common amongst British Muslims?
Not sure what British customs you are concerned about still.

pointythings · 15/02/2026 13:47

Pineneedlesincarpet · 15/02/2026 13:37

FGM?
Increased cousin marriage
Arranged marriage
Sharia courts

Not saying whether either of those are good or bad of course.

FGM is already illegal and that isn't going to change.
You deal with cousin marriage through education.
Arranged marriage isn't a problem, only forced marriage is.
Sharia courts are not compulsory for anyone to use. Mind you, I think the UK could do with changing its laws on marriage to match those in my native Netherlands - where you can have all the religious ceremonies you want, but you aren't legally married without a registry office ceremony. Keeps things simple.

marcyhermit · 15/02/2026 13:48

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 15/02/2026 13:45

Telling pubs to stop serving alcohol and to serve non stun slaughtered food is not likely to increase their customer base. It will however alienate the traditional customers.

Increasing non-alcoholic options will appeal to a larger number of people.
The pubs that are surviving and thriving are the ones that have diversified and offer food and community events. There's one near me that does a baby group and crafts for kids.
The vast majority of halal meat is stunned by the way.

bemoresloth · 15/02/2026 13:50

Pineneedlesincarpet · 15/02/2026 13:36

Its not an offensive view to want religion kept out of politics

Im trying to argue in a rational way so just calling something "offensive" doesnt really help counter my argument.

Is there any party keeping religion out of politics?

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