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Whites are becoming the minority by 2056Whites- are becoming the minority by 2056

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Thestarsmayalign · 14/02/2026 13:54

I read this ( not daily mail!) on MN -is this actually a true / statistical prediction?
I can send the link to the thread that stated this .
I have never heard this before . I assume that this is not accurate at all .( also assume applying to uk) .

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cardibach · 14/02/2026 21:20

BlueJuniper94 · 14/02/2026 21:17

The differences are, I would argue, far smaller than many of the devolved nations would care to admit. I could live in Wales, Ireland or England very comfortably. We all speak English as a primary language.

I think if I moved to Bangladesh or Somalia or Afghanistan I would struggle hugely with the cultural differences.

And that’s the type of attitude peiple in the Welsh speaking areas of Wales hate. They can speak English - but why should they? It’s cultural arrogance. The same as thinking ‘white British’ culture is superior.

Poetnojo · 14/02/2026 21:22

SugarPuffSandwiches · 14/02/2026 21:19

Where has anyone said anything like that?!
Stop making shit up.
Your "basically" is doing a lot of heavy lifting and word twisting there.

Here you go then, with basically removed.
Like the ones here blatantly saying who gives a shit if white people are "replaced" and that white people deserve to be wiped out because you know colonialism? The vast majority of the posts on this tread are blatantly saying it doesn't matter if white people no longer exist in Britain. Those do sound very hateful I agree.

BlueJuniper94 · 14/02/2026 21:24

cardibach · 14/02/2026 21:20

And that’s the type of attitude peiple in the Welsh speaking areas of Wales hate. They can speak English - but why should they? It’s cultural arrogance. The same as thinking ‘white British’ culture is superior.

Yes and the Scots hate the English. And Rangers fans hate Celtic fans.

The vanity of small differences. Differences you can't name actually name. Just make vague allusions to.

SugarPuffSandwiches · 14/02/2026 21:25

Poetnojo · 14/02/2026 21:22

Here you go then, with basically removed.
Like the ones here blatantly saying who gives a shit if white people are "replaced" and that white people deserve to be wiped out because you know colonialism? The vast majority of the posts on this tread are blatantly saying it doesn't matter if white people no longer exist in Britain. Those do sound very hateful I agree.

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Where, has anyone blatantly said anything like that though?
You must just be being disegenous as surely no-one's that lacking in reading comprehension?
Although I'm happy to be proved wrong if you can show where someone's said anything like that.

Stepintotheunknown · 14/02/2026 21:27

If you visited China and Chinese were a minority would you not find it surprising. Not that China and indeed many countries allow that to happen.

Why can that thinking not apply to the UK. What is wrong with preserving traditions. You can be open to change but not want to become a minority in your ancestral homeland.

Wellthisisdifficult · 14/02/2026 21:28

cardibach · 14/02/2026 20:59

Wales has a different culture from England. A different language, used extensively in many areas as just one example of difference.
The same is true in Scotland.
NI has distinct cultural differences from the rest of the U.K.

ues and within those countries culture/traditions exist in different parts. But, there is also an overarching British culture, based on its political, economic, social and religious history.

For example, democracy, equality in law of religion, calendars and public national rituals based on Christianity. Sense of right and wrong.

We have progressed as a society based on certain shared values, hope and goals which m? In turn are based on our history, As a nation we generally love animals, dog ownership stands at 36% of households in the UK. Therefore, we are generally highly accepting of dogs in public places and recognise that dog ownership see them as valuable members of the family. In turn businesses are increasingly seeing the value of appealing to over 1/3 of the population. Another British love is the countryside and, as a nation we are known as countryside lovers, look at Covid when the rules relaxed and the rush to the countryside. We love our history and organisations like English Heritage and National Trust are very popular facilitating millions visiting historical sites.

We have shared ideas of manners of etiquette.

We see cows as food and producers of milk

We have ideals of justice

We don’t generally mutilate boys and girls genitalia
lots of different examples

Not every person agrees on each of these issues but overwhelmingly we do.

SugarPuffSandwiches · 14/02/2026 21:30

Stepintotheunknown · 14/02/2026 21:27

If you visited China and Chinese were a minority would you not find it surprising. Not that China and indeed many countries allow that to happen.

Why can that thinking not apply to the UK. What is wrong with preserving traditions. You can be open to change but not want to become a minority in your ancestral homeland.

I'm honestly trying to think what tradition has been taken away from us, or at danger of going?
That's usually the claptrap you hear "we're not even allowed to say the word Christmas anymore!" which is just utter nonsense.
What traditions are you worried about disappearing?

BlueJuniper94 · 14/02/2026 21:31

SugarPuffSandwiches · 14/02/2026 21:19

Where has anyone said anything like that?!
Stop making shit up.
Your "basically" is doing a lot of heavy lifting and word twisting there.

You must be reading a different thread... read page one. All the "so?" comments

TwoBagsOfCompost · 14/02/2026 21:32
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SOUND THE ALARM

Poetnojo · 14/02/2026 21:35

Even if it were true, what's the problem? Worried whites might get treated like we have treated everyone else down the centuries?

Lots of who cares, so what. Who gives a shit.
Lots more if you'd care to look

BlueJuniper94 · 14/02/2026 21:35

SugarPuffSandwiches · 14/02/2026 21:30

I'm honestly trying to think what tradition has been taken away from us, or at danger of going?
That's usually the claptrap you hear "we're not even allowed to say the word Christmas anymore!" which is just utter nonsense.
What traditions are you worried about disappearing?

We have lost so many already. We are like frogs slowly being boiled alive.

The thing is, you hate tradition, you see community and bonds of trust and mutual obligation as an unbearable burden, as oppression and you're glad to see the back of it.

cardibach · 14/02/2026 21:36

BlueJuniper94 · 14/02/2026 21:24

Yes and the Scots hate the English. And Rangers fans hate Celtic fans.

The vanity of small differences. Differences you can't name actually name. Just make vague allusions to.

I have actually named them. Language. The arts. Community.
We aren’t all English.
I said nothing about the Welsh hating the English. I said they hate the arrogant attitude that English is the ‘real’ language so they can ignore Welsh.
You don’t seem to be expressing the British values of tolerance and inclusivity particularly well.

cardibach · 14/02/2026 21:38

Wellthisisdifficult · 14/02/2026 21:28

ues and within those countries culture/traditions exist in different parts. But, there is also an overarching British culture, based on its political, economic, social and religious history.

For example, democracy, equality in law of religion, calendars and public national rituals based on Christianity. Sense of right and wrong.

We have progressed as a society based on certain shared values, hope and goals which m? In turn are based on our history, As a nation we generally love animals, dog ownership stands at 36% of households in the UK. Therefore, we are generally highly accepting of dogs in public places and recognise that dog ownership see them as valuable members of the family. In turn businesses are increasingly seeing the value of appealing to over 1/3 of the population. Another British love is the countryside and, as a nation we are known as countryside lovers, look at Covid when the rules relaxed and the rush to the countryside. We love our history and organisations like English Heritage and National Trust are very popular facilitating millions visiting historical sites.

We have shared ideas of manners of etiquette.

We see cows as food and producers of milk

We have ideals of justice

We don’t generally mutilate boys and girls genitalia
lots of different examples

Not every person agrees on each of these issues but overwhelmingly we do.

As do many, many different cultural groups. And yet others agree on the big ones. And people who move countries often embrace the new culture.

BlueJuniper94 · 14/02/2026 21:39

cardibach · 14/02/2026 21:36

I have actually named them. Language. The arts. Community.
We aren’t all English.
I said nothing about the Welsh hating the English. I said they hate the arrogant attitude that English is the ‘real’ language so they can ignore Welsh.
You don’t seem to be expressing the British values of tolerance and inclusivity particularly well.

Did you grow up with Welsh as a first language in your home?

Simplestars · 14/02/2026 21:39

What should be of concern is that poverty and the poor are becoming a majority.
Whilst the rich are getting richer.

Not the colour of one's skin but greed and lack of empathy for anyone else.

cardibach · 14/02/2026 21:40

BlueJuniper94 · 14/02/2026 21:35

We have lost so many already. We are like frogs slowly being boiled alive.

The thing is, you hate tradition, you see community and bonds of trust and mutual obligation as an unbearable burden, as oppression and you're glad to see the back of it.

Ypu said I couldn’t name cultural differences in the constituent countries of the U.K. when I had.
Now you are saying we’ve lost loads of traditions and culture without giving examples. Can you gove some examples? Otherwise this is nonsense.

Stepintotheunknown · 14/02/2026 21:40

Poetnojo · 14/02/2026 21:35

Even if it were true, what's the problem? Worried whites might get treated like we have treated everyone else down the centuries?

Lots of who cares, so what. Who gives a shit.
Lots more if you'd care to look

Can I ask what is your ancestral history?

cardibach · 14/02/2026 21:41

BlueJuniper94 · 14/02/2026 21:39

Did you grow up with Welsh as a first language in your home?

No, because I was born in England of a Welsh speaking father (who grew up speaking Welsh) and an English speaking mother. My daughter had a Welsh medium education and many of her friends grew up speaking Welsh in the home. Why?

Poetnojo · 14/02/2026 21:42

Stepintotheunknown · 14/02/2026 21:40

Can I ask what is your ancestral history?

Why would that matter to you?

SugarPuffSandwiches · 14/02/2026 21:42

BlueJuniper94 · 14/02/2026 21:31

You must be reading a different thread... read page one. All the "so?" comments

Which doesn't "blatantly" say white people deserve to be wiped out 'cos colonialism" or that they "don't give a shit if white people are replaced" at all.
Just saying "So?" when the title and OP was acting all worried at the thought of more non white people around.
Which I intend to agree with their "so?" -so what if there's more non white people, why see it as "being replaced?"
I see us all as people, and not others as threats just based on the colour of their skin. Which is what it boils down to, as they could be British going back generations but you/others don't see that as you just see black/brown and make blanket assumptions about them.

Stepintotheunknown · 14/02/2026 21:44

Poetnojo · 14/02/2026 21:42

Why would that matter to you?

I asked politely and you have no obligation to answer. Although you have responded defensively.

BlueJuniper94 · 14/02/2026 21:48

cardibach · 14/02/2026 21:41

No, because I was born in England of a Welsh speaking father (who grew up speaking Welsh) and an English speaking mother. My daughter had a Welsh medium education and many of her friends grew up speaking Welsh in the home. Why?

Most Gaelic speakers I know are adults (often English) who have taught themselves and go to Gaelic conversation groups, children who go to Gaelic medium education (and parents have no idea what they're saying) or people over 60. Nobody speaks it at home unless they're very very old. It's heavily subsided and on life support.

SugarPuffSandwiches · 14/02/2026 21:49

BlueJuniper94 · 14/02/2026 21:35

We have lost so many already. We are like frogs slowly being boiled alive.

The thing is, you hate tradition, you see community and bonds of trust and mutual obligation as an unbearable burden, as oppression and you're glad to see the back of it.

We have lost so many already
Like what? You've dodged the question and ramped up the hyperbole and emotive language. Are you hoping people won't think beyond your words and that they'll just be scared by them?
What traditions have we lost? You still haven't said but said "We've lost many."
You couldn't be more wrong about me hating tradition, I love British tradition.
I love going to the pantomime, Christmas is my favourite time of year, love seeing Morris dancing, maypole dancers, Punch and Judy shows, off the top of my head.

cardibach · 14/02/2026 21:52

BlueJuniper94 · 14/02/2026 21:48

Most Gaelic speakers I know are adults (often English) who have taught themselves and go to Gaelic conversation groups, children who go to Gaelic medium education (and parents have no idea what they're saying) or people over 60. Nobody speaks it at home unless they're very very old. It's heavily subsided and on life support.

From what I know (friends and visiting) I’m not sure that’s accurate. But I’m talking about Welsh. We have increasing numbers of speakers, partly due to people moving in who don’t take your attitude and learn and partly because of their children (like mine) having the opportunity to learn young, when it’s easier. It’s interesting you have gone on about how much we’ve lost of British culture, but minimised examples I gave of differences within Britain and now the only example you seem to have is Gaelic fading - and you seem quite gleeful about it, certainly dismissive as you were about Welsh culture.

echt · 14/02/2026 21:54

Thestarsmayalign · 14/02/2026 13:54

I read this ( not daily mail!) on MN -is this actually a true / statistical prediction?
I can send the link to the thread that stated this .
I have never heard this before . I assume that this is not accurate at all .( also assume applying to uk) .

So where's the link? And yes, I've read all your tedious, faux-naif, racist shite responses, just wondering where you dug them up from.

Yet another three-word poster starting a goady thread.

Bore off.

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