Scared of growing resentment towards people of colour

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Is anyone else scared there will be a war in the UK? Elon Musk seems to be encouraging it and Donald Trump supports far-right ideas, saying that European countries face civilisational erasure due to immigration. When you've got the rich and powerful like Sir Jim Ratcliffe saying that the UK has been colonised by immigrants, this just stokes people's anger even more against non-white immigrants. More and more white people are growing resentful of non-white people.

MN does love a good panic.

The site came into it's own at the start of COVID. And 99% of the predictions and fretting didn't come to pass.

The Brexit threads got quite unhinged.

When Ukraine was invaded, there was an imminent world war going to happen.

When the government started doing those mobile 'phone emergency alerts that was the signal that a war was already on the way and we were just being prepared for it. Despite the fact the mobile 'phone alerts had been planned for years and a few years in now have just been used to make people jump out of their skin being warned it might be a bit windy tomorrow.

Bird flu, swine flu, SARS, various poxes..there's been panic about them all.

the issue then comes down to- is London’s unique culture worth preserving or does it matter if that culture disappears and get a completely now one over time as long as it is thriving?

isn’t that where the difference of opinion comes from?

It's nothing to do with colour. It's the way people behave whatever colour they are.

Wow. Culture is fluid and everchanging. Your cultural heritage clearly didn't make an impact then, or wasn't worth saving. I am British as they come, but also immensely proud of my ethnic and cultural heritage. My forefathers' descendants are flying - owing in no small part to our cultural background. The UK should be utterly grateful.

I don’t know where the ‘wow’ comes from - we are allowed to disagree on topics without nasty patronising comments.

I am 100% British through and though and still am immensely proud of my heritage. But it’s not my culture as I didn’t grow up with it. It was my grandparent’s culture. I don’t have to live it to be proud of it, to be interested in it. If I wanted to live that culture I could go and live in that country to experience it and I’m sure it would be amazing. I don’t judge it as better or worse than my culture, just different.

and culture is ever changing but it is a slow process usually over centuries, not over 20-30 years. That is the issue the country finds itself in.

I don't think anyone claims these days that there hasn't been a huge problem with mostly Albanian men and some women seeking asylum here and committing crimes, many coming here with that sole intention.

A few years ago Suella Braverman got slated for saying it but it was very apparent what she said was true and the governments own crime and prison stats back it up.

And is why the current government have had to work with Albania to dramatically cut the number of people leaving there to try and come here on small boats and step up deportation of ones already here.

More and more white people are growing resentful of non-white people.

Please support your assertion with some hard data, thanks.

Starting scare mongering threads is hardly going to help

I don't care what colour people are but I don't like the influx of young men with no gainful employment and nothing much to lose who behave badly and get involved in criminal activity. We have enough of our own young men of this type, we don't want to take on more.

I think multiculturalism is great and it works really well in parts of London. However, immigration doesn't necessarily lead to multiculturalism or diversity. I worked in a school which was 98% Muslim Bangladeshi. It catered extremely well for that demographic. It was an outstanding school and not a faith school but I think other ethnicities tended to be a bit put off because their children would be rather isolated.

No, because the vast majority of people do not care enough about either sides arguments to go to war over it.
Only 57 percent of people could be bothered to even vote in the last election. Let alone start a war.

No they aren't.

And no they aren't.

Can't even drink 10 pints of lager and roam the streets with your shirt off chanting obscenities after your team loses at the footie any more without a certain demographic giving you dirty looks. It's cultural erasure I tell you.

Was this in the East End?

Go back 100 years and there was moral panic about that area being an Ashkenazi Jewish ghetto. Before that it was the damn Huguenots not integrating. Let's not forget the "yellow peril" in Limehouse, with Chinese immigrants all being accused of running opium dens and white slavery ("protect are wimmin" etc etc). In that era of course, parts of the West End were "no go" areas because they were full of feckless dirty Irish etc etc..

OK, perhaps you'd like to tell us how you think "our" culture is being erased then?

Have you visited Birmingham lately? I actually cried when I returned at Christmas. It has seen a massive demographic change in the last 25 years.

Why did you cry?

Because white men have huge respect for women, and never abuse them? You might want to reflect on the fact that since the 1920s, women’s rights and respect for them have improved exponentially, at the same time as immigration has increased. Perhaps look up correlation v causation.

And don’t bother with the “yeah but why import more” because you could get rid of every single brown or black personality in the U.K. and violence against women would still be the epidemic that it is now.

Ive noticed a big increase in this at work with patients ranting to me about immigrants etc I guess because Im white.
Im actually sick of it because my family is mixed race.
I shut them down straight away. Outside work too there seems to be growing intolerance.

I am quite honestly stunned by the ignorance in this post.

It’s one thing to not care about whites becoming an ethnic minority, or even to celebrate it, but it is wrong to gaslight others into thinking it’s not actually happening!!!

Try asking chat GPT questions like:

“list all the places where white people are a minority in the uk, using 2021 census data, and list the total populations of each of these areas”
(includes Birmingham and many other large areas. The 2021 census was before the Boriswave record levels of mass immigration so London was still 53% white.)

“how many primary school children in England are from an ethnic minority, use gov.uk sources only and provide the gov.uk links”(Answer, 38%)

The census in 2021. In London the % identifying as White British was about 37%. Leicester was 41%. England and Wales as a whole was about 75%.

A woman said to me the other day ‘there’s a lot of THEM about isnt there’ and I said ‘what, nurses?!’ and she didn’t talk to me for the whole sale (on checkout!)

Only about 15% of the world population is white. So, world-wide, we are already a minority. We always have been.

Also, roughly, the percentage of habitable land mass in the world, majority occupied by white "civilisations" is around 35%. This disparity is primarily due to colonisation of many countries by white people. So we are hogging land as well.

If people of the UK do not want "others" in their country, then perhaps, all the descendants of British colonists in other "white" countries should hand the lands back to the original owners, and all move back to the UK. Then this country would have a massive majority of white people.

You do realise that illegal immigration numbers are just a small fraction of total immigration dont you?

The huge mistake many white people are making is thinking that they will be protected, that having a far right political party in power will help them financially, will result in better public services, more affordable homes, a stronger economy, a booming job market.

It's more likely that it will bring authoritarianism, instability and put the majority in a weaker position.

Many Germans probably welcomed the clamp down on Jewish people. But they might not have supported it if they'd known the years of physical and economic devastation it would bring them.