Reform wants women barefoot and pregnant

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Reform candidate Matt Goodwin wants women to have children early in life and introduce extra taxes as punishment for anyone who chooses not to have children.

Misogyny in plain sight.

How long till they ban abortion too?

Women voting Reform may want to consider if they are turkeys voting for christmas.

He's a hateful individual too. We need a real alternative that people can get behind without ruining everyone's lives.

I agree with you.

Labour won the 24 GE simply as a function of a protest vote against the Tories. Ironic that Labour will be carried out in similar fashion.

What an abomination of a government this has been - utterly awful.

I haven't been able to find anything to verify the representation that this is a Reform policy. I'm not sure how Labour think this type of Guardian hyperbole plays out over the longer term for them with information now easily available.

I went to X and Reform's Matt Goodwin - has a true/false and this is more Labour desperation:

"I wrote a blog which summarised the ideas of Dr Paul Morland, a leading expert on demography. Paul set out many policy ideas to try and tackle our demographic crisis. We are not having enough children. I did not advocate specific policies but said we should debate all his ideas. The Left misrepresented this to make it appear I was personally demanding a specific policy. They are trying to mislead you."

https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2022699970759999716

https://manchestermill.co.uk/goodwins-gang-meet-the-reform-team-in-gorton-and-denton/

Thats useful. It does annoy me when people try and persuade people to their own way of thinking about politics by making things up. I thought the fact that the electorate was fed up of lies and spin was well known.

A large proportion of the Christian right also hold views counter to our current laws or customs. Using Anglican as a proxy for conservative Christian:

Almost half of Anglicans oppose same sex marriage
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/england-church-of-england-yougov-christian-b2026218.html

Anglicans are less likely to believe income disparity is an issue in Britain, or to be in favour of migration. Non practising Anglicans particularly so:

https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/research/2024/06/13/religion-counts-what-do-the-religious-think-about-key-election-issues

And the we all know about the issues with women in the Anglican Church.

I think Anglican attitudes to women and equality are about on a par with Muslims, which only tells me religion must be kept well out of politics and anyone using sky men as a political tool is to be avoided like the plague.

@PeppyCoralTiger Did Goodwin put up a link to the original blog? A link to the original would remove all doubt....otherwise it's a bit 'well he would say that, wouldn't he.'

Trouble is Labour are in hot water trying to align a comment made by someone in a campagin team to Reform policy or a particular candidate.

We have all seen the wall to wall news that Labour and their activists and also their "friends" are knee deep in convicted paedophiles. See any mainstream newspaper for further details.

Labour's desperation is really on full display and it's a bit sad that a lot of their trusted easy to win votes will move to Greens. I don't blame those voters in G&D moving to Greens or Reform for sure, I wouldn't vote for a party where the local MP had a whatsapp group with nasty comments about the constituents. Labour are consigned to history I'd say.

I am deeply concerned that the removal of the Human Rights Act, will be a threat to us all. Laws protect us. It is not certain rights I am concerned losing but the entirety. I think it is naive to trust a Government, any government I may add, to not abuse the removal of those rights. Expediency in attacking people Reform don’t like, is why they don’t want the Act. That’s obvious. That expediency of attack would soon be extended to other groups not deemed to be worthy. It would be naive to think they wouldn’t do this. Pastor Neimöller comes to mind. I have answered your fair question. May I ask if and why you want the Act removed?

What would that look like? Genuinely asking

Any government can change domestic legislation, which is what the Human Rights Act is. Your rights aren't protected from the government by the Human Rights Act if the government repeals it. It would simply go back to how it was before Blair. Which seemed to work.

Again, what rights are you particularly worried about losing?

Save me reading the thread to find this, please, it's so long now.

Who is talking about removing the Human Rights Act?

lol 24 with a 6 month old baby and an 8 year old here wonder if I’ll realise how I fucked up on my birthday 😂

It’s on the Reform website as a stated aim of theirs, as well as removing Equality and Inclusion.

What rights are you worried about losing?

I think its more relating to immigration and preventing people objecting to being deported if the state wants to deport you. So the HRA enshrines the ECHR in UK law which is what Reform and the Conservatives think is problematic. Are you worried about that in particular?

It’s on the Reform website as a stated aim of theirs, as well as removing Equality and Inclusion

So should we vote conservative next because Labour is doing a shit job?

Why should we be worried about abolishing the HRA and exiting the ECHR?... because if they come for THEM they'll come for YOU.

Everyone should watch this beautiful monologue:
https://youtube.com/shorts/O7fAxCjZnIU?si=bF6wV9CSKHPOV13y

The blog in question is paywalled but I signed up for a free trial so I could read myself. Screenshotted the relevant parts. He refers to Morland but his enthusiasm for these ideas is self evident. He doesn’t say they are Reform policy - how could he? - but it’s clear he views marriage and three or more children as a goal. Which is ironic when he himself hasn’t ‘achieved’ that. It’s also clear from the full blog posts that the birth rate per se is not the issue, it’s the birth rate of white people that concerns him.

what has the ECHR ever done for us?

This is not news.

Fact: Farage believes that maternity leave is currently overly generous.

Fact: Farage believes that the NHS should be privatised.

Fact: Farage is friends with US Conservatives like Trump and would be in his good books if he opened the door to US insurance companies making money from the NHS.

Trump is writing the playbook for what will happen here if Farage gets into power imo and scarily there’s a lot of people who will hand him the keys when they will be the ones shafted by the rich white men in power.

While I am deeply disappointed in some aspects of this Labour government I'm always amazed at the national amnesia that forgets the complete shitshow that went before and left the country in such an appalling state that Labour were basically handed a poisoned chalice.

The HRA allows citizens to uphold their rights against the state. In theory those rights could be written into alternative law but none of the actors who want to abolish the HRA are making noises about citizens having more rights, are they?

Are we the baddies?

Let’s think about a failing company, and now imagine that you take over. It’s in huge debt, workforce morale is at an all time low, loads of unauthorised absence and long term sick leave. The company doesn’t really make any products the market wants any more and it cut ties to its biggest market under a previous leadership.

Now fix it. I’ll give you 18 months.