To be stunned that there were more births in Nigeria in 2024 than the entirety of Europe and Russia combined?

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I knew the birth rate was declining in western societies but that figure sounds crazy.

@lazybone1because this post said over the coming decades.

I agree, but we know that the men of Gaza don’t consider women to be human. I doubt the women have a choice.

@EasternStandard I read it from now going forward because as I said countries are already trying to attract youngsters.

No wonder I keep getting those calls

Gaza barely has a functioning hospital. it's not going to have birth control. However saying the entire population should refrain from having children and have no right to family life or love because they are enduring a genocide is basically ethnic cleansing. It is a choice that Israel won't allow proper shelters into Gaza and give these kids a fighting chance. Also their deaths won't be tallied in Israels official figures for deaths they've caused.

Over time fewer will be needed but even now we’ve got a lot of young people out of work. That should be improved.

Over 10% of children in Nigeria never see their 5th birthday.

me too! I like that India’s graph looks exactly like the dome on the Taj Mahal

Some of these are fascinating - China’s graph does rather highlight what happens when the state artificially dicks around with things doesn’t it?

also - the Maldives one is really interesting - why such a massive male dominance in the younger age groups?

It is fascinating. India's TFR is now 1.98- thanks to the education of women, I think- and Nigeria's is 4.4.

Sad for all the women dealing with too many pregnancies. Cuts in aid affect contraception so will only make this worse.

I think there will be fewer office jobs but an increase in caring/ healthcare jobs as the population ages. I do wonder if AI / helper robots will ever become advanced enough to safely toilet/ bathe / dress an elderly frail person as I think that would be a game changer in terms of long term labour requirements.

We will be bringing back the immigrants again in another decade.

It is fascinating and means that the world will look very different in 40 years time than it does now. A much higher percentage of the world will be in Africa and the Middle East, much lower in Asia, Europe and America.

There is a lag between reducing infant mortality/improved medicine and family size adapting. That is why it is so important to improve women's education and women's rights at the same time as providing aid.

I suspect many Nigerian women would probably want to access contraception so they can control the size of their families.

Because parts of the world is being unhabitable, so they will want to move to countries that are. The population rise thise causes in England and most of Europe can't be sustained. It used to be a goal to get to the USA, that's been taken away, so people will look to Europe.

I wonder how things will go now there's a population shift towards the Muslim religion. Many Nigerians find it worrying. I mix within the Nigerian communities, but they are Yoruba and Catholic. Their families aren't faring well under the shift, lands have been stolen and women's rights are a constant fight.

Not surprised. Both religions will indoctrinate people that contraception is a sin.

Do you this is news to be welcomed?

Yes, there is plenty of evidence that actually women in the west would like to have more kids than they do. Not that they want to have 10, or even 5, but many would like two rather than one, or three rather than two.

But the costs and lack of support, and just lack of time, mean they don't.

So in a way we've chased short term financial productivity and sacrificed longer term economic viability

Do they? In the UK most Nigerian Christians don't have 4+ kids, they use contraception. it’s always been ’go forth and multiply’ but never heard anything anti-contraception for married couples.

I can’t speak for Muslim families but I don’t think the majority are churning them out either.

Do catholics these days still not use contraception? Only the very strict ones would follow that I imagine. MAP would still be forbidden by most religions.

They will in those countries, yes. I have relatives that have lived there. It's not just the general religion, is is the culture, the pastors, the society

It’s actually lowering in the Christian side but as a whole just like other countries in Africa as Angola , they are very high indeed .