Dewi Evans - there's something seriously wrong with him, right?

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I'm amazed this guy actually 'got the job'.

He's got a very chequered past. Accusing an innocent mother of having Munchausen's by Proxy, when in fact her child had Zollinger-Ellison syndrome, where tumors cause a build up of acid and painful peptic ulcers.

In July 1997, Evans attended a social services case conference and said there was nothing wrong with Bonnie but that her mother "has problems". Evans said the mother suffered from the syndrome "attention seeking by proxy"

The judge later described Dr. Evans' report in that case as "worthless" and accused him of "proffering an opinion that was better than his actual knowledge."

Evans's clinic and Social Services ensured that Linda and Bonnie were permanently separated; Bonnie was distraught, as was Linda. Due to her parents' efforts, Bonnie's illness was treated.

I find it slightly odd that this didn't automatically bar him from being the expert witness in the Lucy Letby case. And that it isn't talked about very much (I haven't seen it mentioned anyway).

There is something not right about him.

He seems like an opportunist. Dare I say narcissist.

You'd be surprised just how many "experts" there are that are completely unqualified and yet can ruin people's lives.

yes I’m surprised the police ran with him as an expert witness without checking him out . He contacted them to offer to ‘ take a look ‘ and it’s often said about criminals they insert themselves into the investigation yet he is doing the same . When he said the LL case was just his sort of case it sounds too glib now we know how serious it’s all become . Narcissist.

Yes - he certainly doesn’t have the best history and for a case of this prominence you’d think they would be careful not to put a foot wrong.

but this case has opened my eyes to the corruption that is rife everywhere, it’s deeply, deeply troubling.

Thank god for Mark McDonald

Cheshire police were looking for someone to go along with their narrative, and he offered his services. The whole thing is deeply unsettling.

I thought they came across terribly too. The way the female police officer was interviewing her was awful. They kept asking her if she didn't do it, to give an alternative reason why the babies died. I found that really bizarre. It's not her job to give them alternatives, only to defend herself. It was such a strange line of questioning.

Agree
There should be much better regulation of expert witnesses

Was he an expert witness? I met one who was an expert in false and implanted memories, and used to get men off child abuse charges. I told him about the impact of his work. That when I was SA as a child, the police told my mum to choose between getting me therapy or taking him to court, because you couldnt do both. And I explained that was because if a child has therapy then their case can be undermined by his 'implanted memory' theory. As I was in a very bad way she chose to get me therapy, and this guy walked free, with his name on a register but no prison time. He was genuinely surprised and horrified! It was like he'd never thought further than the end of his nose.

Also where has Ravi Jayaram fucked off to?

I know of one "expert witness" that has lied about their experience including papers, they give out false diagnoses because they're paid to by their employers. This person does not appear on any record of experts and harasses and lies about the patients they deal with. People have died under this person's care but they are still touted as an expert. The use of "expert witnesses" is very worrying as they're completely unregulated.

Not watched the Netflix documentary yet, will this weekend. Been following the case since she was first arrested and have always thought she was innocent.

This is awful. Sorry that happened to you.

Not sure I agree with this entirely. I think its a reasonsble question the officer asked.. Surely providing an 'alternative ' in which these babies could have died is defending herself somewhat.? If she provided an explanation (medical or otherwise) this would have to explored in detail and could actually cast doubt on the prosecutions findings?

Are you the same person who edited the Wiki with this same text where your source content hasn’t been validated? Or are you just copy pasting sections from Wiki with the ‘better sources needed’ banner - because they’re a personal website rather than mainstream media or scientific papers.

Either way - your vendetta against him isn’t going to yield results because he’s retired, and both her appeals were rejected. He was believable to a jury and ultimately their opinion is the only one that matters, given the depth and scale of evidence they reviewed. And you know the fact they were the jury. CCRC is last chance saloon and they will only consider significant new evidence or testimony not presented previously - they don’t care about the expert witnesses’ background if he was legally appointed. You’ll just have to wait for the CCRC decision, until then she’s going to be serving her whole life tariff. Everyone else’s life carries on except those who’s identity is now inexplicably tied to the fate of a convicted child killer. This is the beauty of the English justice system - it isn’t influenced by public opinion.

You think it's just one person with a vendetta

At the risk of pointing out the blindingly obvious, complex cases like this one are totally unsuited to jury trial - a system honed in the twelfth century. We need a single judge adjudicating on the evidence after listening to court appointed medical experts. In fact there could also be a role for AI in some cases - assimilating the evidence and suggesting what is most likely to have happened.

Agree with this, how is she supposed to know how they died if she didn't do it? She's a nurse, not a neonatal doctor, she's not there to diagnose problems. Also why were they surprised that she couldn't remember specific details when they were talking about events that had occured 3 years previously?

Yeah Dewi Evans is an absolute crook.

Are you him? 🤣

No, I didn't edit the Wikipedia page (lol). It's a well documented case. Someone just hasn't sourced it properly on wiki but the same info is out there. If you have an issue with me copying and pasting though that's fine, I cba to type up the same thing again. You can read the ruling from Lord Justice Jackson, if you like. It's a public record.

Thinking someone is a narcissist and questioning their bizarre behaviour is a bit different to having a Vendetta against them though. And, what results? I'm having a conversation not trying to get him reported to the GMC (as you said, he hasn't practiced in years....).

Total narcissist. I can’t believe he just phoned Cheshire police up and offered his services and they took him on. He’s so out of date he couldn’t identify key bits of common neonatal ward equipment when asked to do so.

a previous judge from an unconnected case wrote to the LL judge warning him about Evans and said he will tailor his opinion depending who’s paying him/what they want to hear ! If Cheshire police are paying him a vast amount of money of course he’s going to say what he knows the police want him to say. The system needs changing.

hes set up his own company offering his services as an expert witness. He needed a guilty verdict to maintain his reputation and income.

It feels like Sally Clark’s case all over again. Who remembers that statistic.

Yes poor woman.

I know, her story haunts me. I think of her a lot

He literally changed his mind about how one of the babies died after the trial and then tried to say it didn't matter!

The panel of experts have presented alternative reasons the babies died. These were complex reasons based their wide knowledge of science and neonatal medicine.

Given that the doctors on the unit seemed to be lacking in this knowlege, its hardly reasonable to expect a nurse to have greater knowledge and to produce credible scientific alternatives off the top of her head.

If she is innocent, how in the hell is she supposed to know any more than anybody else in the unit how they died. Does that make them all guilty?

If I hadnt killed somebody and was asked to present an alternative reason for a death I would be like "How the fuck could I possibly know that??"

Mcdonald is far worse-an absolute snake oil salesman.