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To ask you to explain SEND funding and bankrupt councils to me?

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Myanna · 05/02/2026 19:46

I've read a few articles like this one:

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2026/feb/05/send-costs-bankrupt-english-local-authorities

But I don't understand why the cost of funding SEND is so high that it's going to potentially/actually make most councils insolvent.

It's not like provision is generous or easy to get, from what I've read (I don't have a child who is supported).

Were these kids previously just not supported in any way by the state and was it left to families to cope as best they could?
Are these kids who previously wouldn't have survived, but now do because of better medical care and therefore need a lot of help?
Is this private equity running enterprises and charging huge amounts to local authorities?
Is it just inflation and the cost of employing people?

I really don't know much about this at all but I'm sure many on here do, so I'd really welcome your knowledge.

Rising Send costs will ‘bankrupt’ four in five English local authorities, leaders say

Councils call on ministers to write off special educational needs and disability deficits that are predicted to reach £14bn in 2028

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2026/feb/05/send-costs-bankrupt-english-local-authorities

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x2boys · 09/02/2026 11:21

nomas · 09/02/2026 10:49

I think there needs to be a threshold and many parents will need to take their of their own child instead of relying on school as a babysitter.

How does that work then🤔

SleeplessInWherever · 09/02/2026 11:23

x2boys · 09/02/2026 11:21

How does that work then🤔

It doesn’t, it relies on the premise that our kids don’t learn things at school, when we both know that they do!

@nomas Schools don’t “babysit” disabled children, they teach them things that are relevant to their development.

SilverandGreyStars · 09/02/2026 11:24

thetallfairy · 05/02/2026 22:45

Cost of locum Ep's seems to be 600 plus per day

Like how???

EPs are highly qualified professionals, like solicitors and barristers. People don’t expect their conveyancer or house surveyor to do the work for £150. Local authorities have cut back on salaried EPs, so locum EPs have to fill the gap.

Carlyscarrotcake · 09/02/2026 11:24

SleeplessInWherever · 09/02/2026 11:19

Yes, we will. But I’m not really sure what else people suggest we do with them that doesn’t cost money.

Some children will be a cost to the tax payer for their whole lives. Our son will be. He’ll never work, will require ongoing care, and will likely require some sort of supported living/residential package. He will never pay employment tax, because he’ll never be employed.

There isn’t a solution that makes him suddenly able to work, or makes him free to care for. The budget for SENd has to come from somewhere, because it’s a part of the welfare system that is a genuine necessity IMO.

Wouldn't any other welfare claimant say the same?

If we run out of money I think there would be severe cuts across the board. No one or any service would be exempt.

Avantiagain · 09/02/2026 11:27

"How does that work then🤔"

It means we keep them at home 24/7 and don't bother educating them.

Carlyscarrotcake · 09/02/2026 11:27

x2boys · 09/02/2026 11:21

How does that work then🤔

I would think the poster means exactly as she said. Parents taking care of their own children both in terms of time and financially. No additional help.

SleeplessInWherever · 09/02/2026 11:27

Carlyscarrotcake · 09/02/2026 11:24

Wouldn't any other welfare claimant say the same?

If we run out of money I think there would be severe cuts across the board. No one or any service would be exempt.

Do you have any ideas for how we don’t “run out of money,” or how to make disabled people not cost anything?

SilverandGreyStars · 09/02/2026 11:27

nomas · 09/02/2026 10:49

I think there needs to be a threshold and many parents will need to take their of their own child instead of relying on school as a babysitter.

That will result in huge numbers of parents becoming economically inactive and have a knock-on effect on the wider economy.

Avantiagain · 09/02/2026 11:29

It's have a go at the most vulnerable time again.

SilverandGreyStars · 09/02/2026 11:29

Carlyscarrotcake · 09/02/2026 11:24

Wouldn't any other welfare claimant say the same?

If we run out of money I think there would be severe cuts across the board. No one or any service would be exempt.

Where do we draw the line? Cancer patients? Elderly care?

x2boys · 09/02/2026 11:30

Avantiagain · 09/02/2026 11:29

It's have a go at the most vulnerable time again.

Yep its almost like its become a sport for some posters..

Bargepole45 · 09/02/2026 11:30

SilverandGreyStars · 09/02/2026 11:27

That will result in huge numbers of parents becoming economically inactive and have a knock-on effect on the wider economy.

Potentially, but in many cases the overall cost to the state will be less than the cost of expensive placements. I'm not saying that this means this is the best approach but just that most SEN parents are low rate tax payers and even those that aren't often aren't paying enough tax to cover the costs of their children's additional needs.

SleeplessInWherever · 09/02/2026 11:31

Avantiagain · 09/02/2026 11:29

It's have a go at the most vulnerable time again.

It’s actually really boring. It’s like ableist Groundhog Day.

They all say the same completely uninformed things and then disappear into whatever ignorant hole they came from.

SilverandGreyStars · 09/02/2026 11:33

Playingvideogames · 06/02/2026 20:38

Sorry but this is such a cop out answer. The fact you can’t answer suggests you know the direction of travel is only 1 way, but don’t want to admit it.

In the absence of yet another tax which would probably topple the government, it has to be cuts doesn’t it? And to do that they will have to strip their legal obligations, because they over promise and therefore under deliver. EHCPs will have to be advisory in all but a small number of cases, like 20% of the current number at most.

The current number is 5.4% and we were managing at 2.7%, so why reduce it to 1%? This whole cost-cutting exercise is going to cost the country far more in the long run, financially and emotionally.

Seelybe · 09/02/2026 11:34

@Myanna just to add to what others have said, in real terms on a 10 year comparison schools have less money to meet ever increasing needs and demands particularly since Covid. Society has changed but teachers training hasn't kept up and traditional approaches are less effective with many children. The only way schools can usually get more money to support SEN is via EHCPs, which are through the roof. And most LAs have not had effective strategic plans in place to develop a local continuum of provision to meet local needs. Basically a massive mess and catastrophic for LA budgets.

x2boys · 09/02/2026 11:35

Bargepole45 · 09/02/2026 11:30

Potentially, but in many cases the overall cost to the state will be less than the cost of expensive placements. I'm not saying that this means this is the best approach but just that most SEN parents are low rate tax payers and even those that aren't often aren't paying enough tax to cover the costs of their children's additional needs.

Neither are many single parents on benefits, prisoners
Pensioners who solely rely on state pension, s
But its always disabled children and their families who are seen as fair game for a good kicking.

Avantiagain · 09/02/2026 11:38

"It’s actually really boring. It’s like ableist Groundhog Day."

'They should bring back institutions ' will be up again soon. With them still not getting that institutions were got rid of because they were expensive.

Carlyscarrotcake · 09/02/2026 11:38

The only way to not run out of money is to introduce gradual cuts now or larger cuts imminently. The magic money tree is not infinite.

x2boys · 09/02/2026 11:38

SleeplessInWherever · 09/02/2026 11:31

It’s actually really boring. It’s like ableist Groundhog Day.

They all say the same completely uninformed things and then disappear into whatever ignorant hole they came from.

Ah but I do love a good DLA/ PIP thread where posters,always seem to know people who claim it with no evidence and theres absolutely nothing wrong with them and they also boast to all and sundry about it.

SleeplessInWherever · 09/02/2026 11:41

Carlyscarrotcake · 09/02/2026 11:38

The only way to not run out of money is to introduce gradual cuts now or larger cuts imminently. The magic money tree is not infinite.

Okay.

If we’re cutting disability benefit, I’m assuming you’ll be okay if we cut your state pension, or how much we put into your elderly care?

After all, the cuts will need to be widespread, and we could always just put you in an institution so nobody has to really care for you.

SilverandGreyStars · 09/02/2026 11:42

Playingvideogames · 07/02/2026 08:49

Ok so I started a thread to ask teaching staff what % of their mainstream schools are diagnosed ASD, ADHD or both.

The responses range from the very lowest (and a minority of responses) of around 10%. The vast majority say 20-60%.

Anyone saying this is a small minority and therefore there should be no issues meeting need are plain wrong. With these numbers, I doubt meeting need is even possible. This doesn’t include SEN schools.

5% of UK children have ADHD and 1.76% are autistic, so these estimates are not accurate.

SleeplessInWherever · 09/02/2026 11:43

x2boys · 09/02/2026 11:38

Ah but I do love a good DLA/ PIP thread where posters,always seem to know people who claim it with no evidence and theres absolutely nothing wrong with them and they also boast to all and sundry about it.

All those people getting full PIP for a broken eyelash when it’s just taken me since last April to get HRC & HRM for my very disabled child?

Yes. Totally believable. 😂

ExistingonCoffee · 09/02/2026 11:44

Not meeting needs of disabled CYP costs more in the long term.

For example:
It can be the difference between someone needing a residential placement as an adult or not. Or a secure placement or not.
It can be the difference between needing 2:1 (or more) support or 1:1 as an adult.
It can be the difference between needing full-time care or support for only part of the time.
It can be the difference between someone being eligible for CHC as an adult or not.
It can be the difference between someone being a long term hospital patient as an adult or not.
It can be the difference between someone being in contact with the justice system or not.
It can be the difference between someone being in employment or not.
Even at a smaller level, it can be the difference between someone being eligible for SMI disregard or not or a concessionary travel pass or not or hospital transport or not…

I think there needs to be a threshold and many parents will need to take their of their own child instead of relying on school as a babysitter.

Do you think this of all parents/children or only those with SEN? Why do you think some DC aren’t entitled to an education? Why do you see education as babysitting? Do you realise it would increase other costs such as more parents pursuing support via social care and children’s continuing care funding/adult CHC funding, increased NHS costs and more parents reaching carer burnout?

SilverandGreyStars · 09/02/2026 11:45

Fearfulsaints · 07/02/2026 10:12

I think something very strange is going on.

The BMA did a report on diagnosis of autism specifcally in 2024 and they had that 1 in 100 school children with a diagnosis. They thought it should be 1 in 57.

My understanding is the rate is higher in younger year groups but the latest stats still seem to be under 3.4% of school children with a diagnosis.

Yet anecdotally schools are reporting much bigger percentages of diagnosed children. And not just on your thread.

Why is there such a mismatch between gp records and school experience.

Adhd, they estimate 5% of children should have a diagnosis but havent. I cant find an actual diagnosis figure but stats saying prevelance is 5% and there is underdiagnosis. So the two combined should sit at under 10%.

The national average for sen is 20% which isnt just asd/adhd? Why arent schools recording this properly on the census returns. Its a legal requirement. They last update has have the late primary group as the biggest group on sen support and ehcp and that hits 22%.

I cant work out why anecdotally its so high, but records dont reflect that. It must be very uneven across the country and school to school. Perhaps those struggling are the most likely to speak up.

It’s probably because many of these children are on NHS waiting lists of up to four years. Teachers can’t wait for formal diagnoses before making reasonable adjustments.

x2boys · 09/02/2026 11:45

SleeplessInWherever · 09/02/2026 11:43

All those people getting full PIP for a broken eyelash when it’s just taken me since last April to get HRC & HRM for my very disabled child?

Yes. Totally believable. 😂

Yep i had to go to Tribunal for it with realms of evidence

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