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To ask you to explain SEND funding and bankrupt councils to me?

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Myanna · 05/02/2026 19:46

I've read a few articles like this one:

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2026/feb/05/send-costs-bankrupt-english-local-authorities

But I don't understand why the cost of funding SEND is so high that it's going to potentially/actually make most councils insolvent.

It's not like provision is generous or easy to get, from what I've read (I don't have a child who is supported).

Were these kids previously just not supported in any way by the state and was it left to families to cope as best they could?
Are these kids who previously wouldn't have survived, but now do because of better medical care and therefore need a lot of help?
Is this private equity running enterprises and charging huge amounts to local authorities?
Is it just inflation and the cost of employing people?

I really don't know much about this at all but I'm sure many on here do, so I'd really welcome your knowledge.

Rising Send costs will ‘bankrupt’ four in five English local authorities, leaders say

Councils call on ministers to write off special educational needs and disability deficits that are predicted to reach £14bn in 2028

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2026/feb/05/send-costs-bankrupt-english-local-authorities

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BestZebbie · 06/02/2026 17:49

LA funding is also very inefficient - for example denying EHCP then losing expensive tribunals whilst the delay increases the child’s needs. Also denying EOTAS as a matter of course (as they’d rather force people to home educate which is free to them) - we had a 12k EHCP which provided very little additional support but they’d rather service that than eg: an 8k EOTAS full online school package.

suburburban · 06/02/2026 17:50

x2boys · 06/02/2026 16:08

And thats where' they will go if its found to meet their needs.

Perhaps the provision needs to be adequate rather than an expensive private school that everyone else would have to pay for themselves

i think if she wants the expensive PS she should part fund it herself to make up the difference in cost to the council

ExistingonCoffee · 06/02/2026 17:53

patooties · 06/02/2026 16:29

You are correct - but she’s fighting it - £1m for two children a year. 😭

No-one gets placements costing £1m for 2 places just because that is what they want. They don’t get it if such high cost placements aren’t actually required.

Needlenardlenoo · 06/02/2026 17:53

Mumofsend · 06/02/2026 17:22

Refusal to assess appeals are nearly always held on the papers with no hearing and no barristers.

In our LA only 1 in 8 parents will challenge a refusal to assess, and of those only 25% will go to tribunal after mediation.

That's awful @MuddlingThrough1724, both your experience and what @Mumofsend says about 1 in 8. No-one does an EHCNA lightly so that is 7 out of 8 families potentially with a child who's really struggling (and then more at the refuse to issue stage) who gave up on what they were entitled to legally for their child.

We paid over £100k for private school plus thousands on assessments and therapies so while we were incredibly lucky and privileged to be able to do that, I'm afraid I consider that the LA saved a lot of money considering the EHCP my DC has for secondary costs a tiny fraction of that (and they don't do most of what it says they should anyway). But sometimes if you can get them through those primary years secondary is better as they have more strategies.

I have never put in so much work in my life at anything as I did to try to protect her from the year 6 to 7 transition going wrong.

ExistingonCoffee · 06/02/2026 17:55

suburburban · 06/02/2026 17:46

I know

Does she pay for the legal costs out of her own pocket I wonder

Submitting an appeal doesn’t cost parents/YP anything.

Most don’t have representation. Legal aid, or rather legal help for appeal to SENDIST, is available to those parents (or for older DC, the young person themselves) who meet the eligibility criteria. Many aren’t eligible for legal aid. Even if they are it doesn’t cover representation at hearings. Exceptional case funding can be requested but the vast majority still don’t get it for representation at hearings.

No, parents aren’t responsible for LA costs. Rightly since LAs spend extortionate amounts of money defending indefensible cases against unrepresented parents when they know they are going to lose (or even concede at the last moment).

ExistingonCoffee · 06/02/2026 17:56

BestZebbie · 06/02/2026 17:49

LA funding is also very inefficient - for example denying EHCP then losing expensive tribunals whilst the delay increases the child’s needs. Also denying EOTAS as a matter of course (as they’d rather force people to home educate which is free to them) - we had a 12k EHCP which provided very little additional support but they’d rather service that than eg: an 8k EOTAS full online school package.

A proper EOTAS/EOTIS package would be far more than £8k and would include far more than online schooling.

ArtificialStupidity · 06/02/2026 18:00

Needlenardlenoo · 06/02/2026 17:34

Language does matter though.

Do you not see what the government are doing: scapegoating a vulnerable group?

Do any disturbing parallels from history not occur to you?

Oh stop it!
We've got to be able to have conversations about proportionality in how money is spent without defending to dramatic manipulations like that

As a country we simply don't have the finances to not make difficult decisions about how money is spent. Unfortunately if there isn't some balance in it then inevitably resentment builds. Other public services are crumbling while some children are getting a quarter of a million pounds plus spent on their education each year.

It's not sustainable and we need to be able to talk about it. And our politicians and councils need to feel able to make the difficult decisions to balance the books

Needlenardlenoo · 06/02/2026 18:04

Shinyandnew1 · 06/02/2026 13:32

Could the money just be written off by the government to fudge the issue?

Yes of course it could.

The UK may seem like a bin fire at the moment but SEND spending is actually pretty small as a proportion of the education budget, never mind the overall government budget and the money markets are more than willing to lend to the UK government (I mean, look at some of the alternatives!)

The Guardian used to do some terrific display statistics and I used to show my students the gigantic Jupiter of money used to bail out the banks post financial crisis and the teeny little Juno (moon) sized "schools" blob.

Needlenardlenoo · 06/02/2026 18:09

ArtificialStupidity · 06/02/2026 18:00

Oh stop it!
We've got to be able to have conversations about proportionality in how money is spent without defending to dramatic manipulations like that

As a country we simply don't have the finances to not make difficult decisions about how money is spent. Unfortunately if there isn't some balance in it then inevitably resentment builds. Other public services are crumbling while some children are getting a quarter of a million pounds plus spent on their education each year.

It's not sustainable and we need to be able to talk about it. And our politicians and councils need to feel able to make the difficult decisions to balance the books

I'm happy to have a conversation but let's not stoop to using the kind of dehumanising language that some of the politicians and newspapers are using.

It is difficult enough being a SEND parent without the regular implication that one's children are burdens on the state and not worthy of education.

This is a site for parents.

Many parents (mostly mums) have lost their jobs because of the failures of the education system.

Because my child's needs are met, I am able to continue to work as a secondary school teacher.

Although I will probably retire if the government are genuinely going to push teachers into assessing SEND needs of students.

Lucelulu · 06/02/2026 18:13

Needlenardlenoo · 06/02/2026 18:04

Yes of course it could.

The UK may seem like a bin fire at the moment but SEND spending is actually pretty small as a proportion of the education budget, never mind the overall government budget and the money markets are more than willing to lend to the UK government (I mean, look at some of the alternatives!)

The Guardian used to do some terrific display statistics and I used to show my students the gigantic Jupiter of money used to bail out the banks post financial crisis and the teeny little Juno (moon) sized "schools" blob.

a crude look at available figures suggests that it forms around 9% of total government expenditure - but maybe you have some more exact figures.
That does seem a pretty significant proportion

NattyKnitter116 · 06/02/2026 18:37

Hiphipholiday · 06/02/2026 11:03

Some posters have touched on the age shift the other way to 25. That’s a massive change in funding obligations.
In past with more manual jobs some children would have been able to get work. Uncle could get you taken on at factory week you were 15, no forms to fill in and then pack boxes or production line work. I did factory work in 90s as a student and there were ladies who had been there years who couldn’t read and write and clearly had Sen but were able to work a production line.
There used to be a company called Remploy that had a big factory near us employing people with disabilities building furniture and all support facilities eg canteen, offices. My friend who had a physical disability worked there from leaving school until it closed down.

Remploy was largely govt funded I think. Last of those were closed during austerity drive circa 2010.
plus that type of production line is vanishingly rare nowadays and the employment environment isn’t exactly disability friendly. With Access To Work being slashed it’s about to get a lot harder.

Shinyandnew1 · 06/02/2026 18:45

So what happens when it comes to SEND strategy in other countries?

What does inclusion look like? Transport? Travel to school? Special/mainstream? Costs?

Hiphipholiday · 06/02/2026 18:51

NattyKnitter116 · 06/02/2026 18:37

Remploy was largely govt funded I think. Last of those were closed during austerity drive circa 2010.
plus that type of production line is vanishingly rare nowadays and the employment environment isn’t exactly disability friendly. With Access To Work being slashed it’s about to get a lot harder.

Yes the one my friend worked at was closed earlier than that. She was a secretary it wasn’t all factory work and struggled after to find suitable employment but did eventually in public sector before she died. Point was there did used to be things like this that just don’t exist anymore.

Playingvideogames · 06/02/2026 19:04

Cr055ing · 06/02/2026 17:13

No the evidence does not support it at all. Autism and ADHD are under diagnosed and under supported in this country. Autism rates are 1.7% ADHD 3-4%.

Autism and ADHD diagnoses do not give you SEND provision - need does.

Then the statisticians should resign in disgrace as we all know FAR MORE than 1% of children are diagnosed with autism.

Far, far more.

4 in my child’s class, I see many many other children wearing ear defenders in the playground, a boy down the road from us gets into a SEN taxi with ear defenders every day (presumably autistic), our niece is diagnosed autistic, my friend’s son is currently being assessed, and I know of at least 3 other children socially.

So that’s what, only counting the ones I actually know, 10 children. And if that’s 1% then I should know 1000 children but I really don’t. I would say it’s at least 5% and probably more like 10% by the time the current waiting lists are worked through. Maybe 15.

Leftrightmiddle · 06/02/2026 19:09

Bargepole45 · 06/02/2026 12:28

You write as though SEN children are some binary and homogenous group of children. That's part of the problem with threads like these. Parents of children with high needs outlining obvious cases where SEN support is needed and then implying that everyone else is in a similar situation. We all know this simply isn't the case. As I always say on threads like this, disabled and SEN covers a child that smears feaces and Elon Musk as a child. What works for one won't work for another. It's also totally possible that support can be withdrawn from the lower end of the scale without impacting the more profoundly impacted.

Accessibility is vague and subjective notion. Is mainstream school totally accessible to even the majority of people? I would argue it isn't. Over half of Gen Z identify as ND and whilst we can debate whether they are or aren't, the point is their own perception points to some element of struggle and difficulty. 25% of children develop a chronic illness by the time that they're 16. This isn't even going into physical disabilities.

My point is that education is inherently expensive and the only way we can afford to educate our young people is to make it a system that is delivered en masse and without too much individualisation. It is a fallacy to assume that this kind of system can work for all or even most children. The world isn't black and white and most children and people exist in the grey when it comes to health and ND traits etc. With a limited pot of money we can either share it evenly amongst lots of people that are struggling or allocate more to those with the most profound difficulties. What we can't do is everything. I think we have to accept to some extent that barriers will exist for lots of children in the educational system and that's the price we pay for universal provision.

Maybe we should just stop free education for every child.

Cr055ing · 06/02/2026 19:11

Playingvideogames · 06/02/2026 19:04

Then the statisticians should resign in disgrace as we all know FAR MORE than 1% of children are diagnosed with autism.

Far, far more.

4 in my child’s class, I see many many other children wearing ear defenders in the playground, a boy down the road from us gets into a SEN taxi with ear defenders every day (presumably autistic), our niece is diagnosed autistic, my friend’s son is currently being assessed, and I know of at least 3 other children socially.

So that’s what, only counting the ones I actually know, 10 children. And if that’s 1% then I should know 1000 children but I really don’t. I would say it’s at least 5% and probably more like 10% by the time the current waiting lists are worked through. Maybe 15.

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OMG the ignorance. You do realise wearing ear defenders does not an autism diagnosis make and how many autistic children in your child’s class does not speak for stats in every class.

Who the hell are you to got round counting children and how on earth do you know personal private details of children in your child’s class?

Autism and ADHD are under diagnosed and under supported in this country and SEND provision is based on need not diagnoses anyway.

Leftrightmiddle · 06/02/2026 19:14

Kirbert2 · 06/02/2026 13:34

Unless you home educate or send your child to private school, doesn't everyone rely on the state to educate their child?

That's all I want. But if his EHCP is taken away, he won't be able to access mainstream education any more and it will absolutely cost more money to educate him with what the law currently says about children and full time state education.

They want to force parents to home educate children that cost them more

Needlenardlenoo · 06/02/2026 19:14

Lucelulu · 06/02/2026 18:13

a crude look at available figures suggests that it forms around 9% of total government expenditure - but maybe you have some more exact figures.
That does seem a pretty significant proportion

There is no way SEND spending is 9% of national government spending. Education funding in total could be that figure, possibly (although the peculiar way the UK government funds university distorts the picture).

It may be 9% of local government spending?

I suppose the local authorities are scapegoats too in a way although it's hard to sympathise given their competency and behaviour (and is some cases - Kent County Council for instance) defamatory public statements about SEND children and their parents.

Obeseandashamed · 06/02/2026 19:14

Private companies own the schools and due to shortages they charge LA’s a fortune!

Playingvideogames · 06/02/2026 19:16

Cr055ing · 06/02/2026 19:11

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OMG the ignorance. You do realise wearing ear defenders does not an autism diagnosis make and how many autistic children in your child’s class does not speak for stats in every class.

Who the hell are you to got round counting children and how on earth do you know personal private details of children in your child’s class?

Autism and ADHD are under diagnosed and under supported in this country and SEND provision is based on need not diagnoses anyway.

If they’re under diagnosed then I truly think at least half of kids will end up with a diagnosis, and if it’s ‘under supported’ then our country will basically operate as one huge support system for the neurodiverse. Such is the reach this has in the last 10 years alone.

My experience is not at all unusual. My child moved schools, it was the same at the last place.

Every other poster on here has a child with autism or ADHD and that is not an exaggeration.

Playingvideogames · 06/02/2026 19:17

Needlenardlenoo · 06/02/2026 19:14

There is no way SEND spending is 9% of national government spending. Education funding in total could be that figure, possibly (although the peculiar way the UK government funds university distorts the picture).

It may be 9% of local government spending?

I suppose the local authorities are scapegoats too in a way although it's hard to sympathise given their competency and behaviour (and is some cases - Kent County Council for instance) defamatory public statements about SEND children and their parents.

In some areas it’s 30% of local spending. It is far too high - council tax is basically just becoming a social care tax, people won’t pay it if it carries on.

Cr055ing · 06/02/2026 19:18

Playingvideogames · 06/02/2026 19:16

If they’re under diagnosed then I truly think at least half of kids will end up with a diagnosis, and if it’s ‘under supported’ then our country will basically operate as one huge support system for the neurodiverse. Such is the reach this has in the last 10 years alone.

My experience is not at all unusual. My child moved schools, it was the same at the last place.

Every other poster on here has a child with autism or ADHD and that is not an exaggeration.

Don’t be so utterly ridiculous the bar is high to get an autism diagnosis,traits need to significantly impact life. You really are talking nonsense.

Needlenardlenoo · 06/02/2026 19:19

Leftrightmiddle · 06/02/2026 19:14

They want to force parents to home educate children that cost them more

While at the same time pushing through the Schools' and Wellbeing Bill that will make it harder to home educate!

And with labour shortages in all sorts of sectors so we as a nation could really do with parents able to work not stuck at home muddling through KS3 Maths.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

Playingvideogames · 06/02/2026 19:20

Cr055ing · 06/02/2026 19:18

Don’t be so utterly ridiculous the bar is high to get an autism diagnosis,traits need to significantly impact life. You really are talking nonsense.

It doesn’t matter how high the bar is, the fact is many many children are reaching it. Ask any teacher how many autistic children are in their (mainstream) class, they’ll all tell you at least 2 and more like 3/4/5

suburburban · 06/02/2026 19:20

Cr055ing · 06/02/2026 19:11

😆

OMG the ignorance. You do realise wearing ear defenders does not an autism diagnosis make and how many autistic children in your child’s class does not speak for stats in every class.

Who the hell are you to got round counting children and how on earth do you know personal private details of children in your child’s class?

Autism and ADHD are under diagnosed and under supported in this country and SEND provision is based on need not diagnoses anyway.

I think autism and ADHd are reasonably well supported in the UK and many have EHCPs

my autistic dn lives abroad and there is no state SEN provision so his education is provided paying school fees

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