Is this just getting ridiculous! UNIVERSAL CREDIT

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So had a review with UC today phone call she stated she would up date the journal with what I need to provide.
A full length photo of myself standing outside my front door with the key in the lock!?
Then a letter from the children's school & nursery saying they attend there
A letter from the children's gp
Passport photos
Child benefit award letter
Birth certificates (they have had birth certificates before )

This isn't a new claim either I dont understand why gp letters are needed they want one for me and my partner too.

Also on the phone call asked who I use for my gas and electricity
Ive never been asked these things before seems strange to ask?
Anyone else had a review lately what did they ask for.

Partner works full time if that matters.

Lazy non tax payer shit wasn't a direct quote, but your assumption that UC claimants don't work/ pay tax implies it. The unpaid training days are on top of a full time job. I'm not talking about a "day off" from unemployment ffs.

The point about paperwork expiring might be relevant, if they weren't asking for a birth certificate. But, for the 3rd (?) time now, I accept that they have to see it. And so will dutifully take it in to be seen. Luckily I dont have to be at work at that time !

They're still paying tax, and most people on UC work!

I love that people are replying to my comments on this thread about things I haven’t even said! 😂
I am perfectly aware of what UC is thank you and what it replaced. I haven’t even mentioned job seekers allowance! I also know that it’s based on capability for work and that people with disabilities and certain caring commitments don’t have the same expectations as those who are able to work.

You do realise UC is also claimed by millions of people who DO work?

You’re absolutely correct. Thats a huge saving for the taxpayer if we stopped housing benefit.
People should pay their own rent and the market will settle to affordable levels as landlords will only be able to charge what people can afford to pay from their own wages.

They're random. After 6 months on UC everyone can be reviewed, and then they happen every 6 months.

Proof of address is established when the claim is first started. So no need for proof of housing at all if the person isn't claiming for rent.

This is crazy. For starters, I’m unsure how this proves anything at all- how would they know what your door looks like? Not everyone even has a number on their door but beside the by, it could be anyone’s door!

Secondly, AI exists, people can easily alter images and make them appear real. Sheer insanity.

I don't think it was enough of a pay out. Looks like they want to see two months clear of zero wage. Which is fun when you need to pay the rent.

So you’re putting words into my mouth now! To be honest it sounds as if you’re the one who has an issue with claiming. I don’t see anyone on here judging you, if you hold those assumptions about yourself then that’s your issue.

😂 It is a fact that lots of UC claimants don't work and don’t pay tax, to suggest otherwise is absurd.
You really do like accusing people of saying things they haven’t actually said, it seems as if you have a huge chip on your shoulder!
How can you have a day off from unemployment? Where was that said? To have a day off this has to be a holiday or mean that you work part time. You cannot seriously suggest that you are working full time, claiming UC and still being expected to ‘work for free’ on your days off!
I’m getting a bit bored of your bullshit and ridiculous responses now. If you don’t want to provide evidence needed to prevent fraud then don’t claim, simple!

I've claimed UC for going on 2 years now and have never had one of these reviews.

Yes but they may have moved, so even if their rent is not being paid, it shows proof of that. Of course people update things, but not always.
Then they might want a more fuller picture of everything hence asking for all this paperwork.
I’m not saying I agree with it, but that is how they do things.

You will eventually. They are random, so people can be claiming for years without having one and others can have had 2-3 within the first couple of years.

But if a two bed for example in some parts of the country is 2k a month, which they are, or if lucky 1600-1800. And the LHA is now 1400 the tenant would still have to pay £600 a month out of their own money, if it’s 2k a month. That’s if they get all of the rent paid. So I don’t see how landlords will charge less completely. Especially not the ones who don’t accept benefits at all.

But that's usually only when someone is being investigated for fraud. When a person moves, they have to provide proof of their new address. So if the OP has recently moved, then fair enough, but if not, then whoever is conducting the review is doing it wrong.

Have definitely been expected to attend/do online training unpaid whilst working full time and claiming UC. Believe me or don't, it's still true.

And there's always been an air of UC claimants being looked down upon on here. Maybe not by you, but overall.

But I apologise if I seem spiky, it's been a really shit week tbh and UC asking for things they've seen was just the last straw and I grumbled about it on a relevant MN thread. That's all. I fully accept they need to see it. Its just the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.

I have heard of these reviews before, its for those who started claiming uc during lockdown as apparently they didnt do the checks correctly and caused loads of fraudulent claims. Havent heard of any taking place in the past few years though! Strange.

Boring. But I suppose it would put a lot of parasites out of business.

Maybe review your writing style then, because you're not very clear about what you mean.

That was just the op's attempt to rile. She doesn't really think the government should stop paying housing related benefits. She'd lose all her benefits income!

I have, I've seen quite a few. And one thing they seem to have in common is that they're aimed at people who don't have traditionally UK surnames. But of course the DWP would never profile like that, right?

And they wonder why people go on PIP.

The beggars being those who swan off with all the profits while the state props up their wages bill. Who the hell do you think you are, calling this person a beggar? Wages should be enough for a functional life.

They can be forged more easily.

I had to do this two yrs ago photos at the front door, open with me inside showing the street outside not actually that easy trying to a selfie that fitted the brief. They wanted bank statements and kids birth certificates as well. Provided it all and had no further requests