To consider Mounjaro to lose a stone

[Piccalino3]

Before we get started, I appreciate that I may not even be able to find anywhere to prescribe it…..

For context my BMI is 23, but I am a stone heavier in the last 6 months and just feel so shit. I can’t stop eating absolute rubbish all the time due to stress.

I have successfully dieted in the past and lost weight, but peri, going through a very brutal divorce from a horrible man and all the uncertainty it brings, solo parenting 3 young kids (2 with SEN who are in crisis) and trying to work full time just means I have no capacity at all. I never get a moment to myself and am just utterly mentally and physically exhausted. I have the kids 95% of the time as their Dad refuses to see them apart from every other weekend.

I want to feel good again, in my clothes, I want to stop
annoying myself with terrible stress related food choices. My cholesterol is high and this is not helping.

Any words of wisdom? Not even sure I would find anywhere that would prescribe it, I’d much rather rather just lose the weight but just can’t right now.

Words of wisdom please anyone?

And before anyone gives me a kicking for being so stupid, some helpful comments to give me some motivation or something would also be very much appreciated. I’m in a really hard phase of life atm so will take anything I can get!

You won’t be able to get it at that BMI

Unless you go down dodgy routes there is no way you will get prescribed it, no may about it. And then, if you get it illegally how do you even know what you are getting is legitimate. Honestly, just forget about mountjaro, you need to get your head in the game and focus on your diet. The jab is not a quick or easy fix, there is nothing in the jab itself that makes you lose weight, it is purely down to diet and exercise.

I am with Team RH, they have a great app, give brilliant advise and it's 7.99 a month. I get his way isn't for everyone but it is an effective programme, with qualified coaches and it's all about weight loss in a healthy way. would you consider something like that? Honestly MJ is not for people who have a stone to lose, it really isn't the way forward for you.

I’m not sure on the MJ. But I am doing a calorie defect to loose approximately a stone. If you want someone to join you for accountability on here I’m in 😊

You’d only be able to get it fraudulently or from some dodgy black market source. Or pay an arm and leg from a private clinic who will let you “micro dose” for a fee.

You’re not overweight, certainly not obese. Your issues are being caused by situational stuff that an obesity prescription medication won’t help with.

Its very tempting isn't it? I have been tempted myself. Then I remember that these drugs were developed and tested on diabetics, not on people with nornally functioning endocrine systems and insulin receptors, and I realise how foolish it is to mess around with your endocrine system, particularly if you have diabetic primary relatives as I do.

Obviously if you are morbidly obese, the benefits of slimming down will greatly outweigh the risks of messing with it and you probably have early onset type 2 diabetes anyway. For people that are not morbidly obese and dont yet have type 2 diabetes, I can't make that equation work in favour of injecting something that dramatically interferes with normal signalling and functioning in the body.

I do think we will probably see a rise in early onset diabetes and eating disorders in the next few years linked to recreational use of these drugs. There's no such thing as a free lunch, unfortunately.

You aren't overweight, so of course you wouldn't be and shouldn't be prescribed WLI.

Even if you could, it's not a fix for all the stress in your life. Things sound really difficult for you. Losing a stone won't make you feel better, but perhaps there are other areas of your life you can get support with, whether that's practical support so you aren't so exhausted, or therapy for support with managing stress

As it’s a prescribed medication that has a criteria to meet, you don’t meet it and it would be unwise, unsafe and not suitable for you to use it to loose 1 stone at your weight.

its a serious medication with potentially strong side effects.

really understand your challenges. Could you consider movement more/walk/yoga/chill something just for you. Is there other support for send parents at school or LA for you?

Try HRT first, if perimenopause is the primary cause of the weight gain you need to fix that before considering fighting against it with mounjaro.

Also, you don't meet the current prescribing guidelines for mounjaro. This may change in the future, but the evidence base and risk/ benefit analysis does not support mounjaro for starting bmi less than 27/30

I know I probably won’t be able to get it, not sure why I posted but just desperate to feel better.

I just don’t have the capacity to calorie count or give much thought to it at all. My life is a disaster atm, my ex is trying to punish me and I can barely cope with my kids and work. I have no time to cook for myself, I get back from work at 7pm and then have to start on putting the kids to bed which takes 2.5 hours, so that I can get on with household chores and more work. My clothes being tight and feeling crap is just topping it all off…. I just don’t know how to move forward to get back to me again.

There is so little support for SEN parents, and it all takes time to engage with. I’ve got a family support worker etc. am on HRT, I have absolutely no time for a walk (apart from going to work) or exercise. I just feel so sad.

Medicine is all about risk vs benefit. The reason people take the risk is because it outweighs the risk of being morbidly obese. You are not so don't have that risk.

I thought you had to be significantly overweight for it?

You would be very unreasonable to consider MJ at that BMI. If you are worried about emotional eating then you might want to look at Slimpod. I’ve found it very helpful for building new healthy habits that are sustainable over time. You listen to a short recording that targets your unconscious mind. It sounds weird but I’m 24 lb down and much much fitter now.

I did it for 1.5 stones.

I suppose maybe a better question might be: how do you lose weight when you have absolutely no mental/physical capacity in your life? I really don’t have time to calorie count, listen to recordings etc. every waking minute of my time is taken by work/parenting an I don’t sleep enough, which also isn’t helping.

@PrincessHoneysucklehow did it work for you? What about when you came off of it? Just out of interest

Meh, I was about the same. BMI of 24/25 but only going one way, and way way over for my normal weight pre-peri. I put on about 1.5/2 stone in a short space of time with high-ish cholesterol and high-ish blood pressure, and lots of indicators of inflammation (aches and pains, plantar fasciitis etc). Like you OP, too many other things going on to get my head into dieting and Pilates and meditation and all the things we're told to do to reduce stress, lose weight, tone up etc. Have gone private, been a little flexible with the truth, and have stuck to the lowest dose. Happily 1 stone/1.5 stone down, inflammation gone within weeks so not related to weight loss as such, and feel like a new person. Now happily tackling the other things, without that constant voice in my head hating myself for having no willpower and not being on top of it all...

You still have to calorie count on the injections!! I haven’t been and have put on 4kg in the last 2 months!!

Mounjaro is best used as an ajunct to a healthy lifestyle, eg healthy diet and moderate exercise.

If you just seek out the appetite supression and big calorie deficit it can leave you with no energy, which isn't necessarily what you need right now.

You listen to the recording as you go to bed. It actually helps you go to sleep, I normally hear about a minute before I’m zonked out.

It might not be the solution for you, fair enough - but it takes about 2 minutes a day. And I’d rather do that than injections, personally. YMMV of course….

@curiousfatthank you for posting. I think sometimes people just don’t get it when you say you have no capacity at all. I’ve lost 2.5 stone years ago after babies and was good at it even then, but now it’s all just too much.

I really don’t want to take it, I feel bad about myself enough. I’m shit at work, a shit parent, worried about whether I can keep my house and my kids with a decent life and now I’m getting fat too.

How was it when you came off it may I ask?

I used to do Zoe before my life imploded and had a really healthy lifestyle, then a series of events plunged me and my kids into chaos and now I barely function. I want to get back to healthy eating, I know how to do it, I just can’t seem to control myself in the last 6 months.

I would be careful OP. You're not going to get it off a legit provider at 23 BMI and your health is too important to piss about with.

Solidarity though. I've got one SEN too and it's just bloody hard sometimes.

You could spend the money you’d spend on Mounjaro on decent quality frozen ready meals (eg Cook Food or similar) so that you can have easy meals for you of an evening with no cooking. You could also buy a walking pad or treadmill to use at home as and when you have half an hour.

If you don’t have the head space for any of that then do you have the headspace for acquiring Mounjaro, managing it sensibly and dealing with any side effects?

I will have a look, thanks for the suggestion