to absolutely hate the how people are speaking English!

[exse24Londoner]

I really hate how we have "suddenly" starting gifting presents rather than giving them as we did only a couple of years ago. Vacations - when did we start having vacations instead of holidays?????? The other day I saw an advert for pants - turned out to be trousers. Apparently when I speak to someone it is now liaising & if I call or text, I am reaching out..... the other day someone was talking about the front end, or as I prefer to call it - the beginning!!🙄

Dont get me wrong, I love the evolution of language & that generations make it their own but this isn't that this is not teenagers or cultures developing own language its...... weird management/pop psychology speak

is it just me??

Agree 100%
And the way US political talking points are copied and pasted over here when often the traditional political fault lines are different, the political issues are different etc. I follow US politics, but increasingly some UK political commentators seem more embedded in American Political drama than UK politics and just carry over the same grievances.

E.g. "bathrooms used to be segregated by race" not in the UK we didn't. There was racism, but it was different. Also, we don't put baths in public toilets.
"DEI and affirmative action woke blah blah". The UK has EDI. Maybe that's bad too. But the laws on what you can do in terms of positive discrimination are completely different yet some people are angry at American things for happening in the UK when they aren't happening in the UK and aren't legal here

Some people here say pants instead of trousers. I think it’s a working class term. I’m not from here so I say trousers.

Homicide is an unlawful death. It covers manslaughter and murder and is used legally in the Uk

Gifting/gifted and overuse of myself are Mrs Bucket affectations. Trying too hard and failing

yes - get a life

DH is from Manchester. He wears pants rather than trousers

Culpable homicide is and always has been roughly, although not exactly, the Scots Law equivalent of English Law crime of manslaughter.

I'm late to this party but I want to add " can I get (something)". I realise I'm an old fart but I hate, hate, hate this way to ask for something.

Agreed, I grew up in Lancs in the 90's and it was always pants or kecks. Pantaloons was used in English a long time ago derived from Italian pantolone so I contest the pants thing.

Agree with the rest of your list though!

It seems that adults who've said "pissed off", "got" and "holiday" all their lives, are suddenly saying "pissed", "gotten" and "vacation".

Who are these adults who say this? I don;t know any! Except for gotten, but a lot of people in Scotland have used that word as long as I can remember (in my 40s)

No they don't. But it is sufficiently common that if you want to refer to sex, then you need to use male/female.

It's just as common in the private sector as the public sector I think.

@persephonia , yes I've seen lots of Americans saying positive discrimination is normal in the UK. I believe employment laws make it difficult to remove people within certain protected.characteristics but I don't think women, people of colour etc are routinely appointed to jobs purely because of what's between their legs or their skin colour. happy to be corrected if I've missed it though.

Sorry if off-tangent.

The Homocide Act 1957. Applies to England, Wales and Northern Ireland but not Scotland.

My latest pet peeve is 'shop' as an imperative. Shop our new range! I don't know where it came from but I'm suddenly seeing it everywhere online and it looks very wrong to me.

I love mad Trinny but she does this.

I hate "recommend me a.." frequently seen on Style and Beauty forum

It really grates. It should be "recommend a.... to me" or "recommend a.... for me" or just "recommend a..."

Yes but it wasn't in common use on Crime Watch in the 90s so it is disingenuous to suggest it is not an Americanism.

Yes and 'law enforcement' when in most cases what is meant is the police. And testimony. We give evidence in court, not testimony.

It’s the awful accents I hate. Even some of my family speak line they’ve got a bunch of marbles in their mouths (lazy, urban, patois).

Also hate the increasing use of profanities, publicly and privately.

Some Americanisms are awful but some I like, can be creative “I’m here for it” 😂 Or the 1970’s “I hear ya!”. Currently my fave is “thirst trap” - a woman who dresses sexually provocatively for attention.

oh I quite like "frosts my underwear"

Passed away instead of died…when I see it written as “past away” I want to pull my hair out !

Yes, there are protected characteristics. They mostly make it harder to fire someone for, eg being pregnant. It's harder to prove why someone didn't employ you so it's harder to prove discrimination. But also fire at will isn't a thing here for anyone. The UK has more employment rights overall than the US.

Usually, if you have a particular imbalance in a company eg more males than female, you can discriminate between two equal candidates on the basis of their sex. But you can't hire a less qualified man/woman over a better qualified woman/man just because. That would actually be a breach of the laws around protected characteristics (although again, in theory someone could discriminate and lie).

I know someone who worked in the UK for an American company and they at times had to explain that they couldn't do X or Y because its not allowed in the UK. I think some Americans think US employment law is the law everywhere. Which is more excusable than British people getting angry at laws on "affirmative action" when that isn't a law here and would in fact be illegal under UK law.

Oh, I think companies can also say they "encourage applications" from less represented groups. That's good to know because it suggest that if you are neck and neck with another candidate you might get preference as described above. It doesn't mean that you will get appointed to the job because of skin colour/sex other than that.

but I do "eat my tea" Tonight for tea I have got sausages and chips. On sunday its dinner or lunch and on any day, if I eat it later its supper.

I wish people would stop spamming the thread with those awful gifs. It's so jarring and intrusive in a text based discussion. I used to be able to block and delete them but the software changed and now I can't.

Yes was going to say my friends from Liverpool area have always called trousers pants.